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Smoking when pregnant

Years ago I worked with a woman who smoked about 5 cigarettes a day throughout her pregnancy. One of our fellow colleagues and a good friend of ours stopped talking to her as she was really angry about this woman smoking while she was pregnant.
The other day, while visiting a friend of mine (who incidentally also smoked while she was pregnant), a family member of hers came over for a visit. She is around 7 months pregnant and is smoking too.

Did any of you smoke while you were pregnant or are smoking while you are pregnant? Do you feel it does not harm the baby at all? I'm just curious to know why women do this. Please understand that I am not judging anyone in any way (I've got a ton of planks/beams/motes etc. in my own eyes so have no fear..).
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Re: Smoking when pregnant

I've been watching this programme called "Misbehaving Mums to Be" and was absolutely appalled by the selfishness and sometimes stupidity of these women. Ok, so most of them got pregnant by accident, but one of them actually thought that smoking was good for her baby!

My parents, both heavy smokers, stopped when they got serious about having me and I am very thankful to them. It's hard to quit but I really think that as soon as you are not only responsible for your own life, then you should try and live it as healthily as possible.
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Old 08.05.2011, 20:04
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I've been watching this programme called "Misbehaving Mums to Be" and was absolutely appalled by the selfishness and sometimes stupidity of these women. Ok, so most of them got pregnant by accident, but one of them actually thought that smoking was good for her baby!

My parents, both heavy smokers, stopped when they got serious about having me and I am very thankful to them. It's hard to quit but I really think that as soon as you are not only responsible for your own life, then you should try and live it as healthily as possible.
Is this just due to lack of education and how they were brought up?

My mother also smoked prior to having kids but stopped each time she was pregnant or nursing.
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Old 08.05.2011, 20:10
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Re: Smoking when pregnant

Lack of education. Choosing to believe what makes you feel good about yourself. Ingrained selfishness.

And strong addiction of course.
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Re: Smoking when pregnant

Smoking is an addiction. Nicotine and all the other rubbish in cigarettes makes them very addictive.

Some women get an aversion when pregnant, some do not...some have to make a big effort to quit, and others do not.

My cousin's ex-partner didn't think there was anything much wrong with smoking during pregnancy because it was good if the baby wouldn't grow 'too big'...mind you, she also smoked marijuana and injected heroin, so in the scheme of things it probably wasn't the most dangerous thing she did...whilst pregnant, before or afterwards...
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Re: Smoking when pregnant

Statistically, smoking is potentially harmful for the unborn child. It is also statistically harmfull to be growing up , inhaling cigarette smoke. That does not mean all babies will be harmed, but why take risks?
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Old 08.05.2011, 20:24
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Re: Smoking when pregnant

This is all nonsense.

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Old 08.05.2011, 20:29
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Smoking is an addiction. Nicotine and all the other rubbish in cigarettes makes them very addictive.

Some women get an aversion when pregnant, some do not...some have to make a big effort to quit, and others do not.

My cousin's ex-partner didn't think there was anything much wrong with smoking during pregnancy because it was good if the baby wouldn't grow 'too big'...mind you, she also smoked marijuana and injected heroin, so in the scheme of things it probably wasn't the most dangerous thing she did...whilst pregnant, before or afterwards...
What?! Didn't she understand the reason why the baby would be smaller is because she was starving it of oxygen?!

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Statistically, smoking is potentially harmful for the unborn child. It is also statistically harmfull to be growing up , inhaling cigarette smoke. That does not mean all babies will be harmed, but why take risks?
Same thing can be said about eating raw meat, unpasteurized products etc. I had the 'rather be safe than sorry' attitude while pregnant. Although, a few women I know, when pregnant second or third time round, didn't watch what they ate as carefully as they did the first time round. Anyway, that's a bit OT.

I asked my gynecologist if she advised her smoking patients to quit smoking or if she left them to decide for themselves. She told me that she would advise them to quit but apparently, for some, they stress caused from completely quitting while pregnant was far more unhealthy for the baby than the mother smoking a couple of cigarettes a day.
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This is all nonsense.

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Care to elaborate on that? Is it nonsense to say smoking is harmful to the baby, or that as it is an addiction, it can be too hard to future mum to stop?

In the early 70s, I'm afraid we all smoked- but all gave up when we got pregnant. Apart from one in our group, a nurse and doctor's wife, who also siad she didn't want the baby to grow to big 'easier to push out' was her motto. The mind boggles.
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Re: Smoking when pregnant

One of my best friend smoked her whole both pregnancies. I didn't like it at all and told her many times. But what else could I do? I wasn't going to tie her up until she gives birth.

She knew perfectly the risks but she believes also that the amount she smokes wasn't going to hurt the babies. She still smokes now that she is breastfeeding.

She smokes outside only because she doesn't want to expose her kids to the smoke.....
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Old 08.05.2011, 21:28
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Ingrained selfishness.
I agree. .........
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Old 08.05.2011, 21:41
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Re: Smoking when pregnant

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Re: Smoking when pregnant

Growing up in the latter years of the 1900`s, no-one gave a thought to mothers smoking. Same as wife-bashing that "did not exist".

But now we all know better.

Smoking ... as I have learned .... deprives one`s body of oxygen, the blood does not carry its full load of this life-giving force.

As is also alcohol in the blood is carried into the baby`s blood stream.

Drugs ditto.

