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Old 28.09.2011, 02:06
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Affidavid of Support for a Green Card (to the U.S.)

Hey everyone,

Long time lurker, second time poster. Maybe third.

Anyway, I married a beautiful Swiss woman almost 2 years ago, and now we're preparing to move to the U.S. for a bit. We've been going through the process of acquiring a green card before we leave, and honestly, the process doesn't seem to be designed to handle requests from people not currently living in the U.S. very well.

Or maybe it does and I'm just ignorant. That's kind of what this post is about.

We're approaching the interview, which recently got bumped up a couple weeks because of scheduling difficulties. To complete the process, I need an Affidavit of Support. (Form I-864). This form basically states that I need to have a place, or domicile to use the jargon, in the U.S. before I can be eligible to file an Affidavit. It allows co-sponsors, but only if the primary sponsor (me - the husband) has a domicile in the U.S. I wrote them asking what I could do to qualify for an Affidavit, and this is the unclassified e-mail response I got:

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Re: I-864
To qualify as a sponsor, a petitioner (you) who is residing abroad must have a principal residence in the U. S. and intend to maintain that residence for the foreseeable future.
Should you not have maintained a domicile in the United States, you then need to re-establish a U. S. domicile in order to be a sponsor.
The list given below are samples of things you can provide to proof the establishment of your domicile:

- Work contract of employer in the United States
- Apartment lease of your new home in the United States
- Confirmation of giving up your residence in Switzerland

Your wife can bring form I-864 including all supporting documents on her interview appointment.
So... what can I do? I fee like I hit a brick wall here.

Thanks for any & all comments in advance.
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Old 28.09.2011, 02:26
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Re: Affidavid of Support for a Green Card (to the U.S.)

I think you are really on the wrong forum for this question. You should look for one that is about immigration to the US.

The only think I can say from a US friend living here in Buenos Aires is the there have been changes recently and I think I remember that you actually have to apply for the green card (permanent status) while residing in the US. You can't do it while living abroad. I believe she has to apply for a visa (K3?) and then do the green card stuff when she arrives in the US.

http://travel.state.gov/visa/immigra...es_2991.html#4
Is Residence in the U.S. Required for the U.S. Sponsor?
Yes. As a U.S. sponsor/petitioner, you must maintain your principal residence (also called domicile) in the U.S., which is where you plan to live for the foreseeable future. Living in the U.S. is required for a U.S. sponsor to file the Affidavit of Support, with few exceptions. To learn more, review the Affidavit of Support (I-864 or I-864EZ) Instructions.

http://travel.state.gov/visa/immigra...ypes_1315.html
Nonimmigrant visa for spouse (K-3) - It is important to note that application for the nonimmigrant visa for spouse (K-3) who married a U.S. citizen must be filed and the visa must be issued in the country where the marriage took place. After the visa process has been completed, and the visa is issued, the spouse can travel to the United States to wait for the processing of the immigrant visa case. Two petitions are required:
Petition for Alien Relative, Form 1-130; and
Petition for Alien FiancÚ(e), Form I-129F
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Re: Affidavid of Support for a Green Card (to the U.S.)

You should go ahead and mail the form in with the other documents, Its protocol. Usually if they need supporting documents they will let you know to bring it in to the interview. At that point you can write a letter stating you had lived abroad, but you are filing on the basis of relocating to the US. That is confirming giving up residency in Switzerland.
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I think you are really on the wrong forum for this question. You should look for one that is about immigration to the US.
Oh, you are kidding me. I would make that mistake.

Would it be too much to ask for a mod or someone to move this thread to that forum?
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Old 28.09.2011, 04:27
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Oh, you are kidding me. I would make that mistake.

Would it be too much to ask for a mod or someone to move this thread to that forum?
There isnt one here
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Oh, you are kidding me. I would make that mistake.

Would it be too much to ask for a mod or someone to move this thread to that forum?
No. No! I meant like a site that is better suited to help with immigration to the US. There are other sites out there are better for those types of things.

Like this forum which where I used to hang out when we were looking to move to another country:
http://www.expatforum.com/
This is the USA Section:
http://www.expatforum.com/expats/ame...iving-america/

Good luck!
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Old 28.09.2011, 05:58
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Re: Affidavid of Support for a Green Card (to the U.S.)

You say you are moving to the US for "a bit".
How long is that? Do you have a job lined up?
Where would you stay when you get there, family?
If you plan to stay with family to start with then put that address. That'll be fine.
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You say you are moving to the US for "a bit".
How long is that? Do you have a job lined up?
Where would you stay when you get there, family?
If you plan to stay with family to start with then put that address. That'll be fine.
We're moving to the U.S. because it's important to me that my wife understands my culture. I know, I know... American culture is considered an oxymoron by some people, but there are a lot of things that I do that my wife attributed to me when it's just part of my culture. Like responding with, "Mhmm" when someone thanks me. Bunch of small stuff like that.

I say for a bit, because we have no idea how long. If she really can't handle the culture shift, it may just be a year. But she's sort of mentally steeled herself for not coming back to Switzerland, despite me every implying that would happen, so I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility of staying for longer. Or maybe just 2 years. Like I said, no real idea. I think the economy will affect that the most.

Don't have a job lined up. Do have a lot of money saved. Work as a cook, so it's not exactly hard to find work, even in this economy.

I'm mostly estranged from my family. Maybe I can look into using my sister's address, but that's all the way across the country from where we want to stay.

Well, I'll check out those other places. Thanks everyone for your help.
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Old 28.09.2011, 14:26
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Re: Affidavid of Support for a Green Card (to the U.S.)

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We're moving to the U.S. because it's important to me that my wife understands my culture. I know, I know... American culture is considered an oxymoron by some people, but there are a lot of things that I do that my wife attributed to me when it's just part of my culture. Like responding with, "Mhmm" when someone thanks me. Bunch of small stuff like that.

I say for a bit, because we have no idea how long. If she really can't handle the culture shift, it may just be a year. But she's sort of mentally steeled herself for not coming back to Switzerland, despite me every implying that would happen, so I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility of staying for longer. Or maybe just 2 years. Like I said, no real idea. I think the economy will affect that the most.

Don't have a job lined up. Do have a lot of money saved. Work as a cook, so it's not exactly hard to find work, even in this economy.

I'm mostly estranged from my family. Maybe I can look into using my sister's address, but that's all the way across the country from where we want to stay.

Well, I'll check out those other places. Thanks everyone for your help.
You should be able to do the application from the consulate in Bern and have it in hand for when you fly to the US. I went through this same very tedious process for my husband in Helsinki. Other than having to get a full military service record, police record, every other kind of record, the only thing I bristled at was the health exam(for him). The affidavit of support is merely a formality. Give a permanent address in the US if you don't have a place there at the moment, e.g. a friend's house if you are estranged from your family. Basically, they just need an address to mail or use for later communication which you can change online once you know where you're going to live.

Good luck with the move. The downside is that 2012 is an election year in the middle of a crap economy so....it may not be the most attractive of moments for American Culture.
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Old 28.09.2011, 16:40
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Re: Affidavid of Support for a Green Card (to the U.S.)

If you need any help just pm me. I went through the whole process myself and arrived in the US 4weeks ago. I now have my Green card
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There used to be an excellent usenet news group us- immigration or something. I used it in the late 1990's when we were applying for my husband's green card. If I can find it, I'll post here. It's probably a forum now. Good luck with the application.
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