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Even the most average Joe is treated like a king there.
To be honest, I'd hate that. Nothing worse than feeling like a Victorian traveller magnanimously bestowing trinkets upon the poor locals in return for grovelling and obsequious service.

I'd rather deal with some surly Swiss in Zurich than be part of that kind of service relationship.
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Old 28.07.2011, 12:19
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Re: Thailand: what's the attraction?

You should have posted this earlier.. before I booked my holiday tickets. :S
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Old 28.07.2011, 12:21
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To be honest, I'd hate that. Nothing worse than feeling like a Victorian traveller magnanimously bestowing trinkets upon the poor locals in return for grovelling and obsequious service.

I'd rather deal with some surly Swiss in Zurich than be part of that kind of service relationship.
It's a service culture, they don't feel like slaves, they take great pride in a job done well. They provide an excellent service and you pay them an excellent wage relative to any of their other options.
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Old 28.07.2011, 12:21
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Re: Thailand: what's the attraction?

I'm not a beach person (I get bored) but I still love Thailand. I've spent a few weeks, over a few trips, chilling in Chiang Mai up north.

Very relaxed, wonderful weather (I've only been in Jan or Feb - as it was combined with a Chinese NY trip to Singpaore each time) and it's wonderful to leave Europe at that time of year and arrive somewhere with blue skies, upper 20s temperature, very cheap food (restaurants, cafes, bars, market stalls - cheaper than big cities in China now), cheap beer and friendly people.

I could spend days walking around the markets.

I've spent a day each visit here:
http://www.thaicookeryschool.com/con...lasses-79.html
(was 900฿ but it still seems good value)

Learnt some techniques, and met some cool people from around the world.

I miss it. Want to go back. Will wait for Winter.
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Old 28.07.2011, 12:22
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The food, the floating market, the beaches, James bond island, checking out the ladyboys at Calypso, riding an elephant, seeing the temples, riding in a tuk-tuk, etc. The list goes on...

While it does take much effort to get there, you money will go farther than some other tropical places. And, it helps that Thailand is beautiful.
I totally agree with your statement. Unfortunately, the norm is quite different and sadly encouraged by these cheapo all-inclusive providers.
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Old 28.07.2011, 12:24
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Re: Thailand: what's the attraction?

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You misunderstand. The implication is that the service is good, not that they're living in poverty and hoping for you to throw a Swiss frank on the ground as you leave. They treat the locals just as well when they're out and spending. This isn't Singapore
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It's a service culture, they don't feel like slaves, they take great pride in a job done well. They provide an excellent service and you pay them an excellent wage relative to any of their other options.
I understand that, and have no quarrel with it, but it makes me feel uncomfortable.

To be honest, I've had the same feeling on the rare occasions when I've eaten in proper fancy restaurants. Flawless service makes me deeply uncomfortable.

I'm not sure I could cope with a fortnight of it...
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Old 28.07.2011, 12:26
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Re: Thailand: what's the attraction?

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I understand that, and have no quarrel with it, but it makes me feel uncomfortable.

To be honest, I've had the same feeling on the rare occasions when I've eaten in proper fancy restaurants. Flawless service makes me deeply uncomfortable.

I'm not sure I could cope with a fortnight of it...
Thailand is a place to learn to relax. Before you eat, try a full 90min massage for 12SFr. It will help melt away all that Western tension we tend to have.
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Re: Thailand: what's the attraction?

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I understand that, and have no quarrel with it, but it makes me feel uncomfortable.

To be honest, I've had the same feeling on the rare occasions when I've eaten in proper fancy restaurants. Flawless service makes me deeply uncomfortable.

I'm not sure I could cope with a fortnight of it...
DB... you should practice by getting plenty of pedicures. At least 2x per month.

Your spousal significant will be greatful for your tidy feet, and you'll get accustomed to relaxing and enjoying someone doing something for you.
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you'll get accustomed to relaxing and enjoying someone doing something for you.
I'm already accustomed to that.

Do you really think I make my own tea?
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Old 28.07.2011, 12:56
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They treat the locals just as well when they're out and spending. This isn't Singapore
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Old 28.07.2011, 13:02
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Re: Thailand: what's the attraction?

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There's much more to Spain than Malaga you know.

I believe you can find fascinating things in virtually every country.

