Go Back   English Forum Switzerland > Off-Topic > Off-Topic > General off-topic  
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1641  
Old 19.07.2017, 19:57
curley's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: canton ZH
Posts: 12,618
Groaned at 206 Times in 171 Posts
Thanked 14,425 Times in 7,458 Posts
curley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Ask a Scientist

Quote:
View Post
Why do we laugh when being tickled?
why-do-we-laugh-when-tickled

<< the hypothalamus, is also the same part that tells us to expect a painful sensation>> for me this was interesting. My problem is that when I am in serious pain I laugh - which means I often don't get help. I even had to tell my doctors about that,
Reply With Quote
  #1642  
Old 19.07.2017, 22:38
MusicChick's Avatar
modified, reprogrammed and doctored²
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: La Cote
Posts: 17,256
Groaned at 392 Times in 269 Posts
Thanked 19,942 Times in 10,390 Posts
MusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Ask a Scientist

Quote:
View Post
why-do-we-laugh-when-tickled

<< the hypothalamus, is also the same part that tells us to expect a painful sensation>> for me this was interesting. My problem is that when I am in serious pain I laugh - which means I often don't get help. I even had to tell my doctors about that,
That's a great link, thanks. I laugh at absurdities and bizarreness...which is not always the safest reaction, either.

It is interesting thay we do not need to be in a good mood to laugh when tickled.
Reply With Quote
  #1643  
Old 19.07.2017, 22:40
Mélusine's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Lutry
Posts: 3,895
Groaned at 32 Times in 27 Posts
Thanked 5,518 Times in 2,220 Posts
Mélusine has a reputation beyond reputeMélusine has a reputation beyond reputeMélusine has a reputation beyond reputeMélusine has a reputation beyond reputeMélusine has a reputation beyond reputeMélusine has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Ask a Scientist

Quote:
View Post
why-do-we-laugh-when-tickled

<< the hypothalamus, is also the same part that tells us to expect a painful sensation>> for me this was interesting. My problem is that when I am in serious pain I laugh - which means I often don't get help. I even had to tell my doctors about that,
I hate tickles as they actually hurt me, in an over sensitive kind of way.
Reply With Quote
  #1644  
Old 19.07.2017, 23:30
Blueangel's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Küsnacht, Switzerland
Posts: 4,004
Groaned at 113 Times in 101 Posts
Thanked 10,747 Times in 4,739 Posts
Blueangel has a reputation beyond reputeBlueangel has a reputation beyond reputeBlueangel has a reputation beyond reputeBlueangel has a reputation beyond reputeBlueangel has a reputation beyond reputeBlueangel has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Ask a Scientist

Quote:
View Post
No volcanoes in Switzerland. You don't need a volcano for a hot spring, just geothermal heat. Fun reading here: http://www.mountainnature.com/geology/HotSprings.htm

And a list of volcanoes around the world here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_volcanoes
Just got in from a bbq with the neighbours, and I asked this question as one of them studied geography. She told me there are loads of dormant or extinct volcanoes in Germany, but was unsure of how many there are in Switzerland.

My question is, with so many granite quarries in Switzerland, which is an igneous rock, surely there must have been volcanoes here thousands of years ago?
Reply With Quote
  #1645  
Old 20.07.2017, 13:28
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: SG
Posts: 8,927
Groaned at 466 Times in 349 Posts
Thanked 11,846 Times in 6,166 Posts
Urs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Ask a Scientist

Nope, there are no volcanos in Switzerland. However some German ones are fairly close, Hegau and Kaiserstuhl come to mind.

Granite is formed within the Earth crust, usualy 2km and more below the surface. Geologic processes may bring the granite to the surface, in this case the forming of the Alps which is caused by the African pushing against the Eurasian plate.

Last edited by Urs Max; 20.07.2017 at 13:38.
Reply With Quote
  #1646  
Old 20.07.2017, 20:56
3Wishes's Avatar
Moderately Amused
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Bern area
Posts: 11,144
Groaned at 87 Times in 83 Posts
Thanked 18,847 Times in 8,391 Posts
3Wishes has a reputation beyond repute3Wishes has a reputation beyond repute3Wishes has a reputation beyond repute3Wishes has a reputation beyond repute3Wishes has a reputation beyond repute3Wishes has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Ask a Scientist

Quote:
View Post
Just got in from a bbq with the neighbours, and I asked this question as one of them studied geography. She told me there are loads of dormant or extinct volcanoes in Germany, but was unsure of how many there are in Switzerland.

