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12.07.2011, 22:34
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| | Re: Cheques as a means of payment | Quote: | |  | | | And how is this a problem? 
Seems like a great way to do business, bill people AFTER they have received service!
Tom | | | | | I was responding to this post: Cheques as a means of payment
That post was talking about how it works here, and not knowing how it works in the UK. I was saying it is not the same in the UK, and to find that you can receive goods and services in Switzerland and pay later is often quite surprising to new residents from places like the UK. | 
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Wasn't the question what older people do without cheque books, like here...? | Quote: |  | | | But what do older people do in countries that don't use cheque books, like here for example? | | | | | I will Cpt. Obvious too, in our area they come to post office. Back home they come to post office, also with pink slips, it's uncanny how similar it is here and there. I doubt that many online bank, but who knows..
I think older people need to move around, despite how mean that sounds. Shopping and post office might be the only time they get out.
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12.07.2011, 22:41
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| | Re: Cheques as a means of payment | Quote: | |  | | |
I think older people need to move around, despite how mean that sounds. Shopping and post office might be the only time they get out.
| | | | | agree. It's nice that old folk here still have that option.
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| | Re: Cheques as a means of payment | Quote: | |  | | | Wasn't the question what older people do without cheque books, like here...? 
I will Cpt. Obvious too, in our area they come to post office. Back home they come to post office, also with pink slips, it's uncanney how similar it is here and there. I doubt that many online bank, but who knows..
I think older people need to move around, despite how mean that sounds. Shopping and post office might be the only time they get out. | | | | | It might be the only time they get out, but with no post office for miles, what do you suggest for the 95 year old who doesn't drive, have family close and there's no public transport?
Remember, the post was about in the UK, not in Switzerland or the Czech Republic.
ETA, I got it wrong. Oops. See below: Cheques as a means of payment
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12.07.2011, 22:47
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| | Re: Cheques as a means of payment | Quote: | |  | | |
Remember, the post was about in the UK, not in Switzerland or the Czech Republic.
| | | | | no, the post was "But what do older people do in countries that don't use cheque books"
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| | Re: Cheques as a means of payment | Quote: | |  | | | no, the post was "But what do older people do in countries that don't use cheque books" | | | | |
Apologies. I stuck with the original mention of the UK and then some of the ensuing discussion. She did open it up to other countries.
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| | Re: Cheques as a means of payment
I am now confused on my own thread | 
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| | Re: Cheques as a means of payment | Quote: | |  | | | I am now confused on my own thread  | | | | | My fault. I'm confusing tonight. I blame the wet fish.
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| | Re: Cheques as a means of payment | Quote: | |  | | | I was just reading this article which reports that the UK are no longer going to phase out cheque books as it would cause too many issues for older people (totally see that point as the older generation rely on cheque books back home) But what do older people do in countries that don't use cheque books, like here for example? | | | | | What makes this about UK? Here, meaning CH, no? Nicky's in CH, right? We don't have cheque books in CZ, either, so it is about here, no?
Ok, so I am confused, too. As are other posters, obviously.
I was pleasantly surprised how mobile older generation is here, while hiking at 2500m high I ran into an 80yr old man, who hiked up for a nice "little" walk, cca 12hrs, in his normal loafers, as well.
But I have an older neighbor, despite me offering doing shopping for her, etc. she is glad to get out, shopping, post office, cakes with coffee with her friends once every blue moon. I think it is healthier for older folks to dress up and walk to post office, as oppose to stay at home, at all times, and online bank.
I think people being far from post office plan a trip, by bus, once a month, or twice or so. Or family pays for them, maybe.
When I was in Alberta, no cheque books there, either. Credit cards. And a post office, that was also a gas station, shop, newsagent, bank, public payphone station, and god knows what else. But the folks who lived on the farm were so healthy, just the life there, in general, amount of exercise, that they somehow had to get to that one little multipurpose place, without thinking they can't.
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12.07.2011, 22:55
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| | Re: Cheques as a means of payment | Quote: | |  | | | no, the post was "But what do older people do in countries that don't use cheque books" | | | | | That's what I read as well.
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12.07.2011, 22:57
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| | Re: Cheques as a means of payment
People put cheques in birthday cards etc in the UK believing it's safer etc... There seems to be an issue and a nervousness having too much cash on them so the once a month trip to the bank to withdraw a wad of cash doesn't appeal
My gran is very frail. She struggles to walk to the shop each day let alone to the post office at the other end of the village. Lucky for her she has family close by but many don't and cheques seem to be their only and preferred method. I think they'll not be able to phase them out until the old old generation die out.
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12.07.2011, 23:00
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| | Re: Cheques as a means of payment | Quote: | |  | | | What makes this about UK? Here, meaning CH, no? Nicky's in CH, right? We don't have cheque books in CZ, either, so it is about here, no?
Ok, so I am confused, too. As are other posters, obviously. 
I was pleasantly surprised how mobile older generation is here, while hiking at 2500m high I ran into an 80yr old man, who hiked up for a nice "little" walk, cca 12hrs, in his normal loafers, as well.
