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Old 27.10.2011, 13:46
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is there anyone that doesn't hate the french?
I actually quite love the French

But hei, I'm not a sports fan anyway...
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Old 27.10.2011, 15:12
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I actually quite love the French
Me too... lived there for a long time and have absolutely nothing against the place or the people. But what Russkov says above about the "Et un, et deux..." thing isn't far wrong.

Mind you, lots of English people still think we have a world class football team with a divine right to be in the final of every tournament because we won the World Cup in 1966...
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Old 27.10.2011, 15:18
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I'd feel bad for the French, if they weren't just as bad. Remember "Et un, et deux, et 3 - 0!" ? Europe had to suffer that for way longer than is humanly reasonable. So HTFU, Frenchies.
Well, when a team win a world cup, I can understand that they brag. But the way NZ medias treated us was not about that.

I didn't pay enough attention I guess, because I had no idea we did the same... Arf, I am too naive.
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Old 27.10.2011, 16:03
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Mind you, lots of English people still think we have a world class football team with a divine right to be in the final of every tournament because we won the World Cup in 1966...
Better than coming from a country which people only heard because some of the best football players are from there, therefore it's a country only for football.

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Old 27.10.2011, 17:16
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My X is French..
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Old 27.10.2011, 17:21
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Re: Question for new zealanders fellows, do you hate french people ?

Don't worry: the French media were making fun of the NZ hate headlines. A mix of contempt and déjà-vu.
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Old 27.10.2011, 18:26
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My stepmother is French. She is...difficult.
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Re: Question for new zealanders fellows, do you hate french people ?

its a complicated question, but only because of the world cup...

NZ really doesn't hate French people any more than most nationalities. NZ, being small and usually insignificant, likes other small nations, and likes big nations when they give us some genuine compliments etc.


I daresay our (nz) media didn't show much wit in the reporting leading up to the final. Comments about the Rainbow Warrior, or nuclear testing in the pacific, are only stretching to find a reason why France would give a damn about NZ.

Except for the arrogance of some nzers, the world cup victory _should_ have eased tensions as now we have no right to complain about the french being spoilers of our good times.

I hope media comments weren't at all directed at the fans or french people, as that is never fair. I honestly can't think of negative coverage I've seen of French fans, I think its more likely to say NZ media reporting on meanie English and Australian fans.
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Old 27.10.2011, 18:43
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Re: Question for new zealanders fellows, do you hate french people ?

Come on, the NZers want to pay the fine for the French rugby team. Something with trespassing a line. It's anything but hate, it's just the usual journalist crap. There is the same in a certain English press every week.
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Old 27.10.2011, 19:50
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Re: Question for new zealanders fellows, do you hate french people ?

@ Simmer : you are probably right, I never heard of anything against french supporters. I am glad because i picture NZ like a little island of paradise (i know, i know... there is no such thing on earth, but still!) and i would have been disappointed to know that I wasn't welcome there....

@Faltrad : i didn't know they wanted to pay the fine (i hope they won't, it is our fault, but the gesture is honorable).

Ok, now i want desperately go there even more....
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Re: Question for new zealanders fellows, do you hate french people ?

Well, as someone who was madly in love with a member of the French rugby team when I was a child ( I saw him from my classroom window when the team came to practise in gym at my school in NZ) I have nothing against the French. :-)

On the other hand, NZ may be just a little unpopulated country, but our isolation makes it hard for us to compare ourselves with other countries. So we think we are big and sometimes get offended when we feel we have been taken advantage of - hence many of us were really peeved at the French for daring to think they could blow up "our" Rainbow Warrier, and in our own waters, and think they could get away with it. My personal revenge is ongoing - teaching French children to speak English with a New Zealand accent ;-DD

Apart from that, in reality I have only had positive interactions with French people - ones who have given me somewhere to sleep when camping grounds have been closed, ones who add extra, free, vegetables to my bags at the Saturday St Louis markets, ones who willingly and patiently help me with basic French phrases and never, ever say "You should learn French!"

Generally, Kiwi folk will ake you feel welcoe and will probably fall in love with you just for the accent. ( and I bet that al the single French rugby players had a lovely time being pursued by the young local women.
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Old 27.10.2011, 20:22
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Well, as someone who was madly in love with a member of the French rugby team when I was a child
Get yourself a Dieux du stade calendar, you'll be in love with rugby players for the rest of your life. Google it (add a year in order to get the real team), it's worth it.
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Old 27.10.2011, 20:57
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Get yourself a Dieux du stade calendar, you'll be in love with rugby players for the rest of your life. Google it (add a year in order to get the real team), it's worth it.
Thanks for the suggestion. But those photos are all of babies!
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Old 27.10.2011, 21:02
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Well, as someone who was madly in love with a member of the French rugby team when I was a child ( I saw him from my classroom window when the team came to practise in gym at my school in NZ) I have nothing against the French. :-)

On the other hand, NZ may be just a little unpopulated country, but our isolation makes it hard for us to compare ourselves with other countries. So we think we are big and sometimes get offended when we feel we have been taken advantage of - hence many of us were really peeved at the French for daring to think they could blow up "our" Rainbow Warrier, and in our own waters, and think they could get away with it. My personal revenge is ongoing - teaching French children to speak English with a New Zealand accent ;-DD

Apart from that, in reality I have only had positive interactions with French people - ones who have given me somewhere to sleep when camping grounds have been closed, ones who add extra, free, vegetables to my bags at the Saturday St Louis markets, ones who willingly and patiently help me with basic French phrases and never, ever say "You should learn French!"

Generally, Kiwi folk will ake you feel welcoe and will probably fall in love with you just for the accent. ( and I bet that al the single French rugby players had a lovely time being pursued by the young local women.

I like your sense of revenge ! You have style
I can understand your frustration about the Rainbow Warrior. I would have been offended too, and if I was older enough to understand at the time, I would have been ashamed of my country....

I am glad to know that you've met nice french people. I know we have a very bad reputation, sometimes well deserved, sometimes less
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Get yourself a Dieux du stade calendar, you'll be in love with rugby players for the rest of your life. Google it (add a year in order to get the real team), it's worth it.
OMG! He's the manager!! But how come he looks so many years older now???
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Thanks for the suggestion. But those photos are all of babies!
Then call me a cradlesnatcher and book my ticket to hell... The calendar was very popular in gay circles, by the way, can't POSSIBLY imagine why.
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Old 29.10.2011, 00:00
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Re: Question for new zealanders fellows, do you hate french people ?

Maybe because of Sébastien Chabal making facial hair in the game popular. Did you see how many players were sporting fluff? So yuck! Seriously, it should only be allowed in Movember.
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Old 29.10.2011, 08:16
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Re: Question for new zealanders fellows, do you hate french people ?

absolutely not a reflection! not amongst my close new zelander friends anyways. I was chatting live with some of them while watching the final and all is well. I was in all alone in a bar full of kiwis and french alike and the atmosphere was just awesome. And worst one of m closest NZ friend who currently lives in Christchurch did not watch ons single game as she could not care less!!! That is far more chocking to me
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