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Old 21.06.2011, 14:20
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Where did someone get angry? I thought we were all quite welcoming.
You're right. Maybe the word "angry" was an overstatement. I guess I was just referring to the posts where people say something a bit snarky like "an introduction would be nice... " as though the OP doesn't deserve a valid response to his/her thread until they first formally introduce themselves. I just sometimes feel bad for newbies when they post a thread for the first time with a legitimate question/issue but get a bit criticized for not first introducing themselves. But I am relatively new to this forum myself, so maybe there are just some de facto rules here that I just haven't quite grasped yet.
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Old 21.06.2011, 14:21
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I DID introduce myself and nobody noticed.

Whatchootalkin' about?! Three people noticed your intro. THREE!!! That's three more than noticed mine, at least until Begga did her charity bit.
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Old 21.06.2011, 14:22
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Old 21.06.2011, 14:23
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Whatchootalkin' about?! Three people noticed your intro. THREE!!! That's three more than noticed mine, at least until Begga did her charity bit.
ohhhhh my... you musta had to dust off the bookshelves to find that post.
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Old 21.06.2011, 14:23
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Re: Fathead

Actually I do remember I had a bunch little notices while I was registering that I should introduce myself first, going to the point of already calling me rude for not having it done so when I finally got my posting rights...

But then again, I like reading the little lines before signing anything

In this case I am with the people who are, still in a friendly way, reminding the OP that he should have, at least, said "Hello" instead of shooting straight ahead...
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You're right. Maybe the word "angry" was an overstatement. I guess I was just referring to the posts where people say something a bit snarky like "an introduction would be nice... " as though the OP doesn't deserve a valid response to his/her thread until they first formally introduce themselves. I just sometimes feel bad for newbies when they post a thread for the first time with a legitimate question/issue but get a bit criticized for not first introducing themselves. But I am relatively new to this forum myself, so maybe there are just some de facto rules here that I just haven't quite grasped yet.
It helps if you think of the English Forum as the bar of a pub. Anyone is welcome to drink in here, there are often lively arguments about nothing, but there is always someone available to offer useful advice or a helping hand if one of their number is in trouble.

One day, some random chap walks in, goes up to the bar and shouts, "where can I find brown sugar?"

What would the reaction of the regulars be, if this were to happen in your local pub?
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Old 21.06.2011, 14:24
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You're right. Maybe the word "angry" was an overstatement. I guess I was just referring to the posts where people say something a bit snarky like "an introduction would be nice... " as though the OP doesn't deserve a valid response to his/her thread until they first formally introduce themselves. I just sometimes feel bad for newbies when they post a thread for the first time with a legitimate question/issue but get a bit criticized for not first introducing themselves. But I am relatively new to this forum myself, so maybe there are just some de facto rules here that I just haven't quite grasped yet.

title of this thread: Fathead
goal of this thread: What to do with PS
Suggested actions: Replace PS, Buy new computer, duck and cover
Non Related suggestions: Post on introductoins
Trolls: 1 lolcat.

The thread has properly gone it's course DESPITE it's obvious faults. No one told him to STFU and GTFO. That would have been uncalled for.
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Old 21.06.2011, 14:27
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Re: Fathead

You can pick up a new power supply at Steg for 29.90

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Old 21.06.2011, 14:32
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Re: Fathead

It might be polite to introduce oneself when you enter a room, but if you're lying a ditch and need help who cares about introductions? The OP needed help. His computer went pop....maybe he was posting from a borrowed computer and just needed to find an answer.

As pointed out most of you/us ignore introductions anyway. To continue the analogy, isn't that the same as someone walking into a room and introducing themselves and being met by silence? Or only one or two people from a large group saying hi?

Anyway, to keep it on topic the pop the OP heard is most likely the power supply. Very simple to replace himself, and depending on wattage, not very expensive. I'd try replacing it myself first. I know because I did exactly the same thing before!
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Old 21.06.2011, 14:35
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this person One-hour glasses service in Geneva? never introduced herself and never got beat up about it.


I'll have to ask her how she managed that tonight, I'm not gonna mention that lady and her dog tho
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Old 21.06.2011, 14:50
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Re: Fathead

what do you men by "Turned it on and pop"?
did it disappear?, melt in the ground?, simply turned off?

did you smell smoke coming out of it?

maybe you only have to change the power supply.
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maybe you have to change the whole thing (buy a new cpu)

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Old 21.06.2011, 14:59
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I hope john h (the OP) comes back to read all these helpful posts. He logged off before the first reply was made.

