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why didn't she report them to the police? knocking down and pushing around maybe not, but urinating on the kid is definitely crossing the line. also if you don't want to report them to the police, where's the husband to go around to their fathers and demand an apology or face some street justice of their own?
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Sometimes it will make things worse, and your only option is to endure, but the attitude of "never tell, don't respond" only perpetuates the problem . The power that bullies have often lies in secrecy. The victim is too scared and shamed to tell. There are many ways to deal with bullying - the effectiveness of each depends on the situation. Keeping it quiet, not responding, hoping it goes away, never works.

My kids spent 5 years in the schools of Pratteln. Not the nicest place to live. The schools were rough. They all experienced some bullying, but we dealt with it, as a family, in various ways, and the bullying stopped.

I recall one of my friends was brought up in innercity Glasgow. He was a very bright kid, so attracted the bullying types. After he'd pulled one bully through a glass door , the bullying stopped. They both needed stitches, and my friend was suspended for a week.

Btw - one incident of violence/assault/teasing is not bullying.
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Old 16.03.2011, 08:56
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Another taint on this subject ...people let themselves be bullied, there are plenty of good Karate dojos in Switzerland , we put our kids at ages 5 and 7 into Karate it keeps them fit and teaches them self defense.

Even in Swiss schools there is a degree of bullying, but the bullies do back down after they recieve a swift round-house ...worked for my son anyway.
I disagree and find it quite insulting to hear that you think people let themselves be bullied. I was subject to incredibly cruel bullying at my secondary school which was physical and mental (I think the mental torture was the worst). I did karate from a young age and was a black belt shortly before leaving school. I also trained in kickboxing.

None of this training helped me when I was set upon by 30 teenagers both male and female on a daily basis at every break time and when school finished and it got to the point where my only safe haven was in the library or locked in the toilets (I had to rotate which loo's I was in to increase the chances of not being found). It ended up that the whole of my year were bullying me and nobody wanted to be my friend for fear of having the same treatment. I was essentially alone from 11 years old to 18.

My younger sister joined my school 3 years after me and I sent her with strict instructions that she was not to admit any relationship with me and to pretend she did not know me even if she saw bad things happening to me. Sadly the bullies did find out that she was my sister and took great delight in telling me what they were going to do to her at lunchtime. I immediately went into defence mode and had possibly the worst fight of my life against these evil sh*ts. Police involved, suspension averted and what can only be described as a life of hell from that moment on until I moved away from the area in my early twenties.

I did not ask to be bullied and stuck up to them from day one to no avail. I told teachers, parents and the police but nothing was done to help me. What more could I have done and in what way did I ask to be bullied? I did not have any major disfigurement, was slim and relatively attractive (how I wish I had appreciated my figure and looks at the time ), studied hard but also played hard, was a keen sportsgirl and came from a loving and secure family.
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What amazes me that there was a case of systematic assault - which is a criminal offence - and nothing was done.

Hey - you survived. Well done!
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Re: Bullying in School

This issue has raised its head at home for us (although indirectly). One of my daughter's classmates is bullied by the other boys. He's a nice kid, but just a bit eccentric and tad on the tubby side. He's teased quite badly, especially by one kid I know was the subject of bullying himself not so long ago. It hasn't got as far as physical violence yet, but he gets his homework screwed up and is taunted pretty badly. However, this one little shite chap has taken it upon himself to copy the class alpha male (and on/off friend of my daughter's), probably to protect himself and therefore does all the dirty work. I told my daughter that I hope she never participated, which was greeted with a denial and an embarrased smile. I asked if she ever stood up for the victim and she was horrified, claiming they would just pick on her instead. I made it clear in no uncertain terms I would be really angry if I found out that she ever bullied anyone. I hope the message got across.
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Kids being teased/bullied and/or not fitting in due to their religion is sad, but it's avoidable as it's a consequence of them being subjected to it in the first place by their thoughtless parents. Bullying is the least of the kids problems.
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Old 16.03.2011, 09:43
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Kids being teased/bullied and/or not fitting in due to their religion is sad, but it's avoidable as it's a consequence of them being subjected to it in the first place by their thoughtless parents. Bullying is the least of the kids problems.
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Something to consider. I find it interesting how we try to distance ourselves from the bullies, the greedy, the corrupt or what ever. We make it objective. They are human just like you and me. They may even be in our families.