In Spain though it's easier than in many other countries.
Read the thread - it was a direct answer to a direct statement:

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More than the price of a flight to Malaga or Athens.
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Old 28.07.2011, 14:18
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Re: Thailand: what's the attraction?

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This question is entirely hypothetical, as I'll never be able to afford to go there, but I'm just curious: why is Thailand so popular as a holiday destination?
Because it is amazing.

Depends though how much time you have for your holiday, and how flexible you are to compromise with 'comfort', the more you will be able to experience.

Thailand has a very rich, and old culture, so there's a lot interesting things to learn about its history and religion - and plenty of ancient temples, palaces and other historical sights to visit.
You can do some jungle trekking and explore mountain villages and tribes in rural areas, visit temples in the north.
Or have some relaxing days at the beach with great seafood...

If you have the time, then I would recommend a several weeks tour of Indochine. Thailand is great, but the neighbouring countries, Laos and Myanmar are less touched, and even more interesting.













The paedo/sex tourism is a problem, but if you avoid the known places like Pattaya, Patong, some places in Bangkok etc. you shouldn't have to see that.
In the country side this sort of things don't exist.

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This question is entirely hypothetical, as I'll never be able to afford to go there, but I'm just curious:
Unless you book a 5 star holiday package with Kuoni or Imholz, Thailand is very cheap.
The flights are a bit expensive, but if you book in advance you can get some deals. Accomodation is very cheap if you book it there; a simple, but nice cottage at the beach is around CHF 15 - 20/night.
Some accommodation starts at around 2 CHF...
Food is out of this world, and also very cheap. Same for transportation, etc.


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Old 28.07.2011, 14:34
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It's a service culture, they don't feel like slaves, they take great pride in a job done well. They provide an excellent service and you pay them an excellent wage relative to any of their other options.
Agreed!

I lived in Penang, north Malaysia from 1967 to 1970, and to many people the innocence of the Asians is very pleasing. They genuinely like to help and serve you, it is in their nature. My cousin married an Indonesian diplomat's daughter (i.e. well educated) and he was continually advising me to do the same.

I firmly believe that many Europeans go to Asia (Non tourist places) to enjoy the different way of life, and sometimes come back with a new wife. Many Swiss ladies famously go to Kenya for similar reasons.

I agree some disgusting people go there for homo and child prostitution.
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I agree some disgusting people go there for homo and child prostitution.
Cambodia is a hotspot for that.
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In conclusion, I don't think I'll ever go to Thailand - it doesn't sound like either my or MN's cup of tea at all - but I certainly understand the attraction for other people after reading this thread.

Thanks again for your responses. It has been very interesting.
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Old 28.07.2011, 14:43
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Re: Thailand: what's the attraction?

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In conclusion, I don't think I'll ever go to Thailand - it doesn't sound like either my or MN's cup of tea at all - but I certainly understand the attraction for other people after reading this thread.

Thanks again for your responses. It has been very interesting.
oh I dont know - MathNut loves SE Asian food. The food in Thailand will definitely tempt her.

Dont do beach holidays like the usual crowd does - there are alternatives to exploring that amazing country full of culture and traditions. Fun fact: as Thailand is the only country in SE Asia that has never been colonised/invaded by war, their culture/history is so rich and untainted with zero western influences that its so fascinating.
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Old 28.07.2011, 14:46
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Re: Thailand: what's the attraction?

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In conclusion, I don't think I'll ever go to Thailand - it doesn't sound like either my or MN's cup of tea at all - but I certainly understand the attraction for other people after reading this thread.
What were you expecting? Herds of wildebeest? The hanging gardens of Babylon?
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Old 28.07.2011, 14:48
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Re: Thailand: what's the attraction?

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In conclusion, I don't think I'll ever go to Thailand - it doesn't sound like either my or MN's cup of tea at all - but I certainly understand the attraction for other people after reading this thread.

Thanks again for your responses. It has been very interesting.
While I believe to understand some of your points, bear in mind that going to a new destination does have a few very good points.. first, you get to see a place that you haven't set foot in before - this feeling alone justifies a many holidays and destinations!
Plus, it helps to overcome preconceived notions (good or bad) about said places and help you build your own opinion - based on (some) facts!

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Old 28.07.2011, 14:52
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Fun fact: as Thailand is the only country in SE Asia that has never been colonised/invaded by war, their culture/history is so rich and untainted with zero western influences that its so fascinating.
True, but methinks DB prefers countries with a lot more than zero western influence.
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