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Old 05.10.2011, 20:49
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Re: Renouncing US Citizenship - Specific Question

So would you recommend then renouncing asap and then taking the time to sort out the financial mess? I guess if I somehow get an appointment this year then I would have a few months minimum right?
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Old 06.10.2011, 01:59
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Old 10.02.2012, 12:26
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Re: Renouncing US Citizenship - Specific Question

Thanks all for your help several months back.

I have now got most of money out of the US. I am waiting to close one more account as well.

I am going to renounce in the following months and my understanding is that I will need to file FBARs for each account, Form 8854 and another form to delcare bank accounts over 50,000 dollars. I just realised (with some relief!), that I do not also have to file 8938 "Report of Foreign Financial Assets" or whatever it is called.

Future tax situation won't be complicated since my parents have said that they will disinherit me if I renounce. I can technically afford a professional tax advisor now, but to be honest I will just be using Turbotax since I will not be wasting 1000 plus Euros on that. I will submit the forms and pay whatever penalties they want and then be done with it. I can't wait until I am no longer a US citizen .

I just hope that the CLN doesn't take forever to arrive (There are reports of it taking a year now to arrive...).
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Re: Renouncing US Citizenship - Specific Question

Has anyone here actually renounced and if so, how long did it take for your CLN to arrive? I, too, have heard it can take up to a year.
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Old 09.03.2012, 01:04
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Re: Renouncing US Citizenship - Specific Question

It's OT but yet I feel compelled to the write about the twisted nature of human beings. OP and others on this thread are trying hard to get rid of their US citizenship, while I on the other hand get desperate and exasperated trying to find a way to get back there again. Humans, are we ever satisfied..
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It's OT but yet I feel compelled to the write about the twisted nature of human beings. OP and others on this thread are trying hard to get rid of their US citizenship, while I on the other hand get desperate and exasperated trying to find a way to get back there again. Humans, are we ever satisfied..

Well, hopefully we all have good reasons for what we are
doing. I've been over here so long and have created so much of a life here that moving back to the states would never make sense in my situation. believe me, I've thought long and hard about all the potential scenarios.
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Well, hopefully we all have good reasons for what we are
doing. I've been over here so long and have created so much of a life here that moving back to the states would never make sense in my situation. believe me, I've thought long and hard about all the potential scenarios.
True and I can't get a life here to save mines..
No matter how hard I try, it's all very outlandish to me here.
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Old 09.03.2012, 09:38
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Re: Renouncing US Citizenship - Specific Question

It took about three months for me to get it, though it was actually approved less than two weeks (I have it in front of me).

But this was back in 2009-2010, renounced end of October, received CLN end of January or beginning of February, things may have changed.

Regarldess of how long it takes to get approved or to receive it, it's still valid from the date of renunciation.

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Old 09.03.2012, 09:49
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It's OT but yet I feel compelled to the write about the twisted nature of human beings. OP and others on this thread are trying hard to get rid of their US citizenship, while I on the other hand get desperate and exasperated trying to find a way to get back there again. Humans, are we ever satisfied..
funny how you are trying to leave when loads of people are trying to come to switzerland
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Re: Renouncing US Citizenship - Specific Question

I have a related question. I am American but eligible for a British Passport (married to a Scotsman and lived there for 19 years). I really want one as it would make traveling around europe much easier but I don't want to renounce my US citizenship. is there a 'grey' area where you have both passports?

I hear of so many people who claim to have a US and another passport but yet when you look at the US government websites they state that they do not 'recognise' dual citizenship. So does that mean as long as I don't renounce they will still consider me a US citizen and just ignore the British?? If it means that I can't renew my US passport while holding a British that's fine as long as I still have an option to go back to the US if I ever need to.


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Re: Renouncing US Citizenship - Specific Question

What they mean is that for them, you are a US citizen, regardless of other citizenship, but pretty much every country works like that.

I had dual for over 10 years (until I finally got around to going to Bern to renounce), my kids have 3 (USA, Canadian, CH).

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You won't have any problem renewing your British passport if you're a dual citizen. My husband is dual US - Dutch. Interesting that at some point the Dutch may make him choose, but right now since he is married to a US citizen (and thst's why he became a US citizen), he can keep both.
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Has anyone here actually renounced and if so, how long did it take for your CLN to arrive? I, too, have heard it can take up to a year.
I think if you use the search function, there have been a few threads on this recently.

Another source, visit the Isaac Brock Society, here http://isaacbrocksociety.com/ they have been very active in monitoring this CLN issue. If I recall correctly, there was wide variations depending on location, Europe seemed to be quite short, yet Canada people were still waiting for years. Also on that forum, there has been a good discussions on if you really need a CLN or not.

I would also suggest you, or anyone else, thinking of 'renoucing' to see if 'relinquishing' nationality makes more sense. You can escape the 450 USD fee if relinquishing is possible. Good discussion on relinquishing vs. renouncing also at Isaac Brock Society.
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What they mean is that for them, you are a US citizen, regardless of other citizenship, but pretty much every country works like that.

I had dual for over 10 years (until I finally got around to going to Bern to renounce), my kids have 3 (USA, Canadian, CH).

Tom
Thanks!! That's what I thought/hoped. Think I will make an appointment when I get back to Edinburgh to start the process of getting a British Passport!!
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Re: Renouncing US Citizenship - Specific Question

to the OP: What's your other citizenship?
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Re: Renouncing US Citizenship - Specific Question

OP here - Sorry for bring this thread back to life, but I thought that I would share a bit about what happened. I renounced earlier this month and was told that the CLN should take a couple of months to arrive. They said that there had been a lot of renunciations in the past few months (I had to wait almost half a year to get an appointment at a consulate in a small country even!), and that there is a bit of a backlog in going through all of the CLNs.

The process itself at the embassy required two visits, payment of the $450 upfront (I paid in Euros though) and lots and lots of paperwork in triplicate. Consular staff was friendly and you could tell that they had handled many cases before mine.

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Assuming that you meant me (!), I am a Belgian national.
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Re: Renouncing US Citizenship - Specific Question

Regarding the CLN, I have one with me (currently in the US on vacation), as well as my old US passport (stamped "loss of citizenship xx.xx.2009"), but haven't needed either.

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