We need to try to understand why there are bullies. Often when we can understand we can let go of our own resentment and anger.

There will always be bullies, greedy and corrupt people. But what I find most disturbing is the amount of people who are bullies, greedy and corrupt in our modern plentiful society. People who are bullies, who have the need to harass others obviously do not feel well about themselves. If you are the victim of greed, corruption and bullying you can find relief by knowing that these people are truly not happy people. Sure they may give you the image that they are but this covers up an emptiness.

It takes strength and self confidence to be able to give some one a helping hand or a kind word or just a smile. If you can not then you are fearful. we need to understand that those who treat others who are different inappropriately that it comes from fear.

We can not directly by force change these people. We need to learn to set our own boundaries and make sure that we treat others with respect. We need to stop being the victims and start treating others in our own lives better.
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Sure I am serious. Systematically lying to young kids is good? Shameful.
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There is only so much bullying a kid can take before he or she will snap..

Look at this video of what happend in Australia, the bully got his wel deserved punishment .

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There is only so much bullying a kid can take before he or she will snap..

Look at this video of what happend in Australia, the bully got his wel deserved punishment .

Yeah this was posted previously. IMO schools are incredibly limp wristed regarding these sorts of things. If I ran that school, the following day that kid would be the only student left. "Temporarily suspended" my ass
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There is only so much bullying a kid can take before he or she will snap..

Look at this video of what happend in Australia, the bully got his wel deserved punishment .
I think that's the blocked Youtube vid that others tried to post earlier. The non-anonymized version was taken down. Fair do's to the bullying victim. I'd have laid into the little shit whilst he was down, just for good measure.

(BTW, I think the location reporter is bloody hot , but that's beside the point.)
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Old 16.03.2011, 10:55
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Re: Bullying in School

Kids or even adults being bullied will snap sooner or later.

Bully got lucky he didn't get smacked head first against the bench behind him.

Lets hope he learned his lesson.. not that im saying what the big kid did was righ but after taking several punches in the face, i would have done the same.
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. The non-anonymized version was taken down

Please see here for the raw footage..
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Please see here for the raw footage..

I saw it on YouTube before it was removed. I showed my kids, which sparked the whole bullying conversation at home.
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Sure I am serious. Systematically lying to young kids is good? Shameful.
Bloody atheists bringing religion into every subject. Idiotic.

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This issue has raised its head at home for us (although indirectly). One of my daughter's classmates is bullied by the other boys. He's a nice kid, but just a bit eccentric and tad on the tubby side. He's teased quite badly, especially by one kid I know was the subject of bullying himself not so long ago. It hasn't got as far as physical violence yet, but he gets his homework screwed up and is taunted pretty badly. However, this one little shite chap has taken it upon himself to copy the class alpha male (and on/off friend of my daughter's), probably to protect himself and therefore does all the dirty work. I told my daughter that I hope she never participated, which was greeted with a denial and an embarrased smile. I asked if she ever stood up for the victim and she was horrified, claiming they would just pick on her instead...
Similar situation a few years ago in my son's school. My son deliberately befriended the victim, even though he didn't like him much. At the time, he (my son) was the smallest, weediest lad in his class, and the bully was the biggest. One time when the victim was being hassled, my son pushed the bully away, and said "Why don't you pick on someone your own size". The bully was so shocked and shamed - as this happened in front of the whole class - that he just mumbled something and wandered off. The harassment eased off after that, and the "whole class" mobbing thing was stopped in its tracks.

The bully had himself been bullied earlier in his school career.
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Re: Bullying in School

Scary to see with what little effort the big guy just picks up the skinny one and smacks him against the ground.

I can't find any report to see did the kid brake his leg or something.

Is that a teacher walking in on them ?
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Is that a teacher walking in on them ?
No, it's an older girl I think.
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According to the Australian Telegraph nothing more serious than cuts and bruises.

The police should prosecute the younger chap for assault.
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And insight to a bullies mind..

Followed by some righteous a$$whooping

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Re: Bullying in School

Big kid definitely saw way too much WWF Wrestling - (World Wrestling Federation)
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