My question is, with so many granite quarries in Switzerland, which is an igneous rock, surely there must have been volcanoes here thousands of years ago?
If you trust wikipedia, here's the list of German volcanoes:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...oes_in_Germany

As for the granite in CH, Urs Max is right. More fun reading here:
http://www.nagra.ch/en/geologyofswitzerland.htm
Reply With Quote
  #1647  
Old 04.08.2017, 17:35
MusicChick's Avatar
modified, reprogrammed and doctored²
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: La Cote
Posts: 17,256
Groaned at 392 Times in 269 Posts
Thanked 19,942 Times in 10,390 Posts
MusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Ask a Scientist

Can we dream about somebody we have never met?

I had a dream last night about somebody I have never seen before, it was really precise.
Reply With Quote
  #1648  
Old 04.08.2017, 17:43
TheWolverine's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Zürich
Posts: 1,491
Groaned at 13 Times in 11 Posts
Thanked 1,378 Times in 688 Posts
TheWolverine has a reputation beyond reputeTheWolverine has a reputation beyond reputeTheWolverine has a reputation beyond reputeTheWolverine has a reputation beyond reputeTheWolverine has a reputation beyond reputeTheWolverine has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Ask a Scientist

Quote:
View Post
Can we dream about somebody we have never met?

I had a dream last night about somebody I have never seen before, it was really precise.
Yep. Same here. I think we can.

Dreams are a fruit of the subconscious. We form a picture of someone even before we meet them based on what we know / what we think we know of them. And the subconscious does the rest.
Reply With Quote
  #1649  
Old 04.08.2017, 17:54
FrankZappa's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: France, near Geneva
Posts: 868
Groaned at 8 Times in 7 Posts
Thanked 2,775 Times in 727 Posts
FrankZappa has a reputation beyond reputeFrankZappa has a reputation beyond reputeFrankZappa has a reputation beyond reputeFrankZappa has a reputation beyond reputeFrankZappa has a reputation beyond reputeFrankZappa has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Ask a Scientist

Quote:
View Post
Can we dream about somebody we have never met?

I had a dream last night about somebody I have never seen before, it was really precise.
It seems to me that you answered your own question .

However, if you meant: Does the person really exist? Will we ever meet them in real life? Those are interesting questions, but not scientific ones.

Personally, I see dreams as a kind of trash can for thoughts, the result of the mind spitting stuff out while it is disconnected from reality.
Reply With Quote
  #1650  
Old 04.08.2017, 18:18
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Lausanne
Posts: 540
Groaned at 44 Times in 25 Posts
Thanked 579 Times in 320 Posts
dandi has an excellent reputationdandi has an excellent reputationdandi has an excellent reputationdandi has an excellent reputation
Re: Ask a Scientist

Quote:
View Post
Can we dream about somebody we have never met?

I had a dream last night about somebody I have never seen before, it was really precise.
Then again, being sure you haven't seen someone before is just as illusory. You may have well seen that person (passing by for instance) just not "register" it. Or you may have met but not remember it. The mind can play nasty tricks on you, don't rely on it for anything serious
Reply With Quote
  #1651  
Old 04.08.2017, 19:49
Medea Fleecestealer's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Switzerland
Posts: 22,126
Groaned at 406 Times in 315 Posts
Thanked 17,100 Times in 9,620 Posts
Medea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Ask a Scientist

Yes, it's called foresight or seeing into the future. Had it happen to me once or twice when I was a kid. And no TheWolverine, I formed no picture of the person from what I knew or thought I knew of him since I didn't know him at all. Never met before, didn't even know he existed.
Reply With Quote
  #1652  
Old 05.08.2017, 12:24
MusicChick's Avatar
modified, reprogrammed and doctored²
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: La Cote
Posts: 17,256
Groaned at 392 Times in 269 Posts
Thanked 19,942 Times in 10,390 Posts
MusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Ask a Scientist

Yeah, Wolve - I think the unconscious brain work plays a big role in it.

Quote:
View Post
It seems to me that you answered your own question .

