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Old 29.06.2011, 23:28
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Sure, be happy to - as long as he's happy to lick up the results when I vomit it back up.
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Old 29.06.2011, 23:30
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Sure, be happy to - as long as he's happy to lick up the results when I vomit it back up.
Not keen then?
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Old 29.06.2011, 23:32
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Sure, be happy to - as long as he's happy to lick up the results when I vomit it back up.
Strange, I've never had this happen!

(must be all the Swiss, French, and Canadian girlfriends)

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Old 29.06.2011, 23:39
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Not keen then?
Not at all. Had a bad experience once (bad night including a violent altercation, bf trying to make up for it with good sex ), even the thought evokes memory and sometimes unsexy physical reaction.


Oh, hey, that could be an effective weight loss tool then I guess.
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Old 29.06.2011, 23:41
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Oh, hey, that could be an effective weight loss tool then I guess.
Perhaps, but there must be easier ways
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Old 29.06.2011, 23:54
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I think it's the "blame the Yanks and their lifestyle that is creeping in" shortcut mindset that I object.
I don't object to it. I think it's part of the cause.

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But lets quit putting lack of food hedonism and somewhat limited palate on a pedestal and sneering at people with weight problem, whatever caused it. I don't see that much of a difference, I do see people eating less, more salads, and way less meat or fatty things, since that is also a way to cut down cost of food which is high here.
Whose talking about limited palate? There's no need to get personal. I'm not the one who doesn't eat shellfish or this or that....

And, personally I think food and dining should be revered.
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Old 29.06.2011, 23:59
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But I don't really think the US has a limited palate (palette?) by any means - I think the food choices in the shops are probably the same as they are in Europe. It's the choices made by the population which are important along with the quantity consumed.

Having travelled a bit in the US, I've seen good healthy options but, as others have mentioned, it's cheaper to go for the unhealthy option whereas here it's the other way round.
It's about 50/50 on unhealthy/healthy choices where we are, and regarding food choices, defo not on par with some countries here. I do substitute with frequent trips to shop abroad though, 5km is worth it, so it is not a big deal really. The palate comment wasn't about US, it was about here. In fact, I think the pickiness of some US palates (sorry, Yanks) is what might be the reason for their troubles. It's the habit of eating something savoury/something sweet/something savoury/repeat.

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Yes, please don't blame the Yanks - someone on here may take offence.
Naw, just got tired of the let's talk about bad food, here comes another cliche. I do think we will eventually end up there, anyways, but why the hostility, who knows.

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I have tried about all bio, non alcohol, non paraben, non aluminum, non whatever deodorant, and they suck.

Smelly, lack of washing? Methan, baby, methan...

Ok, how about a turn, for now...

Who likes fast healthy foods? Any ideas?
Is kebab healthy? Houmous...yeah, Lebanese fast food, yum.
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Old 30.06.2011, 00:25
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Part of the thread reminds me of:

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Re: Fast fatty foods

And then there is this:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/...entry_id=92020

Haven't read the full study, could be fraught with errors and problems, but I think the point here is that people do vary in size, even kids, and maybe a little candy once in a while isn't that bad. But not as a reward, if that makes sense.

Maybe kids should just be encouraged to be active, exposed to varied foods, to eat what they want without a judgement call, and rarely encouraged to diet so they aren't set up for disordered eating (binging, purging or yo-yo dieting) later on, and perhaps issues from excess weight that arises because of yo-yo dieting. Ahh.. nirvana?
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Old 30.06.2011, 07:53
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And then there is this:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/...entry_id=92020

Haven't read the full study, could be fraught with errors and problems, but I think the point here is that people do vary in size, even kids, and maybe a little candy once in a while isn't that bad. But not as a reward, if that makes sense.

Maybe kids should just be encouraged to be active, exposed to varied foods, to eat what they want without a judgement call, and rarely encouraged to diet so they aren't set up for disordered eating (binging, purging or yo-yo dieting) later on, and perhaps issues from excess weight that arises because of yo-yo dieting. Ahh.. nirvana?
Actually, this makes sense to me, if you look at sweets "indulgences" for children and teens in a similar view that they tend to take with teen drinking: The forbidden is the more tempting.

