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Re: The worlds most expensive Photo.

It's a Swiss photo. Do you have any idea what it costs to get film developed here?

Holy mother of god [Film developing cost]
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Old 10.11.2011, 20:34
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It's a Swiss photo. Do you have any idea what it costs to get film developed here?

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exactly, if you look at cost of printing larger and larger photos and extrapolate the cost for a photo of this size, it seems about right.

it's probably why the artist made 6 of them: to benefit from the 6 for the price of 4 offer.
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Re: The worlds most expensive Photo.

Best case senario:
The price is not tagged to the photo but to the heart of the person who paid that price. In that case, the photo is worth anything between zero and infinite, your heart will tell you the price of that photo. The buyer told his price. Nothing weird in emotional value put into $ on the art market - it's a market... remember? The buyer is the only one to know his price. Why not believing him when we all believe you when you say it's worth nothing ?

Worse case senario:
Name of the artist is a good investment and the buyer is a good speculator. He wouldn't be the first one, nothing weird in speculation as such. (*insert cynical smiley here*)
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Re: The worlds most expensive Photo.

It was a conversation like this that make me break with my art fair/museum/galleries "friend"... yes, I know my friend could do one like this, but... could she create the concept, convert it into a statement, do something that generate emotions, that people can relate to and feel what is what the artist is trying to convey. Answer is obviously, no. At this point, I don't even think she has enough sensitivity to understand art.... to create art you need to know (and feel) far more than what brushes, types of paint or brush. Or for that matter, what sort of cameras, lenses, technical details or even - God forbid! - photoshop tools.

Having seen a few gursky's in ArtBasel, all I can say is that they are overwhelming (never seen this one, though). Gursky tends to do very large and complex pieces - this little jpg doesn't make any justice to it. It seems to me that it just a gross demerit to the real photograph. With this sort of pieces, you need to be close to it to fully enjoy it and let it embrace you. As you get closer to it, you start to see patterns, textures and hidden colors - it is the sort of thing that makes you percieve reality diffrently. Very much like what we call today aumengted reality - but done a decade ago. Probably if it was a painting, there would be less of a problem of Gurski being so abstract. But, being photographs they just give another depth to it.
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Old 11.11.2011, 04:57
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If this is 4.3 million than i should contact Christie to sell me this then....looks like i can get 6 to 7 million for it......it's called "Mist II" By the Great Myself of course....any takers??

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Old 11.11.2011, 08:58
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Re: The worlds most expensive Photo.

Thank you for that Slaphead, the Greek government should look into this market!

From the same auction house: 6 pieces of plastic and a sheet of aluminium, $2,042,500

http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/d...15&sid=&page=2

I guess the rich don't trust their Swiss bank manager to keep a secret anymore.
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Old 11.11.2011, 10:55
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Re: The worlds most expensive Photo.

The World's Most Expensive JPEG

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Old 11.11.2011, 11:40
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Re: The worlds most expensive Photo.

To be honest, I do not feel anything looking at this photograph, but, as lucy-sg said, perhaps it's more impressive when you are close to it.
Andreas Gursky has established a name for himself in photography and this could have been a decisive factor in driving up the price, I guess.
I've googled some of his other works and I must say they are truly amazing, so thank you for the link, Slaphead. I have work to do but I'm staring at photos instead.
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Old 11.11.2011, 11:43
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Re: The worlds most expensive Photo.

Peter Parker took this photo:
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Re: The worlds most expensive Photo.

I prefer it with the power station, to be honest.
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True. But how the artist got the name in the first place is also relevant. Art historians are to blame for many things as art history is as open to interpretation as the art itself. They create the history, the story and the market.

All art is referential and in some way representative of society at the time. There have been certain seminal works of art that have defined an epoch. These works are commentary and are referenced by other artists in their works thus creating a lineage, connecting the dots. This is where the history comes in.

I was referring to your comment that you don't get the "art" aspect of photography. Take Jeff Wall as an example. What makes his photography "art"? Well, for starters he was an art historian and saw a gap in the photography art history market and effectively created a concept space for himself and wrote himself into art history. It's a real rabbit hole but all credit to him.

Take a look at Picture for Women



You may ask yourself, OK what makes this art. First look at the angles, where is the mirror, who is the camera looking at, who is he looking at, who is she looking at? And who are we in this picture and what role do we play?



You're asking yourself what the significance of all of this is...

If you are into classical art and its history, you might have see this painting by Manet (Bar in Folies)



Is she behind the bar, is the crowd behind her a reflection in the mirror? Is that her reflection or another bar maid? There are many questions, but this painting caused a stir at the time because it broke many rules and pissed off the establishment. It has become a seminal piece of work in art history as a result.