For those who do not give much thought to the future welfare of their off-spring, carrying on imbibing life inhibiting habits is rather selfish and if they can possibly try to go without their own drug it gives the child a better grounding for future good health.

I was ignorant of the hazards of cigarette smoke, and one of my children was born with Bronchiactisis (fluid in the lungs) that took many years to diagnose, and then treat, and he still has weak lungs... and a few other ailments, that I now believe was caused from cigarette smoke, and I live with my head hanging in shame for doing this to an innocent person, albeit in stupid ignorance.
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My mum smoked like a paratrooper from the age of 16 to the age of 94. But she totally gave up 3 times, everytime she was pregnant, in 1937, 48 and 51- it was made very clear to her that it was essential already in those days. The first thing she asked for after all 3 births was a fag.
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Old 08.05.2011, 22:27
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Re: Smoking when pregnant

i think it's quite easy to judge and say what is right and what is wrong- but it is an interesting concept brought up about stress of quiting vs. smoking for the unborn baby. i was lucky because i did smoke when i became preggers but the minute i found out i was, i had no desire to smoke- same through breastfeeding.

one of my neighbors, a lovely, caring, wonderful mommy who now has a gorgeous 3 month old did smoke during her pregnancy. because of complications (not smoking related) she was basically in her apartment for the last 7 months of her pregnancy. i would go up and visit her in the evenings and she would have a cigarette at the end of the day, not sure but i think she smoked around 3 a day. each time she did, i wanted to mention that it wasnt the best thing to do, but she knew that, she didn't like the fact that she was still smoking, but she would say how hard it was to stay inside all those months and that was maybe too much stress already for her, she just couldn't quit. and i felt that she didn't need me telling her what she already knew and making her feel worse. also, the doctor did say that if she was so stressed by quiting it may be worse for the baby given the circumstances.

now that the baby is born, she quit and it seems much easier for her now that she can go out and actually do things. honestly, i wonder if it is any different than having coca cola or getting a manicure each week or other things that we know can have an impact on the baby-even stress or depression or something like that. i'm not trying to say it is ok- it wasn't ok for me and that was a choice i made and it came very easily for me. but i'm not sure that it is always such a simple thing for everyone across the board.
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Is it true that when adults, babies exposed to tobacco smoke are able to post only one word answers in forums and are unable to make their points clear??
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Is it true that when adults, babies exposed to tobacco smoke are able to post only one word answers in forums and are unable to make their points clear??


I think the answer might be overwhelming some.

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i think it's quite easy to judge and say what is right and what is wrong..
Yeah, I agree with you there. It is, since the facts of sick babies speak for themselves. And we never know if it is those few odd cigs that one lights up during pregnancy or around our kids, or continuous exposure, that makes things evil for our babies. Some kids are resilient, others are not and end up with life time battles to deal with. Chances are that your caring and loving mommy will have an ok baby, but chances are that her smoking will cause pain later on. And in a system where most people I know cannot even afford a decent health insurance plan for themselves or their babies, unless they are gov workers or teachers. So, being careless of one's health actually costs so much more there than being careless in a country where your smoking related ailments only end up costing all of us.

If one gets preggo and has no will power to even quit smoking those 3 cigs a day, don't get preggo. I wouldn't mix up my sympathy for somebody in hard (there are gazillions of future moms bed ridden for months on, without smoking) situ with excusing something that is so obviously wrong. If she is stuck in the apartment and cannot really move around which healthwise it is already posing a risk, the worse would be to add oxygen deprivation to that. If one has no willpower to deal with this and it is just a beginning of parenting...makes me wonder. Besides, I read up somewhere smoking causes 3x higher risk of SIDS so all this question of being a good parents and carrying on smoking in pregnancy is obviously not a question for some smokers who's babies never woke up one morning. Or, smokers are known to have fertility issues (men and women), so too many won't even be able to question their parenting attitude, since there will be none.

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I get your point, but personally, I wouldn't banalize it. We are not trying to say here it is easy to quit for anyone. Different people have different troubles with it, it's a normal thing, some try for decades, for some it becomes important only later on, one needs a certain level of maturity and enough motivation and support. We all have our own battles to fight and more power to all who are dealing with something like this at the moment. Respek!

If I couldn't quit during pregnancy, I am darn sure I would be depressed about it. So to excuse smoking with possibly causing stress to the mom... Is waking up 4 times a night going to depress her too, or will she have a clop right after each time to help herself in this difficult parenting role?

I say sympathy is important, but to certain extent. I have troubles not feeling sympathy for those babies. Addictions are selfish.
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Re: Smoking when pregnant

I stopped for my first pregnancy and somehow I was glad I had made it, didn't smoke for three years (until I had my 2nd baby) and started again for stress-related reasons (didn't brestfeed). But I've never been a heavy smoker.

One of my acquaintances though was a very heavy smoker and didn't quit, her doctor told her that the withdrawal would harm the baby more than the nicotine.
Dunno about that, but I would have felt like making my baby suffocate had I smoked during pregnancy.
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Re: Smoking when pregnant

I am one of those babies who got heavily exposed to cigarettes from both parents while my mother was pregnant.

I am having very weak lungs, asthma and every single time I am having a cold it stays for weeks, sometimes months. And a flu means bronchitis for me at every single time. I some years got up to five bronchitis in one year.

So I find myself entitle to be judgemental.... Sorry.
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