Even for me, part of the thing about keeping my bags of chips or pies secret was not only to hide it from my father BUT also because there were treats in the house that were only his or only my mother's. We learned to hide things we wanted specially for ourselves, that it was okay not to share AND that if we did have something, we had to eat it quick and get rid of the evidence. I know that my sis and my brother each sneaked some of these forbidden treats, so did I.

Meanwhile, we were always told that if we were to drink alcohol, we could if we wanted to but it had to be in the presence of our parents or they had to know the other parents AND they had to be home. Unlike candies (my father tried to hide his to keep us out of it), my parents liquor cabinet was open, in plain view... and we never had any particular interest in sneaking or over-indulging. (Well, not until later, I think I was 19 or so before I ever got tipsy let alone "wasted" and by my early 20s I was almost always voluntary designated driver for my friends.) My older sis, my brother and I are all heavy, the two youngest (who, by-the-by, were indulged more and punished less) are both relatively slender.

So, I think it is along the line of "healthy relationship with food" thing, plus of course "healthy relationship with parents."



Of course, there are some other differences between us older three and the younger two, including the fact that my mother's thyroid condition was not caught until after we three were born and by the time the other two came along, it was stabilized via replacement therapy.

Additionally though, ALL of us kids born to my mother's side of the family within certain ages struggle with our weight and each of our mothers (my mother and our aunts) were all exposed to radiation ("minimal amounts" according to the US military, due to bomb testing at Bikini Atoll while they lived on Kwajalein) around the time they hit puberty. ALL of that generation on my mother's side suffers from auto immune diseases and we are finding out that our generation does as well. All of the females born to my mother and her sisters have trouble conceiving and / or carrying to term. (The doctors say that's because we're all heavy... )


So, yes, I KNOW that if I burn off more than I consume, obviously it will have some impact on my weight. I also know that even while I was a teen (height of metabolic efficiency generally, right?), I was spending "all day" (aside from hours spent at school) swimming or bicycling to and from swimming spots... and I still weighed something around 160lbs. Of course, it's not like we were swimming laps the whole time but we WERE swimming in the ocean, not laying on the sand like dead fish. We also weren't exactly doing 10mile races on our bicycles but as we didn't want to waste any beach time, we weren't exactly doing "Sunday drive" style pace either.

Study sample of, oh, one - or maybe three - I guess because it's not like I know what my cousins were doing (they are in Oregon and Alaska, then and now), it does make me curious why, even when we were exercising more and eating less, why is it "harder" for my siblings and I to keep trim? The friends who went with us were more (visibly) trim than we.

This is what makes me believe "there is more to it than that"... it is not simply "eat less, burn more," not for everyone.
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Old 30.06.2011, 11:46
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Naw, just got tired of the let's talk about bad food, here comes another cliche. I do think we will eventually end up there, anyways, but why the hostility, who knows.



I have tried about all bio, non alcohol, non paraben, non aluminum, non whatever deodorant, and they suck.

Smelly, lack of washing? Methan, baby, methan...

Ok, how about a turn, for now...

Who likes fast healthy foods? Any ideas?
Is kebab healthy? Houmous...yeah, Lebanese fast food, yum
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I wasn't being hostile here - just ironic.

And yeah - it's a great idea to discuss healthy fast foods.

I love dolmades, hummus, tzatziki, etc, and make a good homemade kebab using sliced lamb fillet, garlicky yogurt, tomatoes, rocket and roasted pinenuts in wholwheat pitta.
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Old 30.06.2011, 12:25
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Actually, this makes sense to me, if you look at sweets "indulgences" for children and teens in a similar view that they tend to take with teen drinking: The forbidden is the more tempting.