Jeff Wall's Picture for Women is a comment on this work drawing from it's concept and bringing it back to life in a new medium of photography.

So, down the rabbit hole we go - it's a process of analysis, extrapolation and hypothesis just as painted pictures were and still are. Now you may or may not care for any of this as it might simply not be what floats your boat. This is what can make photography art in concept in a time when conceptual art came to be.

Art references it's lineage in history against other art. It is a living conversation and photography has joined in.

I'll spare you now if you've even made it this far.
Thanks for this post. I couldn't agree more.
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Old 11.11.2011, 11:51
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Re: The worlds most expensive Photo.

I like it. I wonder how much the copies are.
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Hahahaha loving the artistically improved photos guys .... so funny.. I'm off to find my camera and make some money!!!
Finding the camera to take a picture is easy

......... Finding the fool to buy it is the hard part.
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Old 11.11.2011, 12:21
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Thanks for this post. I couldn't agree more.
Glad you like the topic. If there is one other person interested in discussing art in any informed capacity it might be worthwhile starting a thread about it.
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Old 11.11.2011, 12:22
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Re: The worlds most expensive Photo.

Thank you for taking the time to post all that, things are clearer now.

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True. But how the artist got the name in the first place is also relevant. Art historians are to blame for many things as art history is as open to interpretation as the art itself. They create the history, the story and the market.

All art is referential and in some way representative of society at the time. There have been certain seminal works of art that have defined an epoch. These works are commentary and are referenced by other artists in their works thus creating a lineage, connecting the dots. This is where the history comes in.

I was referring to your comment that you don't get the "art" aspect of photography. Take Jeff Wall as an example. What makes his photography "art"? Well, for starters he was an art historian and saw a gap in the photography art history market and effectively created a concept space for himself and wrote himself into art history. It's a real rabbit hole but all credit to him.

Take a look at Picture for Women



You may ask yourself, OK what makes this art. First look at the angles, where is the mirror, who is the camera looking at, who is he looking at, who is she looking at? And who are we in this picture and what role do we play?



You're asking yourself what the significance of all of this is...

If you are into classical art and its history, you might have see this painting by Manet (Bar in Folies)



Is she behind the bar, is the crowd behind her a reflection in the mirror? Is that her reflection or another bar maid? There are many questions, but this painting caused a stir at the time because it broke many rules and pissed off the establishment. It has become a seminal piece of work in art history as a result.

Jeff Wall's Picture for Women is a comment on this work drawing from it's concept and bringing it back to life in a new medium of photography.

So, down the rabbit hole we go - it's a process of analysis, extrapolation and hypothesis just as painted pictures were and still are. Now you may or may not care for any of this as it might simply not be what floats your boat. This is what can make photography art in concept in a time when conceptual art came to be.

Art references it's lineage in history against other art. It is a living conversation and photography has joined in.

I'll spare you now if you've even made it this far.
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Old 11.11.2011, 12:25
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Glad you like the topic. If there is one other person interested in discussing art in any informed capacity it might be worthwhile starting a thread about it.
Not something I could discuss, but it'd make good reading if it's anything like your previous post.
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Old 11.11.2011, 12:28
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Glad you like the topic. If there is one other person interested in discussing art in any informed capacity it might be worthwhile starting a thread about it.
I'm in the same boat as mirfield, in that there's not much I could comment on, but nevertheless I am interested.
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Old 11.11.2011, 12:32
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Thank you for taking the time to post all that, things are clearer now.
Thanks for reading. My post was not really relevant to Gursky's picture, but more an inroad into or example of what makes art art and how photography is just another medium.

With regards to the picture in mention, people don't get that Gursky is an established, exhibited and revered artist/photographer. They think some guy bought a point and shoot and sold his little picture for millions to some unsuspecting fool with money.

Any piece of art, much like any person you might encounter, has a history, a story, relationships, status and standing. Behind any one piece of art is an entire story, a market, a notion, an idea, a concept, a motivation and the execution of all of these things.

One has to take into consideration the corpus of work of any artist when evaluating any one of their pieces. You can't just single this one out not knowing anything else about the artist and his work and say 'it's crap, i should by a camera'

Maybe you should buy a camera. Who knows, you might just be the next best thing in art.
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Maybe you should buy a camera. Who knows, you might just be the next best thing in art.
if u r referring to lou, i know she has a camera!
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if u r referring to lou, i know she has a camera!
It wasn't directed at Lou, but since she has a camera she had best get snappy. She may well be the next best thing since...
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