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02.08.2011, 12:16
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| | Re: Two questions for English speakers | Quote: | |  | | | I would too - simply because, in the first instance, fruit is a collective noun or group; and in the second instance, fruits is being used in the context of a "group of such groups".
Similarly, my list of all the peoples in the world that I have never met is significantly shorter than my list of all the people in the world that I have never met. | | | | | Shouldn't you be occupied with your pig? | 
02.08.2011, 12:27
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| | Re: Two questions for English speakers | Quote: | |  | | | I would too - simply because, in the first instance, fruit is a collective noun or group; and in the second instance, fruits is being used in the context of a "group of such groups".
Similarly, my list of all the peoples in the world that I have never met is significantly shorter than my list of all the people in the world that I have never met. | | | | | good example. | 
02.08.2011, 16:38
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| | Re: Two questions for English speakers
Thank you all for the answers.
My tentative conclusion is as follows: fruit is uncountable when used as a food item (I had some fruit; fruit is healthy., etc.)
It is countable, when used as a species or a kind, i.e. a representative of a certain group (The Hebrew Bible (TANAKH) describes Israel as a land blessed with seven fruits and grains).
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02.08.2011, 17:00
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| | Re: Two questions for English speakers
Can I ask you guys another question.
What's wrong with the word ain't and why ain't it right to use it?
Also, what's the difference between:
I like this song
I like that song
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02.08.2011, 17:02
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| | Re: Two questions for English speakers
Have you tried englishforum.com?
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02.08.2011, 17:08
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| | Re: Two questions for English speakers
Monologue 1:
ThomasT: I’m listening to I May Be Used (But Baby I Ain’t Used Up). I like this song.
Dialogue 1:
Sagitta: What are you listening to?
ThomasT: I May Be Used (But Baby I Ain’t Used Up).
Sagitta: I like that song.
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02.08.2011, 17:10
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| | Re: Two questions for English speakers
I do love Waylon Jennings :-) Thanks
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02.08.2011, 17:15
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| | Re: Two questions for English speakers | Quote: | |  | | | Can I ask you guys another question.
What's wrong with the word ain't and why ain't it right to use it?
Also, what's the difference between:
I like this song
I like that song
Thanks  | | | | | "ain't"
this is just American slang..... it's not a real word, it's a colloquialism
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I Like this song
I Like that song
hmmmmmmm..... good one
the difference between THIS and THAT
I just read both of these and still don't know.
As far as I know, they are completely interchangable.
You can use either in a sentance for a single use to identify something.
Using them both in a sentace is used to differentiate two objects in a multiple of options.
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02.08.2011, 17:23
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| | Re: Two questions for English speakers | Quote: | |  | | | Can I ask you guys another question.
What's wrong with the word ain't and why ain't it right to use it?
Also, what's the difference between:
I like this song
I like that song
Thanks  | | | | | I do like Ain't no sunshine when she's gone - and
Ain't misbehavin.
I like this 'ere song and I like that there song too  | 
02.08.2011, 17:29
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It’s very hard to define a set of rules for this and that, but these pronouns are not interchangeable. I think their usage depends heavily on the context: it’s hard to discuss them in abstract terms without specific examples.
However, they always carry the notion of distance (that) and proximity (this), which I tried to show with the silly dialogue.
My God, I love this linguistic stuff. I might get carried away.
As I said before, English is not my native language, but I spend hours studying it.
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02.08.2011, 17:35
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| | Re: Two questions for English speakers | Quote: | |  | | | It’s very hard to define a set of rules for this and that, but these pronouns are not interchangeable. I think their usage depends heavily on the context: it’s hard to discuss them in abstract terms without specific examples.
However, they always carry the notion of distance (that) and proximity (this), which I tried to show with the silly dialogue.
My God, I love this linguistic stuff. I might get carried away.
As I said before, English is not my native language, but I spend hours studying it. | | | | | You sure ain't too bad at it either.  In fact you're quite exceptionally erudite.
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22.10.2011, 10:43
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Here's a question for which I can't seem to get a definitive answer online
If you write an abbreviation for which the first letter is a consonant, but sounds as if it starts with a vowel.....do you use "a" or "an"?
For example....is it A FMCG company or AN FMCG company? A MP or AN MP?
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22.10.2011, 10:46
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| | Re: English question from an Englishman
It would depend if the consonant (abbreviation or not, regardless) is pronounced like a vowel.
An MP (Emm)
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22.10.2011, 12:02
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| | Re: English question from an Englishman | Quote: | |  | | | It would depend if the consonant (abbreviation or not, regardless) is pronounced like a vowel.
An MP (Emm) | | | | | Thats what I THINK, but is it fact, or just because it sounds right?
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22.10.2011, 12:10
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| | Re: English question from an Englishman | Quote: | |  | | | Thats what I THINK, but is it fact, or just because it sounds right? | | | | | It's a phonetic 'rule' so, yes, if the first letter of the acronym sounds like a vowel, use 'an'. In both cases, though, I'd use 'a' instead of 'an', particularly with 'MP' as 'an MP' is a wordy mouthful.
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22.10.2011, 12:20
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| | Re: English question from an Englishman
An European??
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22.10.2011, 12:22
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| | Re: English question from an Englishman
a university ?
an MP ? ...... damn, now I'm going to think about this and will never find the right answer ever again ! | 
22.10.2011, 12:22
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| | Re: English question from an Englishman | Quote: | |  | | | An European?? | | | | | No, because when spoken it sounds like it starts with a "Y". Edit: same for "a university".
But, for a member of the European parliament, I would write "an MEP".
Along similar lines... "a hotel" or "an hotel" ?
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22.10.2011, 12:25
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| | Re: English question from an Englishman | Quote: | |  | | |
Along similar lines... "a hotel" or "an hotel" ?
| | | | | That's more clear.....that's just a fact which is often not followed | 
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| | Re: English question from an Englishman | Quote: | |  | | | It's a phonetic 'rule' so, yes, if the first letter of the acronym sounds like a vowel, use 'an'. In both cases, though, I'd use 'a' instead of 'an', particularly with 'MP' as 'an MP' is a wordy mouthful. | | | | | You'd say "a MP"? Really? If the "a" is hard, is sounds weird
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