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That's on a standard unclocked chip at idle load... or can't you read ? When running on an overclocked Q6600 it goes as high as 40dBa

Are you seriously suggesting that that fan on an overclocked tp 3.2 Ghz Q6600 under load when playing games will run at 19dBa ? Please, think again.
wrong again. stop making things up. 19dBa is the noise when the fan is spinning at maximum speed.
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See my last link: http://www.gamer-pc.ch/index.php?page=product&info=620

Swtich the processor to the 2500k and you've still got a pretty awesome system for ~1200. 2 year warranty, too.

I don't know what the geekier ones in this thread think.
I think it would be about the same as the Digitec, if Digitec can upgrade the GPU. At the end of the day, it might just boil down to looks. The more conservative Piano black finish of the Digitec box , or the rather rugged/masculine Cooler Master look.
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wrong again. stop making things up. 19dBa is the noise when the fan is spinning at maximum speed.
That's a manufacturers claim. Do some research and check out the real world tested noise. BTW, when did you last overclock a chip by 30% and keep it stable on air Phil ? I have my setup at home running at 4GHz on air , stable for months, or I can run it at 4.4GHz on air and put up with the noise, stable for months. Both from a stock 3.2GHz and not using any Turbo boost features.

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Old 06.10.2011, 17:06
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Well it is also an Asus P67 board vs. a Gigabyte Z68 board, and no SSD.
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I think it would be about the same as the Digitec, if Digitec can upgrade the GPU. At the end of the day, it might just boil down to looks. The more conservative Piano black finish of the Digitec box , or the rather rugged/masculine Cooler Master look.

Can I have the link to the Digitec option please Im not sure which one your talking about?

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Old 06.10.2011, 17:13
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Can I have the link to the Digitec option please Im not sure which one your talking about?

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Search for 218880 at digitec.ch , their URL's are discrete and hard to link to.
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Old 06.10.2011, 17:14
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That's a manufacturers claim. Do some research and check out the real world tested noise.
i did. and many others have. the q6600 with the noctua was one the most popular overclocking configuration for gaming enthusiasts.

the fact that you thought that it was hard to overclock to 3ghz and didn't realise that this configuration was practically silent, leads me to believe you know very little on the subject.

i'd stick to arguing mathematics with MathNut, if I were you
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i did. and many others have. the q6600 with the noctua was one the most popular overclocking configuration for gaming enthusiasts.

the fact that you thought that it was hard to overclock to 3ghz and didn't realise that this configuration was practically silent, leads me to believe you know very little on the subject.

i'd stick to arguing mathematics with MathNut, if I were you
I was right, your experience is Google based, whereas mine is in the real world on my own systems. Got any screenshots of your overclocked systems ? We can compare them here
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I was right, your experience is Google based, whereas mine is in the real world on my own systems. Got any screenshots of your overclocked systems ? We can compare them here
son, i was overclocking computers before you got out of nappies
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Search for 218880 at digitec.ch , their URL's are discrete and hard to link to.

and I just ask them what it costs to upgrade gpu to 560?
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son, i was overclocking computers before you got out of nappies
I am sure you have some pics to prove that...as well as some current screenshots of the systems you have overclocked. But it's all just talk isn't it Phil Your Googling may be up to scratch, but that's where it stops until the screenshots arrive eh ?

...still waiting
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and I just ask them what it costs to upgrade gpu to 560?
Try all 3 options 560/570/580 , all are fine , each will be progressively more expensive. If they are reluctant to upgrade, see if they can discount the existing card , quote for a new card , and install it yourself. Warranty minefield though.... Push them for a swap to a GTX560 !
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Old 06.10.2011, 17:41
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I am sure you have some pics to prove that...as well as some current screenshots of the systems you have overclocked. But it's all just talk isn't it Phil Your Googling may be up to scratch, but that's where it stops until the screenshots arrive eh ?

...still waiting
let's see your screenshots...
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Try all 3 options 560/570/580 , all are fine , each will be progressively more expensive. If they are reluctant to upgrade, see if they can discount the existing card , quote for a new card , and install it yourself. Warranty minefield though.... Push them for a swap to a GTX560 !

Ok thanks for all the replies and help, really appreciate it. Ill let you know how I get on, Im sure you guys will still be arguing over whos got the biggest clock
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let's see your screenshots...
Sure, will need to restart , fiddle with the BIOS etc , you know how it goes. First one will be at 3.6GHz,

I take it you will show me a 3.5 year old CPU running at 3.6GHz too ?
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Old 06.10.2011, 17:49
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took photo with camera cos i'm sure you'd claim i photoshopped if i took an actual screenshot

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Ok thanks for all the replies and help, really appreciate it. Ill let you know how I get on, Im sure you guys will still be arguing over whos got the biggest clock

Hey saga not over yet, I called them and they said they dont have a card thats compatible with the hp. I suggested the Asus GTX-560 Ti DCII 1GB GDDR5, PCI-E x16 ART:207714 but she said it wasnt compatible.. any suggestions?
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I have no idea why they would say not compatible....maybe just an excuse methinks. If it can run the specc'ed card, it can surely run another card of the same family.

Typical Swiss CS response though, saves them from thinking. I suppose you could phone again and see if you can get hold of a different advisor.
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Old 06.10.2011, 18:32
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Sure, will need to restart , fiddle with the BIOS etc , you know how it goes. First one will be at 3.6GHz
not got the machine stable yet?
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took photo with camera cos i'm sure you'd claim i photoshopped if i took an actual screenshot
Yuck, that's just plain awful

Seriously, try and get a screenshot the CPU model etc , that could just be a new CPU running slightly higher...Also, you could be running a VM and faking it Or vi'ed the file you cat'ed

...and it's only 3.6GHz

Here is mine at 4GHz...

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Oh, and like your Linux screenshot, here is mine at 14GHz

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