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16.03.2011, 16:47
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Hi
Has anyone tried interconnecting home computers and printers through their main power rather than wifi or ethernet over twisted pair?.
I cannot drill a hole through a wall which is unintentionally shielded (no wifi), but I have power sockets at either side.
I am interested to know if there are issues with the power providers. In the UK the electricity suppliers use their cables for communications and noise from end consumers irritates them.
The other thing I am unaware of is whether automatic electricity meters get upset with the db noise from the home net. All feedback really appreciated.
Toby
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16.03.2011, 16:48
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| | Re: Ethernet/network Over Mains Power | Quote: | |  | | | Hi
Has anyone tried interconnecting home computers and printers through their main power rather than wifi or ethernet over twisted pair?.
I cannot drill a hole through a wall which is unintentionally shielded (no wifi), but I have power sockets at either side.
I am interested to know if there are issues with the power providers. In the UK the electricity suppliers use their cables for communications and noise from end consumers irritates them.
The other thing I am unaware of is whether automatic electricity meters get upset with the db noise from the home net. All feedback really appreciated.
Toby | | | | | You mean Powerline? yep..have it here and works like a charm.
Mediamarkt do a special offer on them for the moment, 39 Chf per pair.
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16.03.2011, 16:50
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Yes I have, using products from solwise.co.uk
Unfortunately I managed to break them when I tried to upgrade....!
PS: Looks like I am just up the road from you in Beatenberg.
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16.03.2011, 16:51
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Yup they work great but once you buy one manufacturer set its a bit odd trying to get others to eork, also dont use them on extensions either!
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16.03.2011, 16:53
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| | Re: Ethernet/network Over Mains Power | Quote: | |  | | | Hi
Has anyone tried interconnecting home computers and printers through their main power rather than wifi or ethernet over twisted pair?.
I cannot drill a hole through a wall which is unintentionally shielded (no wifi), but I have power sockets at either side.
I am interested to know if there are issues with the power providers. In the UK the electricity suppliers use their cables for communications and noise from end consumers irritates them.
The other thing I am unaware of is whether automatic electricity meters get upset with the db noise from the home net. All feedback really appreciated.
Toby | | | | | These are simple units, well suited for your requirements. There are many options available, some going up to 300Mbps.
Do not worry about the meters, these work on the draw of current , and this is not affected by socket routers. Billion seem to have the market edge at the moment and are getting good reviews. Netgear and D-Link coming up behind them. Try to get one with a pass-thru socket so you don't tie up the socket to the router or client NIC. Unless you are streaming video or have a very fast broadband, or regularly transferring large files (Home Server backups etc) a 100Mbit kit should suffice.
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16.03.2011, 16:54
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You can a set of 4 and 6 in one series.
They cost a bit more ( set of 4 was 124 chf i believe) but its worth it.
I went for Devolo, plug and play and secured.
Note, i am not affiliated to the Mediamarkt or Devolo
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16.03.2011, 17:06
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I use a set from D-Link rated at 200 Mbit/s to link the ground floor where the router is to my office on the 2nd floor.
It works well enough BUT I don't get anything like the 200 Mbit/s, more like 80 Mbit/s. Not to the outside world, I mean, but between two PC's on opposite sides of the link. Both links are plugged directly into the outlet socket in a house with modern-ish wiring.
Any idea what factors affect the achieved transfer speed?
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16.03.2011, 17:11
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| | Re: Ethernet/network Over Mains Power | Quote: | |  | | | I use a set from D-Link rated at 200 Mbit/s to link the ground floor where the router is to my office on the 2nd floor.
It works well enough BUT I don't get anything like the 200 Mbit/s, more like 80 Mbit/s. Not to the outside world, I mean, but between two PC's on opposite sides of the link. Both links are plugged directly into the outlet socket in a house with modern-ish wiring.
Any idea what factors affect the achieved transfer speed? | | | | | The brand funny enough.. i started off with Dlink's here, after setting them up i got a max of 80 - 100mb on my 200 Mb Powerline system.
same floor, just a few rooms away.
bought the Develo ones , (yes double the price but worth it) and no problem what so ever, in around the 180mb, as close as i will ever get.
Now i can stream movies to the livingroom without a problem, as with the D-links it would stop every so often.
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16.03.2011, 17:20
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| | Re: Ethernet/network Over Mains Power | Quote: | |  | | | The brand funny enough.. i started off with Dlink's here, after setting them up i got a max of 80 - 100mb on my 200 Mb Powerline system.
same floor, just a few rooms away.
bought the Develo ones , (yes double the price but worth it) and no problem what so ever, in around the 180mb, as close as i will ever get.
Now i can stream movies to the livingroom without a problem, as with the D-links it would stop every so often. | | | | | Perhaps the Develo had traffic shaping/QOS turned on by default and it was off on the D-Link ?
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16.03.2011, 17:22
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| | Re: Ethernet/network Over Mains Power
can you get these with 2 network ports on, so 1 plug can drive 2 devices (xbox and blueray player)
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16.03.2011, 17:23
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| | Re: Ethernet/network Over Mains Power | Quote: | |  | | | can you get these with 2 network ports on, so 1 plug can drive 2 devices (xbox and blueray player) | | | | | not sure, you can however hook a small router onto it, works fine.
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16.03.2011, 17:45
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Or just a hub even... A 5CHf 2nd router with a pair of 100Mbit ports would work too... A switch is maybe overkilll...
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16.03.2011, 17:55
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You mean if you just use the distribution ports on the old router? And not use the router's uplink port? That might work.
I did have an old router but the issue was that that the ports weren't gigabit and I wanted the devices in that room to communicate with each other at giga speed, but that's not a problem for xbox's, etc.
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16.03.2011, 18:00
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I am using Develo ( http://www.devolo.com/ ).
Running up two floors from the internet connection. I am very happy with it. Wifi was not working for me.
We have Cablecom 20 Mb/s coming in to the house. My computer:
It can vary from 18 Mb/s to 24 Mb/s.
Individual results will of course vary based on how the electrical cabling / power box is set up at your place.
I found the best prices via www.toppreise.ch http://www.toppreise.ch/index.php?se...lp=&hp=&manu=0
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16.03.2011, 18:45
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I have used Netgear Powerline... old models. used to be rated for 14Mbps. Worked fine for some time. But I am in an 80 year old building ..
Then I upgraded to wireless bridge. Works better for me. I also use it for streaming music and movies.
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16.03.2011, 19:54
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| | Re: Ethernet/network Over Mains Power | Quote: | |  | | | Any idea what factors affect the achieved transfer speed? | | | | | Length of cable and routing mostly. Also geometry.
Remember that just because two rooms are adjacent, you can't assume that the cable takes the shortest possible way. It may well be taking a long detour via your basement or something. It could be that a different socket in the same room offers a higher speed so it's worth experimenting.
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16.03.2011, 21:09
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I have never been able to get this system to work. It seems that the different floors are on different circuits.
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16.03.2011, 22:24
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Thanks, I'll stay with the same manufacturer and the tip about power pass through is sterling (gold).
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