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Question to the Indian ladies (or maybe gentlemen)

This is not associated to Switzerland itself, but since I have noticed a couple of active Indian ladies in the EF, I thought someone could probably help me out.

When I was in India, I lost my head and brought home a fine sample of a gorgeous piece of Indian art: a silk saari. I did make some pictures inside it, but the objective was not to wear it but to hang it on the wall because it is just that beautiful.

I am having a little difficulty handling it, though. It is made of silk with embroided gold thread. I am so afraid of ruining it, I have no idea how I could get rid of the creases. It looks like a mess inside the frame at the moment, and I would like it to have a more dignified look.

Since the ladies I saw in India had all their saaris in an impecable state, what is the trick? Can I actually iron it without ruining it? Should I do it while wet?

Help?

Thank you for your tips! ^^
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Re: Question to the Indian ladies (or maybe gentlemen)

I'm not Indian, but deal with fabric a fair amount.
Is it possible for you to 'steam' the silk without actually letting the iron touch the fabric?
With my iron I can apply jets of steam vapour, not jets of water, and this works well.
You could also put a damp cloth on top of the wrong side of the silk and iron very gently with the iron set on 'silk' or at least very cool.
Maybe someone else has a better idea.
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Old 17.08.2011, 20:21
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Re: Question to the Indian ladies (or maybe gentlemen)

Why don't you put some thin cloth on top of it and then press it? That way you don't touch the fabric directly and it shouldn't damage it. I wouldn't press it with too warm an iron though... keep it medium-low.
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Old 17.08.2011, 20:23
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You could also put a damp cloth on top of the wrong side of the silk and iron very gently with the iron set on 'silk' or at least very cool.
I tried that one on a edge (mommy's advice) but the creases just didn't disappear. I guess it was folded for quite a while like that in the store... I thought about dipping it in water and let it air dry, but the cloth is 8 meters long... I have no way to get it hanging without damaging the delicate tissue... And I'm not totally sure I'd be able to fold it back together and fit it inside the frame again... The silk is slippery...

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Why don't you put some thin cloth on top of it and then press it? That way you don't touch the fabric directly and it shouldn't damage it. I wouldn't press it with too warm an iron though... keep it medium-low.
I tried that. Unfortunatelly it didn't help much. The saari was folded in a tiny thing (I was amazed at the quantity of tissue inside when I opened it) when I bought it (you can see another piece I still keep it's original packing on the attachment). It was gorgeous to transport, but it's a pain to get rid of the creases... This purple one has some cotton in the mix so was easier to iron...
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Re: Question to the Indian ladies (or maybe gentlemen)

just take it to a dry cleaners and ask them to press it for you. I am quite sure they know how to handle silk fabrics. Then fold it again once you are done and put it back in the frame (easier said than done).

Does it have glass in front ? If not, I would suggest putting some polyester batting behind it (wadding in sheets) to give it some body, and then upholster it into the frame, but you will need to secure it somehow and that is going to mean putting pins or sewing it behind, which is going to sacrifice the fabric...
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Old 17.08.2011, 20:35
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just take it to a dry cleaners and ask them to press it for you. I am quite sure they know how to handle silk fabrics. Then fold it again once you are done and put it back in the frame (easier said than done).

Does it have glass in front ? If not, I would suggest putting some polyester batting behind it (wadding in sheets) to give it some body, and then upholster it into the frame, but you will need to secure it somehow and that is going to mean putting pins or sewing it behind, which is going to sacrifice the fabric...
I used a big IKEA frame. There is a "glass" (it's actually plastic...) in front, and the common MDF board behind. I used a thick paper to give some body, but it is haging on its own gravity atm. I actually believe the creases are helping it to hold on inside the frame, which might be a bitch if I manage to get them out... >.<

I hadn't thought about the dry cleaner. My only fear is if the size of the cloth might present a problem. I can try to ask the cleaner next to my work tomorrow!




P.S.: I can't thank in the Off-topic thread, so consider yourselves with an extra thumbs up ^^ Thanks for the tips!
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Old 17.08.2011, 20:39
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Re: Question to the Indian ladies (or maybe gentlemen)

I bought a sari on my honeymoon in India and wear it for my anniversary when my husband and I go out for a curry A good dry cleaners can handle it, no problem. I've only had issues with one complaining over the last 9 years.
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Re: Question to the Indian ladies (or maybe gentlemen)

So the usually the trick is what you were referring to previously, the fact that these woman naturally wash it in a bucket/wash device and let the long piece of fabric hang out to dry in the sun which causes the creases to disappear.

Alternatively if you'd like to spend some cash-o-la, the steam press irons work really well in getting out creases and such and they are gentle on fabric...

http://www.okokchina.com/Files/uppic...%20Iron824.jpg

It's what the cleaners will use, but more than likely a much bigger one - if you buy one, you'll have to steam press, adjust, steam press, adjust, steam press...well you get the point.

