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Old 30.08.2011, 11:12
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Yes, but are IBM going to be able to do it again this time. Previous success is no guarantee of future success. My money is on the fact that they will never retain any semblance of what they were in their heydays.
IBM today
IBM’s performance in 2010 is indicative both of our
high-value market position and of the discipline we
apply to our strategy and operations. Since 2002,
we have added $14 billion to IBM’s pre-tax profit base,
increased our pre-tax income 3.4 times, our earnings
per share 4.7 times and our free cash flow 2.8 times.
Cumulatively, we have generated about $96 billion of
free cash flow.
Our strong 2010 continued this record of superior
performance:
Revenue and income: Our revenue was $99.9 billion,
up 4 percent. In 2010 we grew pre-tax income by
9 percent, to $19.7 billion, our highest ever.
Margins: IBM’s gross profit margin rose for the
seventh consecutive year—to 46.1 percent, up
9.4 points since 2002. Our pre-tax income margin rose
to 19.7 percent. Both margins are at their highest
in more than a decade. We achieved this by driving
productivity and continuing to shift our business
mix to more profitable segments. Once again, more
than 90 percent of our segment profit in 2010 was
from software, services and financing.
Earnings per share: We have continued to achieve
strong EPS growth. Last year was another record,
with diluted earnings per share of $11.52, up
15 percent. This marked eight straight years of
double-digit EPS growth.
Cash flow: IBM has consistently generated strong
cash flow, a key indicator of real business performance.
In 2010 our free cash flow, excluding the year-toyear
change in Global Financing receivables, was
$16.3 billion, an increase of $1.2 billion from 2009.
IBM ended 2010 with $11.7 billion of cash and
marketable securities.
Investment and return to shareholders: Our superior
cash flow has enabled us to invest in the business and
to generate substantial returns to investors. Our 2010
cash investment was $6 billion for 17 acquisitions—
13 of them in key areas of software. After investing
$6 billion in R&D and $4 billion in net capital expenditures,
we were able to return more than $18 billion
to you—$15.4 billion through share repurchases and
$3.2 billion through dividends. Last year’s dividend
increase was 18 percent, marking the 15th year in a row
in which we have raised our dividend. Over the past
decade, we have returned $107 billion to you in the form
of dividends and share repurchases, while investing
$70 billion in capital expenditures and acquisitions,
and almost $60 billion in R&D.
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Old 30.08.2011, 12:32
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IBM’s performance in 2010 is indicative both of our high-value market position and of the discipline we apply to our strategy and operations...

(blah blah blah blah)

...Over the past decade, we have returned $107 billion to you in the form
of dividends and share repurchases, while investing $70 billion in capital expenditures and acquisitions, and almost $60 billion in R&D.
I smells me a company getting rich off service contracts, patents, intellectual property and not much else. Nothing like the days when their R&D budget was more than Microsoft's turnover. Nothing like the days when every second article in Nature or New Scientist was somehow linked with IBM. Nothing like the days when they would build the world's fastest computers and get them to play chess for fun.

Sorry but IBM are past their innovating days in my eyes. They have aged into a graceful retirement where they can live comfortably off what they built in the past. This is my view and financial figures will not change it, only the ground-breaking, earth shattering innovation that they once held close to their hearts could move them forward in my head.
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Old 30.08.2011, 12:43
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I smells me a company getting rich off service contracts, patents, intellectual property and not much else. Nothing like the days when their R&D budget was more than Microsoft's turnover. Nothing like the days when every second article in Nature or New Scientist was somehow linked with IBM. Nothing like the days when they would build the world's fastest computers and get them to play chess for fun.

Sorry but IBM are past their innovating days in my eyes. They have aged into a graceful retirement where they can live comfortably off what they built in the past. This is my view and financial figures will not change it, only the ground-breaking, earth shattering innovation that they once held close to their hearts could move them forward in my head.
strange you think that way. i think IBM are a very innovative company and have come out with lots of interesting stuff and do lots of research. maybe it's just that you're not aware of what they are doing/have done. and chess is so last decade:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFR3lOm_xhE
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There you are, that is the correct tense......not ARE which is what I would like to see. Perhaps they will provide me wrong. Perhaps not.

