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Old 19.06.2011, 19:48
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Disaster with computer - Has everything gone forever?

My dear husband was drilling the wall, hit a wire and bang the electrics went.
My PC was on and when I put it back on - everything has gone. We have had power cuts in the past and this has not affected it.
The computer is working but like it is new , everything has gone but the starter page is just a HP logo.
I thought my son had backed everything up but he hasn't.
Is there anything I can do?
It would not turn on so when he got to start up screen he used the F10 button to use system recovery. It recovered but like a new computer.

Any ideas or do I have to accept that everything has gone ?
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Old 19.06.2011, 20:03
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Re: Disaster with computer - Has everything gone forever?

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he used the F10 button to use system recovery.
This was probably not a good idea.

However, unless it did a format, there still should be your stuff on the disk (installed programs are another matter).

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Old 19.06.2011, 22:29
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Re: Disaster with computer - Has everything gone forever?

It might be worth getting in touch with a company that specialises in data recovery. They usually have tools which can retrieve data from the hard drive.
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My dear husband was drilling the wall, hit a wire and bang the electrics went.
Drilling on a Sunday?
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Old 19.06.2011, 22:33
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My dear husband was drilling the wall, hit a wire and bang the electrics went.
My PC was on and when I put it back on - everything has gone. We have had power cuts in the past and this has not affected it.
The computer is working but like it is new , everything has gone but the starter page is just a HP logo.
I thought my son had backed everything up but he hasn't.
Is there anything I can do?
It would not turn on so when he got to start up screen he used the F10 button to use system recovery. It recovered but like a new computer.

Any ideas or do I have to accept that everything has gone ?
the system recover is normally the 'factory reset' option. it will probably be very costly to recover the data now.
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Old 19.06.2011, 22:48
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Re: Disaster with computer - Has everything gone forever?

I would try to boot on a Linux CD live to see if there's something that can be restored.

I think there's some "cd live" made for this kind of problem, but I'm not sure.

(Now you need another computer to get the stuff and burn it on a cd...)
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Old 19.06.2011, 22:53
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Re: Disaster with computer - Has everything gone forever?

It sounds like you may have formatted the drive back to it's original state. Unless the data was really important, I would consider it gone. I went through hell trying to get data off my old network hard drive and it was a lot of work for nothing, the data was gone. I even reinstalled the drive into a unix computer to try to boot it as a secondary drive and no luck - it was blank. I didn't even format it, that was the weird part. It deceided to format itself or someone came to my home and did something when I wasn't paying attention.

Gotta keep a back up. now I back up to a NAS and to a mini hard drive and to a backup computer.
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Old 19.06.2011, 22:56
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Re: Disaster with computer - Has everything gone forever?

Many thanks for all your suggestions. I spoke to my computer guy and he told me download "open source unerase" which can recover hard disks etc.
I have done this and it is still running so maybe it will help
Will have to see what happens....
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Old 19.06.2011, 22:58
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Re: Disaster with computer - Has everything gone forever?

Keeping fingers crossed...
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Old 19.06.2011, 22:58
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Re: Disaster with computer - Has everything gone forever?

what info are you trying to recover? if photos, there are some good utilities to recover this kind of thing.
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Old 19.06.2011, 23:00
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Drilling on a Sunday?

Ha Ha......Actually, am at present in UK... I would not have dared to drill on a Sunday "en Suisse"
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Old 19.06.2011, 23:02
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what info are you trying to recover? if photos, there are some good utilities to recover this kind of thing.

There are photos, documents, letters, drawings, designs - everything.!!
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Old 20.06.2011, 08:53
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There are photos, documents, letters, drawings, designs - everything.!!
Thumbs pressed you find a solution.
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Old 20.06.2011, 09:21
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Many thanks for all your suggestions. I spoke to my computer guy and he told me download "open source unerase" which can recover hard disks etc.
I have done this and it is still running so maybe it will help
Will have to see what happens....
That is good advice about unerase. you are on the right track.

First off though, I would do the following:

1) Don't boot the PC from the original hard drive at all.
2) Buy an external HDD 100chf from Frust, digitec, etc.
3) Copy (Image) the old hard disk, ideally using DD, perhaps using gparted, onto the new disk.
Get gparted off the net on another PC, don't use the one you have for downloads, you will be wiping your stuff.
4) Now do everything your tech says. If you screw up, you will have a copy on the external drive, and can "keep trying again" until you learn how to unerase, etc.

Personally I normally do the unerase stuff on the image. Save the old drive, never use it again. Keep as an archive.
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Old 20.06.2011, 09:28
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Re: Disaster with computer - Has everything gone forever?

Hi,
Unless the data has been "Replaced" on the hard drive, then it's still possible to recover some data.


As said earlier it's likely that a "HP reset" has been made (ie your hard drive has been replaced by the "image" of the harddrive made by HP). But it should have not use all HD space-

Try to use that freeware:

http://www.piriform.com/recuva

They was another one, better, but can't remember the name!


If it does not gives result, it's probably not possible anymore to retrieve anything, because that would imply the data has been "replaced everywhere" on the HDD- but it's unlikely.
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Old 20.06.2011, 09:36
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It sounds like you may have formatted the drive back to it's original state. Unless the data was really important, I would consider it gone. I went through hell trying to get data off my old network hard drive and it was a lot of work for nothing, the data was gone. I even reinstalled the drive into a unix computer to try to boot it as a secondary drive and no luck - it was blank. I didn't even format it, that was the weird part. It deceided to format itself or someone came to my home and did something when I wasn't paying attention.

Gotta keep a back up. now I back up to a NAS and to a mini hard drive and to a backup computer.
Even if it is formatted the data should still be there

It's just marked on the HDD as "empty" but not yet replaced.

You could recover a formatted disk with simple freeware like recuva...
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Old 20.06.2011, 09:57
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Re: Disaster with computer - Has everything gone forever?

I'm sure the data is still there whatever you have done to the computer, it will just take someone who knows the tricks to pull it all back for you. Looking at it in another way, these terrorist and criminal masterminds would be able to get off scot-free because they upset the power to their PC, dumping all the data.

If the data has completely gone - look on the bright side: maybe you can rent your hubby out to the criminal underworld to take care of their dodgy hard drives...
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Old 20.06.2011, 10:02
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Re: Disaster with computer - Has everything gone forever?

Nice discussion and tips from you guys. This leads to following question:
if you sell your laptop on ebay/ricardo what's the best way to make sure the buyer won't recover your erased data from HD?
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Old 20.06.2011, 10:07
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Nice discussion and tips from you guys. This leads to following question:
if you sell your laptop on ebay/ricardo what's the best way to make sure the buyer won't recover your erased data from HD?
There's options on some software to "wipe" your data.

or manually erase everything and fill the hard drive with a small text file, copied over and over until there's no more space.



Or get your husband to drill the wall and do a "factory restore"
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My dear husband was drilling the wall, hit a wire and bang the electrics went.
My PC was on and when I put it back on - everything has gone. We have had power cuts in the past and this has not affected it.
The computer is working but like it is new , everything has gone but the starter page is just a HP logo.
I thought my son had backed everything up but he hasn't.
Is there anything I can do?
It would not turn on so when he got to start up screen he used the F10 button to use system recovery. It recovered but like a new computer.

Any ideas or do I have to accept that everything has gone ?
Does it just hang on the HP logo or drop in a black screen?

If it hangs on the HP logo and freezes could be the BIOS, not the disk.
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