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How does cutting out bread and pasta make a difference? [weight loss]

When trying to lose weight?

I don't understand why people cut it completely off, it must be good in a normal quantity.... At least this is what our Canadian chart of nutrition says....

I am thinking to try it myself.
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Some opinions I have read on this indicate it is not the carbs themselves that create the weight gain, but the amount we eat. By cutting out bread, rice, pasta, we cut calories...easier to learn not to eat them at all than to learn portion control.

I've done low carb in the past very successfully from weight loss viewpoint.
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Old 21.01.2012, 12:51
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Re: How does cutting out bread and pasta make a difference? [weight loss]

It might indeed lead to weight loss, but as soon as you start eating sandwiches for lunch it will come back.

There is another successful method, just eat half of what you ate previously. This way you can still enjoy your food, just don't pig out!
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Old 21.01.2012, 13:24
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Re: How does cutting out bread and pasta make a difference? [weight loss]

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When trying to lose weight?

I don't understand why people cut it completely off, it must be good in a normal quantity.... At least this is what our Canadian chart of nutrition says....

I am thinking to try it myself.
They do it trying to reduce their body fat because un-refined carbs are rather quickly converted into fat once the digestion process converts them into glucose and floods the blood stream.

Cutting carbs off completely is fad dieting and not good in the long run because it causes cravings and binges, I learned this from trying the no carb approach. You could do it for a short period, say 2 or 3 days, to see how much you miss or not carbs, everyone is different, and use that to adjust your meal planning in the future. The body needs carbs so if you try to go cold turkey it can be rough.

Reducing intact, or converting what you eat into non-refined carbs like dark breads, whole wheat pasta, brown rice, sweet potatoes, ect. can be more healthy in the long run.

You probably already know this last part from the reading you've been doing. Due to a lower glycemic index un-refined carbs are absorbed slower during digestion as they take longer to break down into glucose, and the body can burn off more rather than converting the excess into fat.
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Re: How does cutting out bread and pasta make a difference? [weight loss]

Here's what works for me and a few friends (a friend of mine lost about 35 kg of fat and put on 18 kg of muscle doing this and doing weight training):
Eat a good breakfast with protein, this gets your body to wake up (because of ghrelin, I think?)
Mid morning snack with a little carbs and some protein
Lunch with complex carbohydrates, again, you have to have some protein their too (whole wheat pasta, for example)(obviously, you need to watch your portion size, some people can handle more carbs, some less)
Afternoon snack, I often have a piece of fruit and some nuts or cottage cheese
For dinner, I try to have NO carbs, so something like steamed vegetables and some protein.

If I am too rushed to cook something decent / for breakfast and to stop myself from snacking on rubbish, I have a orotein shake with skimmed/soy milk and some berries. Adding protein stops your insulin levels from shooting up, this will keep you fuller longer.

The cutting out carbs thing can be hard as they are usually used as "filler" in EVERYTHING but I notice that I have less cravings, more energy and better weight loss when I manage to stick to the plan. That's a big when, by the way. My trainer also recommends working out about two hours after your last meal, as the body can't really fall back on the carbs you just ate and burns fat better.
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Old 21.01.2012, 13:50
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Re: How does cutting out bread and pasta make a difference? [weight loss]

There is a biochemical explanation for this... carbohydrates and proteins have different metabolic pathways. Carbohydrates - specially sugars - are degraded much faster. Therefore, they provide energy for immediate needs and used within a short period of time. Whatever is not used, it will be stored as lipids. Proteins, on the other side, have a much more complex and slower metabolism. If the body has to resort to its use to obtain energy, it will take longer to get it. Therefore, you won't feel the need to eat so soon. The downside of it is the formation of side products, which in large quantities are toxic. A very typical example of this is uric acid.

Personally, I have lost a few kilos by cutting carbohydrates from my diet (I get regularly checked by a doctor, to make sure nothing is wrong). I don't expect fast results, so for me is more like a change in the way I eat. When I start to have craves or in special occasions, I just eat them without too much guilty. It is working for me...
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Old 21.01.2012, 14:48
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Re: How does cutting out bread and pasta make a difference? [weight loss]

I know that low carb diets are the thing of the moment but a few years' ago Rosemary Conley's Hip and Thigh diet was all the rage, the emphasis of which being keeping fat intake to a minimum. A friend of mine started it and she not only found it very easy to stick to but lost about two stones in a matter of months. She also found that, as Rosemary always maintained, she lost most weight from her waist, bottom and thighs and lost little from her bust, face, etc.
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Re: How does cutting out bread and pasta make a difference? [weight loss]

Watching the Gycemic index of food is very important for those with Type II diabetes or thyroid impairment.

There are carbs and carbs though- the key is the amount of starch coontained. Simply put the higher the starch content, the quicker it turns into sugar and then fat. So basmati rice is relatively low GI, whereas risotto or sticky rice is high. Same for new potatoes compared to older/jacket types. Eat pasta all dente and wash out starch before eating. ETC.

Lots of good advice on Google re low glycemic index foods.
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Re: How does cutting out bread and pasta make a difference? [weight loss]

There's a lot of good advice on this subject and I think, one should try different things and listen to his body.

What worked for me, was no or very little carbs in the evening, no snacking, no food 3 hours before bed and NO wheat! It is the most unhealthy grain you can get because it's far too processed and it doesn't have anything healthy in it anymore.
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Re: How does cutting out bread and pasta make a difference? [weight loss]

Porridge (oats) is by far the best cereal breakfast to start the day with - slow glycemic release (especially if you buy the larger oats- not the typical tiny Swiss ones which release much more starch)
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Re: How does cutting out bread and pasta make a difference? [weight loss]

I've been helping people to lose weight for over 15 years.

All weight loss programmes work if you stick to them . I think someone has already said it, you have to find the method that suits you and your lifestyle the best.

So, if you love bread then a programme that allows you to enjoy bread is the one for you. Could you envisage NEVER eating bread again? I personally, don't like, programmes that cut out whole food groups, but that is a very personal opinion.

You can't beat ... Energy out has to be more than energy in for achieve a weight loss ... how you achieve it, is up to you.
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Re: How does cutting out bread and pasta make a difference? [weight loss]

Cutting out bread and pasta (assuming you eat them every day, like a lot of people!) is of course going to have an impact on your calorie intake..... and a lot of people think gluten is the route of all evil these days - even those without allergies. No idea on that. I know someone who did a diet that cut out all refined products - like white sugar and white flour etc. Of course if you substitute a pile of chips for your pasta then that's not going to help much I guess.

I know I've said it before but I do still think eating less is the key - I just find it impossible to cut out things like bread and pasta so I try and eat less of them. The "no carbs in the evening" thing does work for me too - I pile my plate high with lovely vegs instead and since I like vegs it's no problem for me.
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Re: How does cutting out bread and pasta make a difference? [weight loss]

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Re: How does cutting out bread and pasta make a difference? [weight loss]

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There's a lot of good advice on this subject and I think, one should try different things and listen to his body.

What worked for me, was no or very little carbs in the evening, no snacking, no food 3 hours before bed and NO wheat! It is the most unhealthy grain you can get because it's far too processed and it doesn't have anything healthy in it anymore.
I'd like a link for the "no wheat" idea. IMHO, ALL grains are highly processed now.... Corn syrup, f'rinstance. In fact many crops (soy, lemons, milk ) go into a factory like an oil refinery that spits out streams of unchanging standard products with well defined functions, suitable for use in industrialized food production.
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