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Old 16.03.2011, 12:12
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So true. I've always been surprised by the randomness of it, there's never really a set pattern. When I got bullied younger, it often didn't make sense because there were other kids who were shorter, fatter, nerdier, more foreign, etc. than me who didn't have any problems. It's almost as if sometimes a bully imprints on you, like a strange form of unexplainable attraction. Having a reason just makes it easier.
I agree completely with the randomness comment. I have spent years trying to figure out what went wrong for me and my honest conclusion is I blame Mickey Mouse.

Honestly, all was hunky dorey until my parents took me and my sister on a surprise trip to Disneyland Florida (my Dad had found out he was being made redundant so used his redundancy cash to take us on our dream holiday). I left a popular kid and came back to a strange and hostile environment. I wish I'd kept all my Disney lollipops and sweeties to myself looking back

That is the turning point in my memory and from that day on the bullying just escalated from there. How kids can warrant a seven year abuse campaign for a two week holiday I have no idea
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Old 16.03.2011, 12:17
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"Hey, man, there's Joe - he thinks he's descended from a monkey!".

What now?
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What now?
He must have met you at the fleamarket dragging your knuckles
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He must have met you at the fleamarket dragging your knuckles
Roflol Classic

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Old 16.03.2011, 12:21
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roflol classic

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Old 16.03.2011, 12:24
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Re: Bullying in School

i'm being bullied

But to stay on topic, surely everyone one of us has been bullied or was the bully back in the days?

I got bullied loads, sadly enough i never done what the big kid did..
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Old 16.03.2011, 12:36
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I would put money on that it wasnt the first day that he had done that, and the kid was restrained in my view.
agree the big kid was restrained. he could have easily delivered a swift kick to the head when the runt was down.
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Old 16.03.2011, 12:42
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Re: Bullying in School

I month ago I found my worst bully on FB. I sended her a message saying something similar to this:

''Hey, if it isn't ''girl's name''. I hope you have learned to run faster with the passing years... ''

She answered me back. She was very defensive at the beginning, saying that I should get over it by now. I told her that I actually was over it otherwise I wouldn't send her a message.

She apologised for her very bad behavior toward me during all those years. She told me she was just having a very hard time younger and I was her easy target because she was jealous of me. She also told me that I have done nothing to deserve it. It was all her... She was happy to hear from me and she was proud to be back on her feet (the school kicked her out after she physically attacked me, and she went throught hard time with violence, drugs, etc).

All those years I suffered because of her and those others girls who follow her like sad sheeps were not because of ME.

Kids can be crual out of jealousy and human being is a sheep in society. People are scared to speak out and take the side of the weak. Denying the problem doesn't do any good to any of us as kids and adults.

And when you complain to someone and the answer is: Kids are just being kids or boys are just being boys, don't stop there, keep pushing and speaking out loud to make it stop.

I got my bully even here on the forum. It was weeks before someone took care of it. No one was there to speak up and no one took it seriously. Some were even supporting the behavior.

So bullying can be at every age and most don't even see it, or close their eyes to it.
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Old 16.03.2011, 12:43
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agree the big kid was restrained. he could have easily delivered a swift kick to the head when the runt was down.
I think the big kid did well. The humiliation is more than sufficient to haunt that scrawny arse for life. He can kiss bye-bye to any street cred after this
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Old 16.03.2011, 12:50
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I agree completely with the randomness comment. I have spent years trying to figure out what went wrong for me and my honest conclusion is I blame Mickey Mouse.

Honestly, all was hunky dorey until my parents took me and my sister on a surprise trip to Disneyland Florida (my Dad had found out he was being made redundant so used his redundancy cash to take us on our dream holiday).
You got to go to Disneyland for two weeks?!?! Give me your lunch money!
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Old 16.03.2011, 13:23
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You got to go to Disneyland for two weeks?!?! Give me your lunch money!
DisneyWORLD... and I didn't even know there were 2 weeks worth of doable stuff in those palces unless you were on pot or something...
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Old 16.03.2011, 13:44
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I would put money on that it wasnt the first day that he had done that, and the kid was restrained in my view.
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I think the big kid did well. The humiliation is more than sufficient to haunt that scrawny arse for life. He can kiss bye-bye to any street cred after this
I agree.

By not participating in the fight whatsoever at the start, even allowing the skinny whimp to punch him in the head a couple of times..... this was clearly not the first time he has taken crap from these midgets.... especially if one was foolish enough to film it.

The School system has let this Big kid down, nobody was there to help him in the past, and he had his back against the wall (litterally).

If he wasn't going to defend himself then..... when was he supposed to?

I reckon the Big Kid will return to school as a "Rock Star" !!!


....... I especially love the "Limp Scene" closing the film......ha ha, not so cool now huh?

Kudos to the Big Man. (clearly a gentle giant)

Enough is Enough
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Old 16.03.2011, 14:01
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Hi all

I read the following statement from tooki and now have some questions.



Was it a problem at your school? How was your school like (big/small, in town/countryside, public/private etc). What was the reason to tease a kid? (their appeareance / no money / physical hanidcaps / speech disorders)
What do you think of swiss schools? (Do you have own experience, or kids, whats the diffrence to other schools).