But I have an older neighbor, despite me offering doing shopping for her, etc. she is glad to get out, shopping, post office, cakes with coffee with her friends once every blue moon. I think it is healthier for older folks to dress up and walk to post office, as oppose to stay at home, at all times, and online bank.
I think people being far from post office plan a trip, by bus, once a month, or twice or so. Or family pays for them, maybe.
When I was in Alberta, no cheque books there, either. Credit cards. And a post office, that was also a gas station, shop, newsagent, bank, public payphone station, and god knows what else. But the folks who lived on the farm were so healthy, just the life there, in general, amount of exercise, that they somehow had to get to that one little multipurpose place, without thinking they can't. | | | | | Yes, I used here since most of you are in Switzerland. I try to make it easy.
I know, I was a smidge confusing.  I've admitted it, thanks.
But the point about cheques or no cheques, not all elderly people are all that mobile.
My grandmother died a few years ago at just a few weeks shy of 98. Due to heart failure, swollen ankles, leukaemia and a few other things, she was nowhere near as mobile as she used to be. She lived with my father in rural South Carolina, where the nearest shop was about a 10 mile drive and no public transport. She gave up driving about 4 years or so before she died. She was extremely active, never sitting, until her illness got the better of her and then she was mostly housebound.
Had she not been living with my father, how would she have been able to get to far-away places? She was nowhere near ready for a care/nursing home, she was fine in her own apartment in my father's house.
Not everyone ages well, even those who used to climb mountains.
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| | Re: Cheques as a means of payment
So, don't use cash, use EC, Post Finance, etc.
I tell my parents in the US to NEVER send checks, the fees are too high, PayPal or Amazon (or other) gift certificates are a much better idea.
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I think internet banking, sending cash online is the answer. The problem is, when one sends a cheque, it is easier for older folks to write, than type and orientate onself in the mess of PC and techie stuff, clicking on things in panic, etc. and, most of all, it is really hard to read the screen, my eye problems of somebody being cca 30yr older concur. So...I don't really know. Being tight with family, I think, have them run your errands.
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| | Re: Cheques as a means of payment | Quote: | |  | | | So, don't use cash, use EC, Post Finance, etc.
I tell my parents in the US to NEVER send checks, the fees are too high, PayPal or Amazon (or other) gift certificates are a much better idea.
Tom | | | | | Ok so how does my gran send me a paypal payment? | 
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| | | Quote: | |  | | | Yes, I used here since most of you are in Switzerland. I try to make it easy.
I know, I was a smidge confusing. I've admitted it, thanks.
But the point about cheques or no cheques, not all elderly people are all that mobile.
My grandmother died a few years ago at just a few weeks shy of 98. Due to heart failure, swollen ankles, leukaemia and a few other things, she was nowhere near as mobile as she used to be. She lived with my father in rural South Carolina, where the nearest shop was about a 10 mile drive and no public transport. She gave up driving about 4 years or so before she died. She was extremely active, never sitting, until her illness got the better of her and then she was mostly housebound.
Had she not been living with my father, how would she have been able to get to far-away places? She was nowhere near ready for a care/nursing home, she was fine in her own apartment in my father's house.
Not everyone ages well, even those who used to climb mountains. | | | | | Yes, but why would she need to write checks?
My grandfather just turned 99. As he is legally blind, he CAN'T write checks, yet his bills get paid.
I fail to see the difference.
Tom | Quote: | |  | | | Ok so how does my gran send me a paypal payment?  | | | | | Umm, computer?
My grandmother died 6 years ago at 89, she had no problems using a computer, but that was in the US.
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| | Re: Cheques as a means of payment | Quote: | |  | | | Yes, but why would she need to write checks?
My grandfather just turned 99. As he is legally blind, he CAN'T write checks, yet his bills get paid.
I fail to see the difference.
Tom | | | | | So how does he pay his bills? Purpose of this thread is to answer the question
My gran does not have a computer does not have a bank local - she relies on writing cheques to pay bills or send as a gift etc... Tell me a suitable alternative for her?
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| | Re: Cheques as a means of payment | Quote: | |  | | | So how does he pay his bills? Purpose of this thread is to answer the question 
My gran does not have a computer does not have a bank local - she relies on writing cheques to pay bills or send as a gift etc... Tell me a suitable alternative for her? | | | | | Have someone else do it, works for most people.
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| | Re: Cheques as a means of payment | Quote: | |  | | | Umm, computer?
My grandmother died 6 years ago at 89, she had no problems using a computer, but that was in the US.
Tom | | | | | You are very antagonistic
She doesn't have a frickin computer and great that yours did but there is really no chance that she would ever be able to use one
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| | Re: Cheques as a means of payment
I pay for my New Scientist subscription via a little form that I complete my credit or debit card details and post off to the States. This seems like a good alternative to cheques - a cardholder not present. For security, the payer could include a phone number and time to call for a security check (if the amount is large, for example).
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