However, if you meant: Does the person really exist? Will we ever meet them in real life? Those are interesting questions, but not scientific ones.

Personally, I see dreams as a kind of trash can for thoughts, the result of the mind spitting stuff out while it is disconnected from reality.
If you take sleep as a thought processing-short memory cataloguing time period (I know this is a relatively short part of our sleep), the images might be a byproduct. Emotions too, desires, regrets, or whatever other feelings are attached to thoughts and stimulate/accompany them.

Quote:
View Post
Then again, being sure you haven't seen someone before is just as illusory. You may have well seen that person (passing by for instance) just not "register" it. Or you may have met but not remember it. The mind can play nasty tricks on you, don't rely on it for anything serious
I might have seen him in passing, or liked him without getting this info fully into my conscious register, if it was 2sec moment, or something.

Or, it might be a collage of everything I ever consciously liked on everybody..who knows.

The fun dream part was the conscious feeling of positive affection. So concrete, and everything with it, the smells, the tone of voice..Why do we dream about abstract beings when we do not have the experiences really, with them?

Before people find somebody, do they know they are looking (I do not think I am, tbh), do they have a concrete picture they are unaware of, and then somebody irl walks in and just matches it? How does this image change with age..and why even have this in a dream. I do know how to program to dream about something, can have a series of nights, continuing my dreams - loads of people can. Kids are better at it, imho. But this was completely unintentional. I have never seen the person, no idea what language he spoke, either.
__________________
"L'homme ne peut pas remplacer son coeur avec sa tete, ni sa tete avec ses mains." J.H. Pestalozzi

“The only difference between a rut and a grave is a matter of depth.” S.P. Cadman

"Imagination is more important than knowledge." A. Einstein

Last edited by MusicChick; 05.08.2017 at 12:35.
Reply With Quote
  #1653  
Old 05.08.2017, 12:39
marton's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Kt. Zürich
Posts: 10,566
Groaned at 472 Times in 405 Posts
Thanked 19,372 Times in 10,227 Posts
marton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond reputemarton has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Ask a Scientist

Quote:
View Post
Yes, it's called foresight or seeing into the future. Had it happen to me once or twice when I was a kid. And no TheWolverine, I formed no picture of the person from what I knew or thought I knew of him since I didn't know him at all. Never met before, didn't even know he existed.
According to Einstein "for us physicists believe the separation between past, present, and future is only an illusion, although a convincing one"
Reply With Quote
  #1654  
Old 05.08.2017, 14:37
curley's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: canton ZH
Posts: 12,618
Groaned at 206 Times in 171 Posts
Thanked 14,425 Times in 7,458 Posts
curley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Ask a Scientist

Quote:
View Post
....
The fun dream part was the conscious feeling of positive affection. So concrete, and everything with it, the smells, the tone of voice..Why do we dream about abstract beings when we do not have the experiences really, with them?
Interesting. I had a dream in February like that .... I woke up and I knew that I knew that smile. I searched amongst everybody I know ... no luck. I still wonder sometimes and I dream a lot, so I don't usually keep them in mind that long including all the sensations but I can recall every detail still today.

Who knows, I might walk into that smile one day .... I wonder how that would be.
Reply With Quote
  #1655  
Old 05.08.2017, 14:43
MusicChick's Avatar
modified, reprogrammed and doctored²
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: La Cote
Posts: 17,256
Groaned at 392 Times in 269 Posts
Thanked 19,942 Times in 10,390 Posts
MusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Ask a Scientist

Quote:
View Post
Interesting. I had a dream in February like that .... I woke up and I knew that I knew that smile. I searched amongst everybody I know ... no luck. I still wonder sometimes and I dream a lot, so I don't usually keep them in mind that long including all the sensations but I can recall every detail still today.

