Chäschüechli - Page 2

ceppych · #21 10.08.2011, 15:17

	Quote:	jetset
	drucken vs. drücken Drives me batty since I use one or both of these words on a daily basis. I started private German lessons last week and mentioned my difficulty. She said 60-70% of her English-speaking students struggle with this. Moreover, it's not just that they can't get the right sounds out, but that they don't even hear the difference when they're pronounced . Unfortunately, I think I'm in that class because usually it sounds like my husband is just saying the same word twice when he tries to help me. Along those lines are also schwul and schwül, but I can survive a typical day without saying either.

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prof. taratonga · #22 10.08.2011, 15:24

	Quote:	weejeem
	Try telling people where you live "Ich wohne z Züri." (and don't forget to pronounce both of the implicit "t"s in the "Z"s )

Better one with more "z":

Es sträzt z'Züri

KeinFranzösisch · #23 10.08.2011, 16:39

	Quote:	jetset
	drucken vs. drücken Drives me batty since I use one or both of these words on a daily basis. I started private German lessons last week and mentioned my difficulty. She said 60-70% of her English-speaking students struggle with this. Moreover, it's not just that they can't get the right sounds out, but that they don't even hear the difference when they're pronounced . Unfortunately, I think I'm in that class because usually it sounds like my husband is just saying the same word twice when he tries to help me. Along those lines are also schwul and schwül, but I can survive a typical day without saying either.

push the ü through your nose.

axewoman · #24 10.08.2011, 17:20

Welsh people don't have problems with 'ch', as number six in Welsh is chwech. But English speakers have issues with the 'll' sound in Welsh. Eg, "Llanelli". You have to put the tip of your tongue in the roof of your mouth and blow air out the sides.
The German ü sound is a real swine, I agree. I just think of Frankie Howerd and his "OO-er, Missus!" That helps.

Faltrad · #25 10.08.2011, 19:00

	Quote:	SwissAstrid
	Luckily for me , being Dutch, the (S)ch sounds are not the problem, I just find it hard to find the logic in some of the words compared to High German.

Ask your questions here, that is a very good topic.

At beginning of the word, High German k- becomes kch- or ch- in Swiss German.
In the middle of the word, both High and Swiss German has -ch- anyway.
High German -ch- can be soft of hard, weather Swiss German -ch- is always hard.

Just a trick: Usually, Dutch k will be -ch- in Swiss German and Dutch -ch- or -g- will be -k- in Swiss German.
buik = buuch
leggen = legge (pronounced läkke)
(only case both Dutch and Swiss German have -ch- are old 1st Germanic shift in a few words like lachen or a special shift of -ng in front of -t like in gebracht/procht, brocht, bracht).