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Old 01.03.2011, 19:02
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Questions about the UK & finding work without formal education.

Probably not the forum to ask this. But you guys are my friends & there are some of you from the UK or who lived there. I don't want to go on a UK expat forum so I hope you don't mind having a general OT conversation about life in the UK for a "repat".

Over the weekend we met this lovely couple who were traveling in S.America. They live in the US but the wife is from the UK.

She has lived in the US for 20 years but was saying how much she wanted to "move home" (back to the UK) but that it would be impossible for her to find a job because she has "no formal education".

I have to say I was quite surprised by this. Because she is not "starting out". She has 15 years experience working for the same company in retail and is now the "General Manager" (don't know what that means in retail) for a home goods store.

I can't imagine she couldn't find an appropriate job "back home". Wouldn't the work experience at this point be more important? Would they still expect she had some sort of degree?

It's strange to think one couldn't ever "go home". They already left. It was a passing meeting so this conversation is just theoretical. Something for a Tuesday evening. I was just curious about this situation.
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Old 01.03.2011, 19:18
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Re: Questions about the UK & finding work without formal education.

I believe the work experience would be sufficient to find a job in the UK or any other part of Europe.
There is reality, and how she perceives it.
That may be the essential question.. si ?
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Re: Questions about the UK & finding work without formal education.

Well things are tough at the mo in the UK - but with the right experience (as she seems to have) I see absolutely why she shouldn't succeed. The UK is still a country where you CAN succeed without formal qualifications if you have the right attributes and attitude, and even more so with relevant experience.
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Old 01.03.2011, 19:35
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Re: Questions about the UK & finding work without formal education.

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I believe the work experience would be sufficient to find a job in the UK or any other part of Europe.
There is reality, and how she perceives it.
That may be the essential question.. si ?
Si, mi amor! This is exactly what I thought.

Odile, I don't think it's about them moving "now". I think like Sky says, it's her perception. Interesting though.

Would love to hear more thoughts.
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Old 01.03.2011, 19:46
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Re: Questions about the UK & finding work without formal education.

A lot depends on where in the UK you live.
I was up in the North East recently and was really surprised to see so many shops advertising for staff .

Some employers want new staff to have experience

Some employers want new staff who are young, with no experience so they can pay them a minimum wage.

In some areas jobs are so few and far between - sadly,it does not matter if you have qualifications or not......
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Re: Questions about the UK & finding work without formal education.

In Switzerland you need to do an apprenticeship for absolutely anything including sales assistant, waiter, etc. In France, qualifications have much more weight than experience or skills- which is why many young French go to work in the UK, in all kind of work. A French teacher is promoted by exams - a UK teacher is promoted on the ability to teach and results, for instance.
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