To address the question of the OP:

Actually no, Bullying wasn't a big thing at my school for one main reason:

"Picking a fight with someone who doesn't want to fight or deserve a bashing just wasn't cool...... at all"

The school I went to had 25 Rugby Union teams (yep, just one school), and the occasional "Dungeon and Dragons" player in the Library.

We had our fair share of playground stinks but nothing that wasn't warranted.
(all boys school)

It was more a case of "Social adjustment" than Bullying.

As I recall, nobody was unfairly picked on.


Anyone who seemed to fit the "Bully" profile was the sort of kid who was too stupid to hang out with the nerds, and not coordinated enough to play sport.
(appologies to any 'tight head props' reading this)
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Old 16.03.2011, 14:14
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I think he was referring to this sad story, with such compassion.



I suggested that his response was idiotic, and so he now accuses me specificially, and religious people in general, of being child abusers. It must be awfully dark where he keeps his head.
Statement of relevance: (1) religion = divisive = proxy for bullying at least as powerful as race. (2) post was in reference to something previously posted and implicitly accepted. I agree that this position is tenuous, but surely it passes some minimal threshold.

Being picked on or bullied has a lot to do with "being different," which is why it seems natural to associate "bullying" with "not fitting in," etc, and it's what the poster you reference was doing. She specifically cites it as a factor in "not fitting in."

Whether or not you believe in gods, there's no denying the fact that the religions are mostly inconsistent with each other, to at least some extent, and often significantly, and bullies pick on people who are different.

Look at how the Americans are persecuting Muslims right now. Or did you miss that episode of Colbert?

Solution: convert everyone to x religion, or ban religion. easy mode. Don't you see? Then there won't be any differences amongst people.
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Old 16.03.2011, 14:28
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Sadly I remember quite clearly that kids of parents from sects which were very easy to 'spot' due to having to wear special hairstyles (very long plats) or clothing (scarves, long skirts and long socks, for instance) had to go knocking on doors to try and convert, missed RE, sexual ed, some sports, etc, on the parents insistence - WERE indeed picked on very hard. One of my friends was told by her parents it was a test of her faith, and her duty to God to put up with constant teasing (she was about 6 at the time). Secterianism is still very alive in NI and of course parts of Scotland - and it certainly was when I was a kid in the 50s in CH. I lived in a Protestant area where Catholic kids were bullied often.
Exactly. Or the opposite. I went to a catholic school which wasted a couple hours a week on "religious education." The minority (about 20%) of protestant kids were separated and basically told to get lost for the period, which not only created division but also made the protestant kids targets for bullying (i was catholic, luckily).

You can say the protestant parents should have been smarter and not sent them to a catholic school, but why stop there? Just drop the faith. Isn't there enough real stuff to argue about, like the fact that 1% of the world owns almost all of the world's resources, and the even more worrying fact that scripted tv is losing the battle against banal reality programming. Isn't the way forward to focus on the important things in life?
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And I'm sure some atheist kids, or kids of atheists get bullied in more religious societies. "Hey, man, there's Joe - he thinks he's descended from a monkey!".
Well, yes. That was my point. I'm glad we agree. That wouldn't be a nice thing for kids to experience. In the US there's a huge social stigma attached to being rational.

For the obtuse, I wasn't saying he or she literally abuses his or her child(ren). It's abuse, as a metaphor, insofar as it's a confusing and depressing paradigm to grow up under (fear eternal damnation, patriarchy, thought crime, to name just a few - imagine being afraid to even think of something because some god is always listening, and god help you if you're thinking of anything culturally taboo at the time).

And of course, it contributes to the whole bullying problem, significantly, maybe not on youtube videos or on popular US made teen dramas, but in real life it's surely one of the major catalysts. <relevance tag>.
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Or did you miss that episode of Colbert?
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popular US made teen dramas
You know telly isn't real, I hope?
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Oh, it seems I was really lucky with my nice classmates then. I didn't know that it's that a big problem.
Same here.

I only remember one case of a bully with followers at my school, but he got permanently removed within one semester, and the parents of those kids got into some trouble as the police and psychological school services got involved by the teachers.


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None of this training helped me when I was set upon by 30 teenagers both male and female on a daily basis at every break time and when school finished and it got to the point where my only safe haven was in the library or locked in the toilets (I had to rotate which loo's I was in to increase the chances of not being found). It ended up that the whole of my year were bullying me and nobody wanted to be my friend for fear of having the same treatment. I was essentially alone from 11 years old to 18.
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I told teachers, parents and the police but nothing was done to help me.
I am speechless to read that, mimi1981.


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Doesn't always work. Back in my schooldays in the UK in the 1980s I was bullied quite a bit by a certain group of individuals. I complained to teachers, to my parents, to the headmaster etc, but not much happened as the school decided it wasn't really their problem. [...] The result was that the school get very angry and this combined with my refusal to apologise ultimately led to me being expelled.
Unbelivable.
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I guess, judging by your response, you probably abuse your child(ren). Please stop.
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...For the obtuse, I wasn't saying he or she literally abuses his or her child(ren). It's abuse, as a metaphor,...
I love the way that you label others as obtuse for taking the obvious (non-obtuse) meaning from what your wrote.

You're in a hole. Probably best to stop digging.
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