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Old 30.08.2011, 22:43
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Re: Advice on buying (new) car: Golf R vs BMW 3 series vs Audi A5

Nice car, color looks very similar to my Mystic Blue. Congrats on the choice.

I have found that tramlining seems to be more a factor of the tread profile design than the width. Some tires are developed more with/for BMW, some more the direction of Audi/MB and the BMW suspension can be pretty choosy as to what it likes.

As for rim cracking, that's new to me. Main thing is that the rims and tires are light, reducing unsprung weight, makes quite a difference. 18", from a driving point of view, is also better than 19".
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Old 31.08.2011, 08:36
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Nice car, color looks very similar to my Mystic Blue. Congrats on the choice.

I have found that tramlining seems to be more a factor of the tread profile design than the width. Some tires are developed more with/for BMW, some more the direction of Audi/MB and the BMW suspension can be pretty choosy as to what it likes.

As for rim cracking, that's new to me. Main thing is that the rims and tires are light, reducing unsprung weight, makes quite a difference. 18", from a driving point of view, is also better than 19".
Different tyres tramline more than others - but generally the BMW setup of narrower fronts will encourage tramlining. The 530xd (on 245 all round) doesn't tramline - the Alpina (235f/265r) does - badly!!

The rim cracking is a known problem with the 225M style wheel - there are plenty of threads on other forums about it. Not all wheels are affected - and BMW replaced a lot under warranty.

Runflats kill unsprung weight - so the 18/19 argument becomes moot. 19" wheels on non-runflats rides better than 18" with runflats - it is all in the sidewall! There is no rule to which wheel size works better. Certainly the E46 M3 was improved by choosing 18" wheels - the steering gained a great deal of clarity. However the CSL worked superbly on 19" wheels thanks to the slightly altered suspension geometry.

Anyway, back to the thread, the 335i is a cracking car - great engine - good useable performance and good economy. A well balanced car. And Akrapovic do an exhaust for it - just expect to pay 6-7k for the full titanium setup!
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Old 31.08.2011, 09:12
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Re: Advice on buying (new) car: Golf R vs BMW 3 series vs Audi A5

Thanks for the tip on the 225M cracking, good to know. Apparently they were withdrawn from the UK market, dunno about here or elsewhere.

My main experience is with my E46 M3, running BBS RS-GTs, 235/265-18" Goodyear F1 Asymmetrics. Changed the suspension to KW v3 all around. No tramlining with outstanding handling, and yeah, competent alignment and inflation are very important as well.

I started off with 19s and OEM rims, heavy and hard with oversteer. Went through different tires, even the earlier F1s and none worked out like the current set up. Both BMW M in Garching and Dunlop/Goodyear said "Yeah, it's like that."

I've driven the 335i, great car, however the first question before any modifications is what is the car to be used for principally, and what points are most important for the owner, which probably means living with it as it is for a month or so and see what issues evolve, if any.
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I've driven the 335i, great car, however the first question before any modifications is what is the car to be used for principally, and what points are most important for the owner, which probably means living with it as it is for a month or so and see what issues evolve, if any.
Going off topic - have you heard the Abarth EsseEsse with Akrapovic exhaust

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Re: Advice on buying (new) car: Golf R vs BMW 3 series vs Audi A5

The 18'' rims and run-on-flat tires are quite good together. I cannot see anything strange for the moment, I've been driving it only for 1200 km since last week.
One thing I discovered is when driving it on some country roads (not very flat) there are some strange noises coming from the plastics on the door panel (stripes imitating the carbon). Should this be a common problem with door panels or should I go to the garage? Noises coming from plastics shouldn't be a problem on a premium car.
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Old 31.08.2011, 10:11
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Re: Advice on buying (new) car: Golf R vs BMW 3 series vs Audi A5

...think there is one around here I've driven behind a couple of times. Kinda cute and surprising, but not my thing either. Wonder what is sounds like inside...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9viVis8BbXA

Back on topic, OP if you have a woman in the formula, don't forget to figure in the noise and booby bounce factors when moding.

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Old 31.08.2011, 10:16
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The 18'' rims and run-on-flat tires are quite good together. I cannot see anything strange for the moment, I've been driving it only for 1200 km since last week.
One thing I discovered is when driving it on some country roads (not very flat) there are some strange noises coming from the plastics on the door panel (stripes imitating the carbon). Should this be a common problem with door panels or should I go to the garage? Noises coming from plastics shouldn't be a problem on a premium car.
I'd take it in, something is loose and/or the door needs adjusting. Car has never been in an accident?
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Re: Advice on buying (new) car: Golf R vs BMW 3 series vs Audi A5

No, it was a showroom car. It's just the plastics (moldings) making a strange sound. (like in my old Megane when driving it on cubic stones)
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Re: Advice on buying (new) car: Golf R vs BMW 3 series vs Audi A5

Nah, they've got to fix that, it'll be under warranty. Something is too tight or too loose, there shouldn't be any flex there at all.
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Re: Advice on buying (new) car: Golf R vs BMW 3 series vs Audi A5

...one thing you could check is where the door molding meets the end of the dash, maybe it is rubbing there, making the noise. Spray both sides with a BMW plastic cleaner and wipe it off. See if that helps.
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Old 31.08.2011, 11:00
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Re: Advice on buying (new) car: Golf R vs BMW 3 series vs Audi A5

We just got a new mini cooper s with run flats, oh my god!!! they tramline like a bugger, don't give me any feeling of the road at all, hate them, HATE THEM!!! wouldn't be so bad except I specifically told the salesperson when we ordered it I didn't want runflats. oh well.
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Re: Advice on buying (new) car: Golf R vs BMW 3 series vs Audi A5

They are heavy, have a high rotating mass giving a gyroscope effect that accentuates tramlining. I'd call the dealer on the carpet and tell him to exchange them for something appropriate to you original order.

Keep tabs on correct inflation too...
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They are heavy, have a high rotating mass giving a gyroscope effect that accentuates tramlining. I'd call the dealer on the carpet and tell him to exchange them for something appropriate to you original order.

Keep tabs on correct inflation too...
unfortunately it wasn't noted on the order, so its 6 of one half a dozen of the other, she didn't note it, and I didn't check it was noted.

It needs winter wheels and tyres soon so I'll get it sorted then
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Re: Advice on buying (new) car: Golf R vs BMW 3 series vs Audi A5

...try for goodwill or be an utter prick.
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...try for goodwill or be an utter prick.
Will that require method acting?

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Will that require method acting?

BB2 - How come she gets a nice Mini and you get a crappy old Rover?

the rover is hers lol

the mini is my drive to the station car, but the mini one was just too damn slow
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the rover is hers lol

the mini is my drive to the station car, but the mini one was just too damn slow
Phew!!

If you think a proper Mini is too slow then you haven't fettled it properly. My dad was running a near race spec engine in out BL Mini back in the early 80s
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Phew!!

If you think a proper Mini is too slow then you haven't fettled it properly. My dad was running a near race spec engine in out BL Mini back in the early 80s
I had a couple of proper mini's in my youth, a normal mini sprite, then a full on cooper from john coopers garage, that thing tried to kill me a couple of times
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Re: Advice on buying (new) car: Golf R vs BMW 3 series vs Audi A5

BTW, if you are into detailing at all, or just like to see a bunch of exotics and oldtimers, Swisswax is having an open house Sa, Su 10-11.09 in Faellanden.

http://www.swizol.ch/servicedivision.html

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