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Old 18.12.2011, 13:08
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I did!but wow...i must have very bad luck cose this morning i had another request for bbysit and i had to say no!and now i called back and they hav someone already...also on friday i work until 22h at this *******hostel...weekends i have free though..but tonight i end up without any bbysit...

In case I am over reacting...
What is wrong with this answer? Looks like she is just a little sad that she ended up without a job for the evening... Is this wrong?
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Old 18.12.2011, 13:09
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Sorry but I dont agree with this part. I talk to her by messages exactly to avoid misunderstanding. It is written and she can look on Internet for words she doesn't understand instead than me talking to her and maybe not catching everything I say.

If you take an appointment to the hairdresser for a cut and color but cancel 8 hours earlier. Would you pay the cost of your hair color and cut? She may had refuse a customer who wanted the same time than you?
No need to apologise. But I thought you had asked for our opinions. Re the hairdresser question - giggle, you don't know about me and hairdressers, do you?
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Old 18.12.2011, 13:20
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What is wrong with this answer? Looks like she is just a little sad that she ended up without a job for the evening... Is this wrong?
No, that is why I wanted to know if I over reacted.
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No need to apologise. But I thought you had asked for our opinions. Re the hairdresser question - giggle, you don't know about me and hairdressers, do you?
It is good to have the opinion of outsiders. It gives a more balance view of the situation. Doesn't mean we have to agree with each other though.

What is your story with hairdressers?
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Old 18.12.2011, 13:46
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No, that is why I wanted to know if I over reacted.
She probably shouldn't have complaned to you about her bad luck. Your are not her friend but only her employer. Is this a good reason not to use her any more? I think not really
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Old 18.12.2011, 14:14
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She probably shouldn't have complaned to you about her bad luck. Your are not her friend but only her employer. Is this a good reason not to use her any more? I think not really
Personally, I wouldn't leave any baby of mine, with any babysitter who was cross with me, whether the crossness be justified or not. Nil has said that there are plenty of other babysitters to choose from, so why not start anew with a new person and no crossness?
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Old 18.12.2011, 14:30
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Re: Babysitting etiquette

You were right to cancel the babysitter if your child was sick and i also think as a student, who is probably desperate for the money, then she also has every right to be pissed off. However, if she wants a job, then she is a little naive to send an SMS of this tone. Maybe she should have just vented off to one of her friends!
I think you should look elsewhere for a babysitter and set out a cancellation policy at the outset
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Old 18.12.2011, 14:32
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Personally, I wouldn't leave any baby of mine, with any babysitter who was cross with me, whether the crossness be justified or not. Nil has said that there are plenty of other babysitters to choose from, so why not start anew with a new person and no crossness?
Starting anew with a new babysitter is an extra effort. For me it was always a very serious effort...

Why would you never leave your kid with a babysitter who was cross with you? Often the problem could be clarified by talking about it.
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Old 18.12.2011, 14:36
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Starting anew with a new babysitter is an extra effort. For me it was always a very serious effort...

Why would you never leave your kid with a babysitter who was cross with you? Often the problem could be clarified by talking about it.
To be honest, I would be a little concerned about leaving someone with a short fuse in charge of my children, particularly when one is a baby.
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Old 18.12.2011, 14:39
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To be honest, I would be a little concerned about leaving someone with a short fuse in charge of my children, particularly when one is a baby.
Sure, I agree absolutely
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Old 18.12.2011, 14:41
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Re: Babysitting etiquette

Slightly off-topic but as this is off-topic section and Sunday afternoon it doesn't matter.

From experience I would say that there are many misunderstandings caused by 'abbreviated' messages (SMS etc). Many misunderstandings have been caused by one of the people involved speaking a language which is not their mother tongue. Even more are caused by both people speaking languages which are not their mother tongue. And quite a few are caused simply by people being of different backgrounds or of different age-groups. It's not just the way a text is written but also the way it is read. And using a dictionary doesn't always help either.

