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Old 24.05.2011, 11:44
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Death of a beemer

"Doom, doom, doomdoom, doom, dodoom, dodoom, dodoooooooom" (sung loudly and with feeling to the strains of Shoppin´s funeral-march)
The moment I have dreaded for a long time is here at last, seems just like a week or so I was boasting a smarmy Njah! Njah! over the 220.000 Kilometers on the beemers clock.
During Thursdays ride I had this feeling in my butt-cheeks that something was not quite in order, like getting oral from your sister, still feels good but somehow it´s just not right.
A few miles on and the rear wheel started to grind, I ended up at the next bike shop with the naive hope that a grease-gun and duct-tape would put things right again.
Nope! No such luck.
End drive is now a greasy, coffee mill. Metal shavings in the oil, not a good sign.
Sooo for the last few days I have been checking the lay of the land.
A new bit, will set me back by 1200€ but the whole bike only cost me 2000€, been e-baying for a used one, not much around and the ones available start at 500€, still not much of an option, I have been told by almost trust-worthy persons that I could have the original end-drive rebuilt but again the cost is prohibitive, I was offered 500 Chuff´s for the bike though.

Since last thursday I have been degraded back to a car-driver, six days without a bike and I am getting phantom pain between my legs.
Looks like Slammer needs a new bike mucho pronto.
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Old 24.05.2011, 11:47
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"Doom, doom, doomdoom, doom, dodoom, dodoom, dodoooooooom" (sung loudly and with feeling to the strains of Shoppin´s funeral-march)
The moment I have dreaded for a long time is here at last, seems just like a week or so I was boasting a smarmy Njah! Njah! over the 220.000 Kilometers on the beemers clock.
During Thursdays ride I had this feeling in my butt-cheeks that something was not quite in order, like getting oral from your sister, still feels good but somehow it´s just not right.
A few miles on and the rear wheel started to grind, I ended up at the next bike shop with the naive hope that a grease-gun and duct-tape would put things right again.
Nope! No such luck.
End drive is now a greasy, coffee mill. Metal shavings in the oil, not a good sign.
Sooo for the last few days I have been checking the lay of the land.
A new bit, will set me back by 1200€ but the whole bike only cost me 2000€, been e-baying for a used one, not much around and the ones available start at 500€, still not much of an option, I have been told by almost trust-worthy persons that I could have the original end-drive rebuilt but again the cost is prohibitive, I was offered 500 Chuff´s for the bike though.

Since last thursday I have been degraded back to a car-driver, six days without a bike and I am getting phantom pain between my legs.
Looks like Slammer needs a new bike mucho pronto.
Ya' should have gotten a Japanese bike... (waiting for the Kraut crowd to sign in..)
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Old 24.05.2011, 11:58
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Re: Death of a beemer

Sorry, I only (well mostly, 5/6) ride Italian bikes.

Each of my Guzzis has lunched the rear (both in the same year, about a month apart), and my friend last year (but it is a 37 year old bike), his cost EUR 800 to have rebuilt, I did one by myself back in the late '90s, problem was tracking down the parts (found one gear set in CH, the other in Italy, they were on back order)

Meanwhile, I've got two boxer motors in pieces in my office at work (one with a broken crank, the other to be used for parts) to put together for a friend when I get some time.

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Old 24.05.2011, 12:31
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Re: Death of a beemer

My 2002 r1150r has only 22k on the clock but when I had it checked for 20k service here approx. 6months ago, i had been told that the clutch was "slipping!"; I am not good with those things and asked the technician to explain. From what he said, the single most important bit I recognized and remembered was that it would set me back by CHF 1.5k-2.0k which I found ridiculous for a bike at this age.
Since I was told I could drive it for some time without cashing out, I let it go..

As Murphy's law never fails, when I intended to drive it during the last weekend when wife-kiddo were out of town, I noticed that the bike would not accelerate i.e., clutch issues. So I had to drop the bike at a nearby garage with great difficulties to say the least (getting the bike to start at 10-12degrees in a junction was nightmare)

So I am at a similar situation.. get the bike repaired for a relatively high cost or getting it traded-in for a younger model at even higher sum
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Old 24.05.2011, 12:34
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Or learn how to fix it yourself.

Parts for the clutch should be less than CHF 200, the rest is labor (you have to remove the engine on BMW/Guzzi to do the clutch).

I had a slipping clutch on one of my Ducatis the other day, took me 15 minutes to fix (just needed add an additional plate to increase the stack height).

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Old 24.05.2011, 13:32
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My 2002 r1150r has only 22k on the clock but when I had it checked for 20k service here approx. 6months ago, i had been told that the clutch was "slipping!"; I am not good with those things and asked the technician to explain. From what he said, the single most important bit I recognized and remembered was that it would set me back by CHF 1.5k-2.0k which I found ridiculous for a bike at this age.
Since I was told I could drive it for some time without cashing out, I let it go..

As Murphy's law never fails, when I intended to drive it during the last weekend when wife-kiddo were out of town, I noticed that the bike would not accelerate i.e., clutch issues. So I had to drop the bike at a nearby garage with great difficulties to say the least (getting the bike to start at 10-12degrees in a junction was nightmare)

So I am at a similar situation.. get the bike repaired for a relatively high cost or getting it traded-in for a younger model at even higher sum
I feel your pain. Although I am sure that I can dismantle the end drive I have checked the manuals and there is no way I could re-build it myself without specialist tools.
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Old 24.05.2011, 13:36
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I feel your pain. Although I am sure that I can dismantle the end drive I have checked the manuals and there is no way I could re-build it myself without specialist tools.
I am not even a novice with engines; so repairing the bike on my own is not an option.

I am still waiting for the garage to come back on the repair costs and then I will make up my mind
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Old 24.05.2011, 14:54
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I feel your pain. Although I am sure that I can dismantle the end drive I have checked the manuals and there is no way I could re-build it myself without specialist tools.
What year/model?

Well, I just checked the Haynes (useless for the final drive) and BMW shop manual (airheads), and it seems that it's pretty similar to the Guzzi, and one should be able to get away without special tools. Biggest problem is that you'll need a supply of shims. When I did my Guzzi, I did it at a shop that lets you work on your stuff if you buy the parts from them, so I got a bunch of shims and gave back the ones I didn't use.

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Old 24.05.2011, 16:14
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Re: Death of a beemer

I did the BMW manual and it seems that you need a jig to mount the gizzards correctly. Still I will see if it is a possibility.
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Old 24.05.2011, 16:22
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Re: Death of a beemer

If you've time on your hands, it's worth doing.

We've got a small machine shop at work, so if I DO need something special, I can usually make it.

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Old 24.05.2011, 16:43
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That has to be one of the saddest titles I have ever seen - sympathies ...
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Oh noes!

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Sorry to hear it.
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Old 25.05.2011, 16:17
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Re: Death of a beemer

Follow-up on my side of the story:
(I had left the bike with the garage last Saturday after they said they have the perfect window of opportunity to carry out the repairs).

Since nobody called me up regarding costs, I call up the garage myself today. The guy on the other side of the line asks me whether I had left the bike with them giving me almost an heart-attack. It turns out they did not file a service card as they were supposed to when accepting a bike i.e., the bike was not serviced at all during the last two working days.

seems this week will also be foregone
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