I think the real question is " if a tree falls in a forest and no one is around is the thread still considered noise ? "

No. It's in general off-topic...

we also could believe all the birds flying up, the animals running away and the animals further away looking towards the falling tree... sorry, maybe not scientifical enough...

I will be unscientific too, why would be sound the primary thing, either. The nature damage management will start anyways, even if humans don't hear it. Animals register, the creatures killed by it not anymore I guess. If ton of trees fell, even without anyone hearing it, and if they kept falling, nature would have noticed, the oxygen levels, the mud slides happen at deforested areas. So one tree makes a difference, since it can start a process lot bigger. Anyone up for some tree hugging?

Oy, is this some kind of flounce metaphor, or am I being really slow?

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The question is not about whether a tree falls or not, nor whether it was seen/witnessed, nor whether there are any effects from the tree falling (i.e. nature management as you call it). It is a question about whether during the act of falling it makes any noise if no one (human) is there to hear it.

Keep on topic, eh?

But what if someone is there to hear it but has Bose noise cancelling headphones on and doesn't hear it!

But surely it made a sound for the bose headphones to cancel out?

Quite... I eagerly await UTH's return from pool-side... or maybe not...

When did humans become so important?

What was before, the things or the concept of things for people to play with and name them?

I think the tree falling matters without us hearing it. I don't consider human perception of stuff the most important.

Because they are the only ones dumb enough to have the discussion. Meanwhile all the animals are too busy running the f**k out the way...

Seriously, though, that's why I asked my first question...

The nature of this argument reminds me the good old realism/nominalism conflict. Was the thing here before somebody even registered and named it.

Does cleaning really matters if nobody sees us doing it....Suuuuure.

It reminds you of it, 'cos it's pretty much the same discussion...

Don't you know when UtH says playing pool, he isn't talking about pool...? That's just your interpretation, open that mind up man!

Yes. And when did that start? It actually never really ended , even if you keep religion out of it.

So, the easiest will be to take that tree into the account.
And clean, when nobody's looking.

so long as you do a good job, and don't forget to dust....

The underlined part of the of the statement (assumption) already states that a sound was made.

Now the argument is if the presence or absence of a recepient has a a bearing on the fact of sound being generated.

This is my expert conclusion from a philosophical perspective. Anyone who disagrees is clearly ignorant.

Ah but the original question was: Does a tree falling in the forest make a sound if no one is around to here it?