Several of the groans I've collected on EF were given by people who may have understood the words I used, but they didn't understand what I was saying and/or why I said it.
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Old 18.12.2011, 14:51
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Wise wise words Longbyt, merci.

Hope you and the little ones feel better soon Nil. With hindsight- I think I would have offered to pay half when cancelling. As you said it is not expensive where you are - but hindsight is always so easy. Babysitter might have had the money already allocated to a driving lesson, Christmas present for somebody, or towards debts, etc - her disappointment may hide real difficulties.
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Old 18.12.2011, 15:10
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Slightly off-topic but as this is off-topic section and Sunday afternoon it doesn't matter.

From experience I would say that there are many misunderstandings caused by 'abbreviated' messages (SMS etc). Many misunderstandings have been caused by one of the people involved speaking a language which is not their mother tongue. Even more are caused by both people speaking languages which are not their mother tongue. And quite a few are caused simply by people being of different backgrounds or of different age-groups. It's not just the way a text is written but also the way it is read. And using a dictionary doesn't always help either.

Several of the groans I've collected on EF were given by people who may have understood the words I used, but they didn't understand what I was saying and/or why I said it.
Thank you, this is so true. Talking and trying to understand could be very helpful.
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Old 18.12.2011, 15:21
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Re: Babysitting etiquette

Do you have to pay your sitter CH hour wage? What does it come to...50%?

Pay up the hours she was supposed to get, since that's good business, and say bye to her.

I wouldn't stand a sitter talking foul language to me..How do I think she talks to me child when I am not around. Being a sitter is a job like anything else (which also means paying up if you cancel too late).
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Old 18.12.2011, 15:43
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Re: Babysitting etiquette

24 hours is the minimum considerate cancellation time for any appointment, be it babysitter, piano teacher, brain surgeon, to allow them to realistically be able to arrange something else with their time.

When your hand is forced by other circumstances like illness, it's still your responsibility to pay if you cancel too late, and it's always better to phone rather than text, as much as to make sure that the message is received (an SMS can go unnoticed if you're distracted far easier than an incoming call) as to apologise for the inconvenience (which you should be doing). SMS leaves too much scope for misinterpretation of tone.
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24 hours is the minimum considerate cancellation time for any appointment, be it babysitter, piano teacher, brain surgeon, to allow them to realistically be able to arrange something else with their time.
Good advice. I would hate to end up with an annoyed brain surgeon.
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Old 18.12.2011, 16:22
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Starting anew with a new babysitter is an extra effort. For me it was always a very serious effort...

Why would you never leave your kid with a babysitter who was cross with you? Often the problem could be clarified by talking about it.
Just wanted to add a few words to this... I have always selected my babysitters very carefully. And absolutely was not ready to easily change them. They had the most important job in the world looking after my kids. They were significant persons to me and I liked them to feel this way... So they could talk about job-related problems to me, even get crossed with me when for a reason -- I was willing to try working things out with them.
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Old 18.12.2011, 16:26
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Good advice. I would hate to end up with an annoyed brain surgeon.
The likelihood of me pissing off a brain surgeon and paying for it in the operation hall is slim, hehehe... A pissed off nanny happens way more often, good to avoid. Cursing, being peeved off easily.

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I'd say, I wouldn't sweat paying an evening I would have to cancel, if that meant I actually got to find out my nanny is unprofessional. Her doing it for cash is something I wouldn't contest, since don't we all work for cash. But her immature reaction and swearing to her employer would worry me. Kids need maturity. Unless you want to pay them little and get service that is on par with your investment.
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I'd say, I wouldn't sweat paying an evening I would have to cancel, if that meant I actually got to find out my nanny is unprofessional. Her doing it for cash is something I wouldn't contest, since don't we all work for cash. But her immature reaction and swearing to her employer would worry me. Kids need maturity. Unless you want to pay them little and get service that is on par with your investment.
I agree with you.
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Old 18.12.2011, 16:34
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I agree with you.
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See what happens when you have a thread with no "thanks" buttons?
Why do some threads, such as this one, have no "Thanks" buttons?
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