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Re: Question to the Indian ladies (or maybe gentlemen)

so it looks like my pic was uploaded incorrectly and can't go back and edit for some reason...

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Re: Question to the Indian ladies (or maybe gentlemen)

I am an Indian who wears silk sarees often. The folds I see in your picture is normally the case when you buy the saree from a shop. NEVER EVER wash you silk saree in a bucket of water. You will ruin it. Period.

Lay the saree flat on an iron board, place another cotton cloth over it and use medium heat to press the creases gently several times. Do one half of the saree first, and then the rest.

Or use very low to medium heat and press directly on the crease without using a cotton cloth. Make sure u do one patch of the saree at a time. Give it 2 mins to cool off before u move on to the next patch. You might see a slight change in the color of the saree but once it cools off, it gets its original color back. Do not use steam nor ironing spray aids.
Let me know if it works.
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Re: Question to the Indian ladies (or maybe gentlemen)

I used to iron my sarees using a normal iron box,just have to spread it in one layer and adjust the temperature,or else spread a newspaper over the saree and then iron it...thats what i have been doing ....
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I am an Indian who wears silk sarees often. The folds I see in your picture is normally the case when you buy the saree from a shop. NEVER EVER wash you silk saree in a bucket of water. You will ruin it. Period.

http://www.sarishop.com/saritlc.html

Not saying your wrong...but how else shall people clean a silk saree without the means to dry cleaning? Anyways, we now resume you back to the topic...
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Re: Question to the Indian ladies (or maybe gentlemen)

Thank you very much for all the tips, girls!

If you allow me to be candid, I wish I was Indian just to be able to wear a saari without having the whole world reproving me. They are the most beautiful piece of clothing I know!

If not for the beautiful cities and architecture, my trip to India was worth being among so many beautiful women in beautiful dresses! (that's why I spent a little bit too much on the saari store... )

I'll try out all the tips again this weekend, and let you know the outcome!
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Re: Question to the Indian ladies (or maybe gentlemen)

i would like to add one more point to this thread.

Once in a while plz allow the silk saree to inhale some fresh air .Better hang the saree in a shady place(fold able position is also fine).

Dont ever wash the silk saree.The chemicals in the washing powder would harm the quality of the silk saree.Its better to press the saree with the help of some soft cloth over the silk saree.(or u can also fold it well as u like and put it below some weightful object ,so tht u can prevent the heat on the silk )

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Re: Question to the Indian ladies (or maybe gentlemen)

Hi

I just follwed this thread out of curiosity and i think my indian friends are giving u superb tips, all i wanted to say is thanks for appreciating and taking pains to understand and value our indian heritage...even if it is just a saree, your passion is truly admirable...in these modern days so many young indians may smirk at the thought of buying forget wearing a saree and here u are taking so much trouble to understand the finer aspects.

Kudos my friend...wish u many more travels to explore the diversity that lies in many cultures.
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Re: Question to the Indian ladies (or maybe gentlemen)

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Not saying your wrong...but how else shall people clean a silk saree without the means to dry cleaning? Anyways, we now resume you back to the topic...
Neither am I saying not to dry clean. But it is better NOT to dip in a bucket of water. That will just ruin it.
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i would like to add one more point to this thread.

Once in a while plz allow the silk saree to inhale some fresh air .Better hang the saree in a shady place(fold able position is also fine).
Absoultely agree. I just hung out mine last month in a room with windows open. I didnt want to expose it to the sun completely.
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Re: Question to the Indian ladies (or maybe gentlemen)

I specifically chose the wall of the corridor which is completely shaded. Since the silk is dyed indigo blue, almost black, I was already guessing it quite an easy target for long exposure to the sun.


I might take a look at IKEA again though... I need a bigger frame. But I really want to avoid going to a frame shop here... (they asked me 250 CHF for a normal A3 sized, normal glass, simple wooden frame. Same thing costed 25 CHF in IKEA).


I'm looking forward for my weekend testing! Just don't want to do it on a hurry, half asleep, during the working days evening. I would be prone to ruin it... <.<
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Re: Question to the Indian ladies (or maybe gentlemen)

I'd like to thank all the ladies for their useful advice! I tried out this weekend. I got, as expected, a bit into panic when the black silk changed a bit of colour while ironing, but as soon as it got back to its original colour, after cooling down, all was well.

Silk turned quite well. Still having problems with the golden thread though. I probably need to turn the temperature a bit up. Since I'm a pansy, I didn't want to push my luck any further on this try.

Going to buy a new frame for the saari and try it then to iron the golden thread a bit better.

Thanks again for your friendly notes!
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Re: Question to the Indian ladies (or maybe gentlemen)

I am a kiwi Indian & slowly turning Swiss -I visit my boyfriend's family so many times. Next time I'm there Ill show you how to wear it if you're interested
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