It's definitely not an easy thing to describe or define (I guess that's why I like prodding at it :P )
I just am yet to find someone who exhibits this 'confidence' who I can't break down to a simple arrogant fool within a few minutes.

because of this, I am happy to never be considered confident, as there's nothing in life which you can really be confident about.

One can be confident about the own choices in life.

Confidence is needed almost everywhere in life. Family, Business, Work, Friends, when traveling. Of course one is not always and in each situation confident, but in a way it shows that you feel completely ok in your skin.

Which is nice.

Over confident - ok that is something completely else and goes along arrogance.

Where confidence can be considered a quality, arrogance is definitely a fault.
Nevertheless why the desire to break anybody down to see if the confidence is genuine or is superficial arrogance ?
If somebody turns me off, I just walk away with a polite smile.

But isn't this a bit of a digression from the main topic of the OP ? (my fault)
We were talking about the fact that curvy women can be considered appealing and attractive.

I am still struggling with the term 'curvy'. Is it a euphamism for 'being slightly overweight' in this context? Many slim women are 'curvy' and attractive too ... Kelly Brook, for example.

A woman who is confident in her own shape, her own body and own personality is amazingly sexy...I genuinely think that Dawn French is one of the sexiest women around, not because I'd look twice in the street, but her "sass" and confidence is very attractive.

Whereas a skinny model-looking woman who constantly checks herself in the mirror and fishes for compliments leaves me cold every time

Dawn French is AWESOME!

Dawn French IS awesome - but if she was sat naked in front of you, gagging for it... would you actually do her?

For me, she's sort of like Jeremy Irons. I find him unbelievably sexy, quite the silver fox. However, if he said to me "let's do this thang" (which would be hilarious with his voice), I would turn him down for being old and wrinkly.

Forget curvy. The idea is that a woman can be attractive regardless of her weight. Women with more weight often have more curves...breasts, hips, backsides, legs. Now i suspect that many of you have an attractiveness threshold based on size, although it would be nice if we didn't judge based on size - goes for both ends of the spectrm.

I guess the other issue is that women larger than say a size 44 can wear clothing that is form fitting, somewhat revealing, etc etc. One isn't limited to the tent and shroud.

Dawn French is attractive, but it has less to do with her BMI than what's going on between her ears. Would i do her? She's not my type. (e.g., female). But if your largest sexual organ is your brain, then no reason she can't be sexy.

Dawn French a definite no (even if I were a man) ... Jeremy Irons, a definite yes!!

Speaking of the allure of the larger lady.....

HOT...no. Date her if she's interesting...certainly. I actually think "Dr. Stephanie Barnett" from Big Bang Theory looked more interesting before she lost those whatever twenty-some kgs.

I fully agree with Caleb.. she's perhaps very interesting but I don't find her attractive and for me it has nothing to do with her curvy physique but with the way she speaks.
sorry

I'm just watching Tina Turner on Arte, and she is HOT. She always has been.
Lot's of energy and personality. And she did not always have a smooth life.

Yes, gorgeous! Charismatic, passionate and confident (without the arrogance).

Big news, the first ever plus-size model in Vogue (Australian). So The editor says that when they started shooting her, "we quickly readjusted our preconceived notions of beauty". Apparently they had though that at this humongous jumbo size, a woman could not possibly be beautiful? Um..that's her, by the way:

What is plus sized classed as? She does not look very plus to me, gorgeous yes, but not really that big at all.

Wow she is now really 'Hot and Curvy'!

Robin Lawley - http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lk...1v6ro1_500.jpg

Link NSFW.

She's perhaps not skinny, as the average model, but she's only "curvy". Definitely not chubby. And very hot.

well she is AUS 16, I thin that's UK 14? And keep in mind, she's 182cm tall - I doubt she could be classed as chubby, overweight or plus-size in real world. So basically the story is that Vogue finally put a non-massively-underweight woman in a magazine! And can you imagine, she wasn't actually an ugly hippo like they first assumed! Sigh..

Considering that most models are size 2-4 (us), so this woman is like a 12 or 14. Maybe. Normal size, not plus, but it's an improvement to have a variation. Now if they could stop airbrushing and get models to look less vacant, a definite improvement.