Who knows, I might walk into that smile one day .... I wonder how that would be.
You want EFers to smile more, don't you...anyone who reads this and is about to get outa house

We should start "The EF Dream Chronicle". For people who dream a lot.
Reply With Quote
  #1656  
Old 05.08.2017, 15:11
Medea Fleecestealer's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Switzerland
Posts: 22,126
Groaned at 406 Times in 315 Posts
Thanked 17,100 Times in 9,620 Posts
Medea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond reputeMedea Fleecestealer has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Ask a Scientist

Quote:
View Post
According to Einstein "for us physicists believe the separation between past, present, and future is only an illusion, although a convincing one"
That may well be the case marton. All I know is that I had 2-3 dreams when I was younger that eventually came to pass. I had no sense that I was experiencing them in real life until suddenly I'd get a "deja vu" feeling and realised I was enacting something I'd dreamt about months or maybe years before.
Reply With Quote
  #1657  
Old 05.08.2017, 19:08
FunnyBone's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Earth
Posts: 836
Groaned at 40 Times in 27 Posts
Thanked 1,219 Times in 532 Posts
FunnyBone has a reputation beyond reputeFunnyBone has a reputation beyond reputeFunnyBone has a reputation beyond reputeFunnyBone has a reputation beyond reputeFunnyBone has a reputation beyond reputeFunnyBone has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Ask a Scientist

Quote:
View Post
That may well be the case marton. All I know is that I had 2-3 dreams when I was younger that eventually came to pass. I had no sense that I was experiencing them in real life until suddenly I'd get a "deja vu" feeling and realised I was enacting something I'd dreamt about months or maybe years before.
People who experience déjà vus have brain issues - misfirings or other damage.
Reply With Quote
  #1658  
Old 05.08.2017, 19:22
MusicChick's Avatar
modified, reprogrammed and doctored²
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: La Cote
Posts: 17,256
Groaned at 392 Times in 269 Posts
Thanked 19,942 Times in 10,390 Posts
MusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Ask a Scientist

Most people around me have experienced it, including me. I think it relates to recognising preconceived and altered (in our minds) stimuli that makes us feel that it is familiar, in some ways. I think it is normal, in fact. Like a reversed situ - dreaming of a person I have never met (I shouldn't dream of him, right), is not just a trick of phantasy/imagination, creating that "photo" in my sleeping mind. It is most probably preconceived but unconscious image that resurfaced, or a mix of them, creating an illusion of "newness". I most probably ran into him, saw a glance or actually know him. I primed myself somehow.
__________________
"L'homme ne peut pas remplacer son coeur avec sa tete, ni sa tete avec ses mains." J.H. Pestalozzi

“The only difference between a rut and a grave is a matter of depth.” S.P. Cadman

"Imagination is more important than knowledge." A. Einstein
Reply With Quote
  #1659  
Old 05.08.2017, 19:27
curley's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: canton ZH
Posts: 12,618
Groaned at 206 Times in 171 Posts
Thanked 14,425 Times in 7,458 Posts
curley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond reputecurley has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Ask a Scientist

Quote:
View Post
According to Einstein "for us physicists believe the separation between past, present, and future is only an illusion, although a convincing one"
Which would explain why we can dream about something that - we think - hasn't happened yet.
Reply With Quote
  #1660  
Old 05.08.2017, 20:18
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Ask a Scientist

Quote:
View Post
All I know is that I had 2-3 dreams when I was younger that eventually came to pass. I had no sense that I was experiencing them in real life until suddenly I'd get a "deja vu" feeling and realised I was enacting something I'd dreamt about months or maybe years before.

Coincidences happen mich more often than we think. In the case of deja-vu from a dream, you need to take into account that we all dream dozens of times each night, most of which we're completely aware of when we wake, but which have, nevertheless, imprinted an unconscious memory. Years later when a similar event takes place the brain will automatically access that memory as it records the new current one, and this will lift it to the conscious level, but only those parts of those dreams that fit the reality you're now experiencing.

Quote:
View Post
According to Einstein "for us physicists believe the separation between past, present, and future is only an illusion, although a convincing one"
Quote:
View Post
Which would explain why we can dream about something that - we think - hasn't happened yet.
No, it wouldn't. His point is that time is another dimension, with similarities to the spacial dimensions we're more familiar with. But just as we can't occupy multiple spatial positions, so we're also tied to a given point in the time dimension.

In my view, any belief in precognition can only be based on the idea of a supernatural realm or entity of some sort. Trying to find a scientific theory to support it is therefore as likely to succeed as a scientific proof of the existence of god(s).
Reply With Quote
Reply




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Average salary for post-doctoral scientist barish Employment 87 01.10.2008 14:27


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 21:49.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0