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Re: Two questions for English speakers

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I would too - simply because, in the first instance, fruit is a collective noun or group; and in the second instance, fruits is being used in the context of a "group of such groups".


Similarly, my list of all the peoples in the world that I have never met is significantly shorter than my list of all the people in the world that I have never met.
Shouldn't you be occupied with your pig?
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Old 02.08.2011, 12:27
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I would too - simply because, in the first instance, fruit is a collective noun or group; and in the second instance, fruits is being used in the context of a "group of such groups".


Similarly, my list of all the peoples in the world that I have never met is significantly shorter than my list of all the people in the world that I have never met.
good example.
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Old 02.08.2011, 16:38
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Re: Two questions for English speakers

Thank you all for the answers.
My tentative conclusion is as follows: fruit is uncountable when used as a food item (I had some fruit; fruit is healthy., etc.)

It is countable, when used as a species or a kind, i.e. a representative of a certain group (The Hebrew Bible (TANAKH) describes Israel as a land blessed with seven fruits and grains).
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Re: Two questions for English speakers

Can I ask you guys another question.

What's wrong with the word ain't and why ain't it right to use it?

Also, what's the difference between:
I like this song
I like that song

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Re: Two questions for English speakers

Have you tried englishforum.com?
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Re: Two questions for English speakers

Monologue 1:

ThomasT: Iím listening to I May Be Used (But Baby I Ainít Used Up). I like this song.

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Sagitta: What are you listening to?
ThomasT: I May Be Used (But Baby I Ainít Used Up).
Sagitta: I like that song.
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Re: Two questions for English speakers

I do love Waylon Jennings :-) Thanks
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Can I ask you guys another question.

What's wrong with the word ain't and why ain't it right to use it?

Also, what's the difference between:
I like this song
I like that song

Thanks
"ain't"
this is just American slang..... it's not a real word, it's a colloquialism

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I Like this song
I Like that song

hmmmmmmm..... good one


the difference between THIS and THAT

I just read both of these and still don't know.

As far as I know, they are completely interchangable.

You can use either in a sentance for a single use to identify something.

Using them both in a sentace is used to differentiate two objects in a multiple of options.
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Can I ask you guys another question.

What's wrong with the word ain't and why ain't it right to use it?

Also, what's the difference between:
I like this song
I like that song

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I do like Ain't no sunshine when she's gone - and
Ain't misbehavin.

I like this 'ere song and I like that there song too
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Re: Two questions for English speakers

Itís very hard to define a set of rules for this and that, but these pronouns are not interchangeable. I think their usage depends heavily on the context: itís hard to discuss them in abstract terms without specific examples.
However, they always carry the notion of distance (that) and proximity (this), which I tried to show with the silly dialogue.
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Itís very hard to define a set of rules for this and that, but these pronouns are not interchangeable. I think their usage depends heavily on the context: itís hard to discuss them in abstract terms without specific examples.
However, they always carry the notion of distance (that) and proximity (this), which I tried to show with the silly dialogue.
My God, I love this linguistic stuff. I might get carried away.
As I said before, English is not my native language, but I spend hours studying it.
You sure ain't too bad at it either. In fact you're quite exceptionally erudite.
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English question from an Englishman

Here's a question for which I can't seem to get a definitive answer online

If you write an abbreviation for which the first letter is a consonant, but sounds as if it starts with a vowel.....do you use "a" or "an"?

For example....is it A FMCG company or AN FMCG company? A MP or AN MP?
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Re: English question from an Englishman

It would depend if the consonant (abbreviation or not, regardless) is pronounced like a vowel.

An MP (Emm)
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It would depend if the consonant (abbreviation or not, regardless) is pronounced like a vowel.

An MP (Emm)
Thats what I THINK, but is it fact, or just because it sounds right?
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Thats what I THINK, but is it fact, or just because it sounds right?
It's a phonetic 'rule' so, yes, if the first letter of the acronym sounds like a vowel, use 'an'. In both cases, though, I'd use 'a' instead of 'an', particularly with 'MP' as 'an MP' is a wordy mouthful.
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Old 22.10.2011, 12:20
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Re: English question from an Englishman

An European??
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Re: English question from an Englishman

a university ?
an MP ?
...... damn, now I'm going to think about this and will never find the right answer ever again !
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An European??
No, because when spoken it sounds like it starts with a "Y". Edit: same for "a university".
But, for a member of the European parliament, I would write "an MEP".

Along similar lines... "a hotel" or "an hotel" ?
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Old 22.10.2011, 12:25
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Along similar lines... "a hotel" or "an hotel" ?
That's more clear.....that's just a fact which is often not followed
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It's a phonetic 'rule' so, yes, if the first letter of the acronym sounds like a vowel, use 'an'. In both cases, though, I'd use 'a' instead of 'an', particularly with 'MP' as 'an MP' is a wordy mouthful.
You'd say "a MP"? Really? If the "a" is hard, is sounds weird
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