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Old 06.12.2011, 09:42
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Liars.

Smokers.

Drunks.

Substance abusers.

Slobs.

Bullies.
Werd.

Probably in a different order but same stuff.

I don't think one can really influence actively nor control the nearest ones.

But in a bigger scheme, career wise, the important quest/fight for me would be helping those who cannot help themselves yet, or not as efficiently. It's not the easiest thing, nor do we always know what to do the best, it is consuming especially when those who you are helping fight you since they haven't done anything else their entire little lives..Mais voila. There is injustice done to kids and teens.

I used to be into autonomous living, different campaigns, communes, different rights protection, self sufficiency, I still am since it is intriguing, but pick people I share debates/precious figts with. It's not the ones who walk around with meticulously prepared self presentation shick that often have anything interesting to say, nor really even take interest in the stuff they pretend to take interest in.

I think the biggest fight is to get away from one's ego.
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Old 06.12.2011, 09:46
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Re: What are your fights?

Fighting off all the groupies.

Looking for someone who values my brain
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I understand your terminology when you use the word "fight" to be "what do you believe in enough to stand up for it".


i believe one event can change your life for ever, that you dont always have a choice over what happens, but you can choose how to react.

I really feel for the latest adds that are spreading around from the Salvation Army (though i don't necessarily believe in everything that they believe)



i would fight for the people that are trying to find their place in the world again.

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Old 06.12.2011, 09:47
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Re: What are your fights?

my home town newspaper today reminded me of another fight.

seat belts... or kids, stupid kids that think they are invincible

Framingham State to hold memorial for student killed in crash

Read more: http://www.metrowestdailynews.com/ed...#ixzz1fk602kqA


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Old 06.12.2011, 09:59
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As to avoid a tie ?
I do try to avoid ties, unless worn with a suit.

But I wouldn't elevate it to the level of a struggle, it's more passive resistance.

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I don't follow your "logic" here - the statement you replied to involves two controversial countries of controversial geographical boundary which are engaged in a sectarian conflict against each other. Hence there are many identical features of the comparators.


Your "logic" then suggests an identical logical question would be involving comparators :
  • a decorative stone
  • a deadly weapon
  • an activity leading to reduction in health in the person doing said activity and those surrounding that person(s)
My "logic" would indicate to me that this is a very poor analogy indeed. Please fill in the missing gap(s).
My bad for not expressing myself clearly enough, but try to follow the train of thoughts and you'll see that the analogy is (hopefully) valid. If you stop at the objects - stone, weapon, activity, it will lead you to nothing. You must look for the reason behind.

Castro's question to me was (I believe): why would it be ok for you not to travel to the countries that do not recognize Israel, and why would it be ok instead for you to travel to the countries that do not recognize Palestine? It is a perfectly logical question, especially since, if you know me, you also know that I feel strongly in favor of the Palestinians having their own country (I just lay the blame elsewhere than Israel if this hasn't happened yet, and it's all I am going to say about this here, since the topic has been debated to death in other places on this forum, and I don't wish to enter into a debate about this).

To get back on topic, Castro's question, to me, is a very similar question to saying: why would it be ok for you to "boycott" (I put this in quotes, as I really dislike this word) the products of an industry that, based on your personal experiences, you find controversial and do not accept (precious stones), and instead be ok with the products of other industries which are just as controversial, if not more (tobacco, weapons, etc.)? Hence the analogy.

The answer to this is what I said before: the fights we pick and the fights we instead choose to let go, I believe, are only partially influenced by facts, and largely influenced by our personal experiences with people, places, and situations. Perhaps I am wrong, but this is what I have witnessed so far.


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But in a bigger scheme, career wise, the important quest/fight for me would be helping those who cannot help themselves yet, or not as efficiently. It's not the easiest thing, nor do we always know what to do the best, it is consuming especially when those who you are helping fight you since they haven't done anything else their entire little lives..Mais voila.
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I understand your terminology when you use the word "fight" to be "what do you believe in enough to stand up for it".

i would fight for the people that are trying to find their place in the world again.
A person who fights for the people who cannot help themselves and who fights for the people who are trying to find their place in the world is what I aspire to be. Thank you for sharing and inspiring.
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Old 06.12.2011, 10:36
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A person who fights for the people who cannot help themselves and who fights for the people who are trying to find their place in the world is what I aspire to be. Thank you for sharing and inspiring.
Everybody figts for the underdog..

There is a lot of injustice done, kids and teens often fall through the cracks since everyone thinks they still have the entire life to make up for it. No kid should ever fall through the cracks of any system or family situation..

I think more than donations, or pity, sympathy, comfort we think people need, etc. whatever..fighting for self sufficiency is the biggest fight in our lives, for all of us, not just the underdogs, we are all underdogs in one way or another. How much do we need others, how much we hate needing others, how much we rely on the nearest ones, abuse ha
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Old 06.12.2011, 10:45
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I really feel for the latest adds that are spreading around from the Salvation Army (though i don't necessarily believe in everything that they believe)
I saw the campaign on the news and I have to say it touched me deeply. I had to go through the human crisis of a home destroyed because of unemployment as a child, and had to go through it myself once I finished University.