Even for me, part of the thing about keeping my bags of chips or pies secret was not only to hide it from my father BUT also because there were treats in the house that were only his or only my mother's. We learned to hide things we wanted specially for ourselves, that it was okay not to share AND that if we did have something, we had to eat it quick and get rid of the evidence. I know that my sis and my brother each sneaked some of these forbidden treats, so did I.
Our kids have sweets - probably too many (though you need to appreciate that our definition of too many may not be the same as someone else's).

One lady up the road (not Swiss) says her children get too many sweets too; from parties, relatives and so on that periodically she clears the sweets cupboard out and bins the lot.

We don't have treats hidden from our children. If there are treats, they get shared. As we don't snack and only eat at meal times, there isn't a problem of someone having a treat whilst others are missing out as treats get consumed generally at meal times.

We sound like tyrants but it's actually a bit more relaxed than that with ice-creams and lollies on hot days and popcorn making etc.
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And yeah - it's a great idea to discuss healthy fast foods.

I love dolmades, hummus, tzatziki, etc, and make a good homemade kebab using sliced lamb fillet, garlicky yogurt, tomatoes, rocket and roasted pinenuts in wholwheat pitta.
That does sound positively delicious !
Perhaps you've got an idea right there.. why not start a catering business of healthy refined international cuisine ?

You could build a clientele, for events, parties etc.
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I wasn't being hostile here - just ironic.

And yeah - it's a great idea to discuss healthy fast foods.

I love dolmades, hummus, tzatziki, etc, and make a good homemade kebab using sliced lamb fillet, garlicky yogurt, tomatoes, rocket and roasted pinenuts in wholwheat pitta.
Lots of healthy foods can be made quickly. We used to order pizza from our village and then we found that if we make the dough in advance, we can make our own pizza in the same time it takes to have one delivered.

We often do a mediterranean-themed dinner when we have guests - it works really well when you have both meat eaters and vegetarians. Hummus, tzatziki, baba ganoush, grilled lamb, roasted peppers and a variant of spanakopita.

But I think the key is planning, not always easy for people.

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Our kids have sweets - probably too many (though you need to appreciate that our definition of too many may not be the same as someone else's).


We sound like tyrants but it's actually a bit more relaxed than that with ice-creams and lollies on hot days and popcorn making etc.
I'm actually not surprised at this at all.
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I can make a pizza - including making the dough from scratch, in 90 seconds.

(Okay, it's certainly not a true pizza dough but it tastes good).

I used to do it to show kids that making stuff at home from scratch could be much faster than ordering a take-away.

The clearing-up after thirty kids then trying this for themselves used to take a hell of a lot longer than 90 seconds!
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Re: Fast fatty foods

Some of the yummiest and healthiest stuff can be made with what is left in the fridge;
Tomato bruschettas, patties made with left over sweetcorn, egg, flour and milk, or maybe cooked potato wedges, brushed with olive oil and roasted in the oven. Like fast food, but much healthier and economical too.

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share the recipe please. I normally buy the dough but if it could be made so easily I would rather do that.

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I can make a pizza - including making the dough from scratch, in 90 seconds.

(Okay, it's certainly not a true pizza dough but it tastes good).

I used to do it to show kids that making stuff at home from scratch could be much faster than ordering a take-away.

The clearing-up after thirty kids then trying this for themselves used to take a hell of a lot longer than 90 seconds!
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I can make a pizza - including making the dough from scratch, in 90 seconds.
How does it have time to rise?

Also, how does one make the sauce in that time (normally takes a couple hours).

I set up my bread machine to make the dough when I go home for lunch, and make the sauce also at that time.

Thus, when I return home after work, the sauce has cooled, the dough has risen, and now I just have to wait 1 1/2 hours for the pizza oven to heat up! (gas fired with a 6cm thick stone)

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How does it have time to rise?

Also, how does one make the sauce in that time (normally takes a couple hours).

I set up my bread machine to make the dough when I go home for lunch, and make the sauce also at that time.

Thus, when I return home after work, the sauce has cooled, the dough has risen, and now I just have to wait 1 1/2 hours for the pizza oven to heat up! (gas fired with a 6cm thick stone)

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