And that's another (even bigger) pet hate of mine -- people who ask for help but never stick around to receive it, or take the advice but don't thank others for it. Not that I'm saying that's the case in this particular thread, but it happens all too often. It's just good manners to (listen to and) thank people for their help, just as it is to introduce oneself when arriving in a new place.
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Old 21.06.2011, 16:03
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I don't understand why some people get angry at "newbies" for not first introducing themselves. For one thing (and unless I'm mistaken), it's not like this forum has a huge notice somewhere that says: "You must first formally introduce yourself before you are allowed to post a thread that consists of anything other than a formal introduction."
A fellow mod has just refreshed my memory. Upon registering, you receive a message from EF which starts with the following paragraphs:

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Welcome to the English Forum in Switzerland. Thank you for registering! We hope your time with us will be enjoyable.

Since 2005, our forum serves the English speaking community within Switzerland and offers advice to those who consider coming here for work, or just a vacation. Without you and the support of the other members, it would not be possible to keep the English Forum alive.

We warmly invite you to browse through the diverse topics and areas of interest. We are also looking forward to learning a little about yourself. In the "Introductions" forum, a brief hello to the community is always welcomed. Also, If you update your profile, which can be done in the "My Settings" area, this will help us to find the best answers to your questions about Switzerland:

http://www.englishforum.ch/introductions
That third paragraph is not a "huge notice", but it's a friendly, politely-worded request to make a brief introduction. Pretty reasonable, I think.

Anyway, that's probably enough on this (off) topic -- the question of introductions has been discussed many times before on EF.
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Old 22.06.2011, 06:24
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by osmosis
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Old 22.06.2011, 06:52
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Okay Okay!
Hi, my name is John and I'm an alcohol........
Oh wrong meeting!

Here's the p**p. I just arrived here from Chicago with my wife, Nancy. We are on a 3 year stint. I own a business in Glenview, a suburb to the north of Chicago. I am in the automotive business back home. Been in it for almost 38 years, 22 of which I owned my own shop. We have 4 kids all over 21 and I have a grandson. In our free time we like to travel. (both addicted to photography.)

Is everybody happy now? Tough crowd.
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Old 22.06.2011, 07:07
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Hi John!

Terrific intro. You're going to fit in just fine.

Good luck with your stay in Switzerland and hope to hear more from you!
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Old 22.06.2011, 07:26
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Re: Fathead

Would you buy a used car from this man?

I'm sure Chicago is a tough place to live, but things are a little bit more gentile here - it ain't Chicago. There are many differences - one of which is voltage.
So a bold and brash attitude that may have worked there, may not be appreciated in quite the same way here, by some of the people that you're hoping may be able to help you with your problem.

Unfortunately, despite what you believe, you're not unique on this forum. Many drive-by posters appear crying out for help, without a thought for following a few simple guidelines and courtesies - as outlined in the post from 22Yards, above - and disappear once they've got what they want, without another word.

I appreciate that finding your feet in a new location and situation isn't always easy, but if you play the game, and not fight it, then, hopefully things will work out just dandy.

For what is, in the main, a bunch of multi-national strangers, things seem to tick over quite effectively here.

Oh ..... and we have bears in CH, too.
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Old 22.06.2011, 07:42
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I hope john h (the OP) comes back to read all these helpful posts. He logged off before the first reply was made.

And that's another (even bigger) pet hate of mine -- people who ask for help but never stick around to receive it, or take the advice but don't thank others for it. Not that I'm saying that's the case in this particular thread, but it happens all too often. It's just good manners to (listen to and) thank people for their help, just as it is to introduce oneself when arriving in a new place.
I am so sorry my lord. I was off to the electronics mecca in search of a resolution.
I shan't cause you distress anymore.
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Old 22.06.2011, 07:55
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Would you buy a used car from this man?

I'm sure Chicago is a tough place to live, but things are a little bit more gentile here - it ain't Chicago. There are many differences - one of which is voltage.
So a bold and brash attitude that may have worked there, may not be appreciated in quite the same way here, by some of the people that you're hoping may be able to help you with your problem.

Unfortunately, despite what you believe, you're not unique on this forum. Many drive-by posters appear crying out for help, without a thought for following a few simple guidelines and courtesies - as outlined in the post from 22Yards, above - and disappear once they've got what they want, without another word.

I appreciate that finding your feet in a new location and situation isn't always easy, but if you play the game, and not fight it, then, hopefully things will work out just dandy.

For what is, in the main, a bunch of multi-national strangers, things seem to tick over quite effectively here.

Oh ..... and we have bears in CH, too.
Being honest and opening myself up to bashing, I've been here 2 weeks and I am a little frustrated. Trying to hard to be nice to everybody cuz "I'm in their world now". Some are nice and helpful, others are (use your own word here). I am a worker. That's what I do. So it is also hard to get into any kind of routine not having a routine. Just got my stuff from the states finally. Makes it easier but now you will be kicking my butt because I didn't hang around for responses but I got 149 pieces in an it's gonna take some time.
Peace!

BTW I fix em, I don't sell em. I am not a lowlife
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Old 22.06.2011, 07:55
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Welcome to the Forum John, hope you settle in OK. Try and get to some of the EF functions and meet the local yobbos. Also take a long look at the Sticky threads, there's some good information there!
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