Can you mention anything particularly ground breaking that they are doing at the moment other than sharpening thier atomic microscopes?
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Can you mention anything particularly ground breaking that they are doing at the moment other than sharpening thier atomic microscopes?
My favourite at the moment is micro-FE simulation of human bone, with the aim of producing a clinical tool for early diagnosis of osteoporosis.
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Old 30.08.2011, 13:16
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micro-FE simulation of human bone
While I agree that this is very useful work and indeed leading edge, I would not classify it as bleeding edge and the work itself is more about sharpening imaging techniques, improving algorithms and fine tuning the electron microscopes.

It is just building a better mousetrap.

What I would like to see is some effort to communicate with the mice, and failing that, perhaps just a good recipe for cooking the little blighters.
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There you are, that is the correct tense......not ARE which is what I would like to see. Perhaps they will provide me wrong. Perhaps not.

Can you mention anything particularly ground breaking that they are doing at the moment other than sharpening thier atomic microscopes?
loads of stuff. check out the youtube link in my example. their process technology or one of their many thousands of patents they produce each year. (i think they probably have produced more patents than any other company in the last decade).
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While I agree that this is very useful work and indeed leading edge, I would not classify it as bleeding edge and the work itself is more about sharpening imaging techniques, improving algorithms and fine tuning the electron microscopes.

It is just building a better mousetrap.
Complete and utter claptrap - you should go find out what FE is.
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Old 30.08.2011, 13:27
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loads of stuff. check out the youtube link in my example. their process technology or one of their many thousands of patents they produce each year. (i think they probably have produced more patents than any other company in the last decade).
Sorry, I mentioned patents as one of the reasons that I don't find them progressive.

The Jeopardy example is just better algorithms and I don't really think itis really a special achievement. It is not like the computer actually destroyedthe competition. I was clearly faster but the recognition was not quite as goodas it needed to be. As one commenter on the video mentioned....perhaps theycould have taught it to smack talk a bit.

Seriously though, cutting edge AI this is not. Sorry. The work being done at CERN, MIT and many other organisations is much more impressive.
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Complete and utter claptrap - you should go find out what FE is.
I thought that "Extreme Scalability Challenges in Micro-Finite Element Simulations of Human Bone" by C. Bekas and A. Curioni was a fair veiw of the current situation. From a read through the article I found the following comment which started the basis for my initial responce.

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Coupling recent imaging capabilities with microstructural finite element (microFE) analysis offers a powerful tool to determine bone stiffness and strength.
This seemed to indicate that recent imaging improvements and new algorithms to do microstructural finite element analysis had been developed and aided the determination of bone stiffness and strength. If I am wrong it is due to the fact that I am not a specialist in this area and I am more than happy to be techically corrected rather than "clattrapped".

This was all wrapped up quite nicely at the end of the article by:

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algorithms and efficient mapping models.
So, more speed is needed and the underlying architectures need to be examined to create more progress. Once again, if I am wrong it is because this is hardly my direct area of expertise.
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Re: HP kills of WebOS devices and wants to get rid of PCs as well

The US Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) granted 5,896 patents to IBM in the year 2010, making the company the highest number of patents holder again. IBM has been leading the pack in winning patents for the past 18 years and this year it also became the first company to surpass the 5,000 patent mark.
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Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer says his company will spend $9.5 billion on R&D this year. That's almost 50% more than IBM's $6.5 billion, and it's more than the combined R&D spending of IBM and either Oracle ($2.7 billion) or Google ($2.8 billion). And almost nine times as much as Apple's $1.1 billion
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Re: HP kills of WebOS devices and wants to get rid of PCs as well

I think you are forgetting the big picture.

HP sells Hardware business for let say 10 billion.

And Oracle buys HP and reinvent the join venture as a big Software/Server company.

To me is evident. HP is preparing to be bougth by Oracle.
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I think you are forgetting the big picture.

HP sells Hardware business for let say 10 billion.

And Oracle buys HP and reinvent the join venture as a big Software/Server company.

To me is evident. HP is preparing to be bougth by Oracle.

There is no ways the Monopoloies and Mergers Commission would sanction this. It would effectively remove too much competition so soon after the acquisition of Sun. In Europe that is, I am sure the US counterparts would feel the same.
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Re: HP kills of WebOS devices and wants to get rid of PCs as well

HP launches the Slate 2

In fact, the Slate 2 is actually a follow-up to HP's Slate 500, which launched more than a year ago at a price of $US800, running Windows 7 and marketed to businesses and not consumers.

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