The effect that being jobless creates on you - loneliness, depression, self-hatred, unease, self-degradation, society casting away, mistrust and abandonement - can reach a point of no return. I saw the man most close to me - my father - reach that point. I almost got there myself.

It's a worthy cause to fight for. I'd put my banners up if not for the fact that just thinking about it makes me wanna crawl into a dark corner in a depressive flesh ball.

I'm happy someone is fighting in my place.
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Old 06.12.2011, 11:28
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Re: What are your fights?

That Salvation Army made me think when I saw the posters around here..

Thinking back about our old regime, when one was given a tiny bit of pseudolife, some job one couldn't choose and wasn't really paid for, meager life with "security" of this until one's end of life. I think I would still opt to live in the difficult to level the risk western world, with all the insecurities but having family network replacing the commie regime network and social security, kids should take care of their folks.

Absurdly enough, the good ol days made one not relying on gov and help, the opposite. We certainly had to pick fights, or be extinguished. People there still get off by musing over ideals, illusions, moral responsibility, etc.
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I saw the campaign on the news...
It is not just for those that have been "out-jobed", but also those who have had other severe life changing experiences.
- loss of a close loved one, divorce, a big accident - things that rock your fundamental belief systems, cause you to lose faith.
It it those that come out the other side that then may or may not fight for those who are going through the same event in their present (I am thinking of the drunk-driving advocates.)
As I read in a book recently, a sky with clouds is a lot more interesting than a blue sky.

MC, I don't believe that everyone fights for the underdog. I think there are some out there, willing to hurt others to any degree to get what they want. If there wasn't we wouldn't have anything to read in the newspapers.
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Old 06.12.2011, 11:34
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Absurdly enough, the good ol days made one not relying on gov and help, the opposite. We certainly had to pick fights, or be extinguished. People there still get off by musing over ideals, illusions, moral responsibility, etc.
It's kinda absurd, but I know a lot of people from my parents generation that fought, within surviving possibilities, against the fascist regime, that now think about the good old days of the regime as something of a golden age.

A golden age of analphabetism, religious supremacy, corporal punishment and censorship, but of ingraned human values and respect.

It's weird how the world and people evolved. Sad we can't get the best of both worlds.
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Old 06.12.2011, 11:45
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MC, I don't believe that everyone fights for the underdog. I think there are some out there, willing to hurt others to any degree to get what they want. If there wasn't we wouldn't have anything to read in the newspapers.
coincidentally, i was reading an article on slate.com about underdogs:

http://www.slate.com/articles/health...ct.single.html

they observe the underdog bias experimentally and claim that the effect arises naturally as a result of emotional maximising behaviour (utilitarian model) e.g. if you support the underdog and they win, it's great, but if they lose—well, you expect that outcome and so are less upset.
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Old 06.12.2011, 12:53
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MC, I don't believe that everyone fights for the underdog.
I think I kinda do think that. Either for genuine reasons, helping a lot or little, or for needing to be needed, fillng the void, securing bonds in otherwise insecure life, etc etc. Not sure if I am being realistic or just temporarily cynical. Wouldn't stop me from having the help the underdog reflex..

What Phil posted is interesting.

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I think there are some out there, willing to hurt others to any degree to get what they want..
That's true..

I have read through the thread, very interesting. Some muscle talk and bling talk, loads of genuine opinions, jokes..These debates are good.
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I fight myself, my real inner self.

The outer me lives in this world and has to abide by the rules and regulations. The inner me does not want to be bound by rules that society put in.
He wants to be free.

I am in conflict. Every single moment. Every single day.
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Re: What are your fights?

If all people fought for the underdog, theoretically, it wouldn't be the underdog anymore, would it? "God is on the side of the most artillery" kind of thing...

There are people who would do anything to get what they want. Pyramid schemes and all that is proof of that. However, nobody thinks they are the bad guy of the movie, so it is always rationalized and justified someway.

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coincidentally, i was reading an article on slate.com about underdogs:

380 nm verses 750nm...

i think we're on a different wavelength.
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Old 06.12.2011, 13:25
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Re: What are your fights?

Federica, I dont know if it can be considered a "fight" but I have certain things in life that I adhere to out of principle - is that what you mean?

For example:

1. I aim to be a responsible and ethical consumer/traveller: I dont take sharks fin soup, I dont use make up and only buy from companies that are against animal testing, I avoid veal, foie gras etc

2. I am against elitism of any form. For example: I have an unconventional background career wise. It has been an uphill fight, but thankfully, more and more musicians out there are beginning to see that the notion that a successful pianist/musician has to be selected from birth and nurtured/trained cruelly for countless hours, that he or she can only succeed by winning competitions and attending the best conservatories is - simply not true.

More like through luck, passion, sweat and some quite spectacular medication

3. I am an advocate for animal and womens' rights. I tend to boycott any corporation/country that arent keeping up with that.

Great topic by the way!
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