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Old 02.03.2012, 12:04
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Re: Rape Jokes Are Not Funny

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Peg A: What are your expectations of this thread? Why is this so important to you?
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Actually, it had not been my intention to rough up TLD for his post but rather to point out that it isn't "just us" who find such things offensive AND a hope to help open eyes that there is nothing funny about rape, ever.

It came to mind because of (as I said in the original post) a situation that happened during a gaming tournament. TLD's post and the ones that followed are my reasoning for posting it HERE as a "relevant to Switzerland" thing, because quite obviously, it IS relevant to us.


I'm really curious how you actually interpreted the picture he used though? With the caption it has, what else - realistically - could it have meant?
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Peg can of course speak for herself, but the way I see it is that Peg is trying to call attention to the fact that it wouldn't hurt us all to be a bit more sensitive to the fact that rape is a very serious issue.

I don't think she literally meant "You must not think this is funny". There is plenty of funny black humor out there. But like Kamarate said, there is a time and place for it.

It's like using the words "gay" & "retarded" to mean that someone is stupid or foolish, etc. It's offensive. Sure most people don't mean to insult gay or disabled people. In fact most people have actually detached in their minds the people from the term. Regardless of the intention, those terms are offensive. And I think it's the same with using "rape" to mean "I lost the game" or "I got my butt kicked in the game".

You can still think black humor is funny. However maybe would could be a bit more sensitive or at least aware that these types of jokes, those words hurt people.
Exactly, thank you.


Ultimately, here's how I think of it: If you wouldn't tell it directly to someone YOU KNOW who got raped, don't tell it on a public forum / in a public venue.
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Old 02.03.2012, 12:16
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Old 02.03.2012, 12:23
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Re: Rape Jokes Are Not Funny

Sarah Millican includes, or did for a very long time, jokes about rape. 2 in particular stand out:

1) My boyfriend said he wanted to engage in some rape role-play. I don't think he was expecting me be armed.

2) She talks about liking "rough sex" and that rape is a power play. She says you can counter it all be shouting I've orgasmed after a few seconds.

Reginald D Hunter includes references to rape in his award winning live shows. Jimmy Carr is also famous for one - "9 out of 10 people enjoy gang rape".

In fact the list of comedians now using rape jokes goes on and on. Is it a topic that jokes should be made about? Yes and No

No - it can be in poor taste - and can offend anyone who is sensitive to the topic.

Yes - people are talking more openly about it - which may well help to break down some of the stigmatisation which rape victims can often suffer. It may help people to open, perhaps for the first time, about the topic. And most importantly it may take peoples shame away - and allow them to report the crime.
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Old 02.03.2012, 12:43
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Re: Rape Jokes Are Not Funny

Peg, you groaned me because I didn't see it as a rape joke. I just didn't see it! And you groaned me because....? Because it should have been obvious? I explain what I saw and it didn't go on your way. I am sorry, I just didn't see it until you mentioned it.

Someone here post a picture of someone hanged. I hate to see h picture and I used to pass fast on it because my best friend killed herself this way.

I understand what you are doing. The method, not so much.
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Old 02.03.2012, 12:55
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Re: Rape Jokes Are Not Funny

Members are usually speedy to rein in inappropriate posters, often long before mods get the 'reported post' message. Mods rely on Members keeping the place orderly and EF does a great job as it has a great membership. We trust you to temper things before requiring mods to make a call.

(Peg A: that was a "Yeah but No but..." answer, I'm aware...)
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Old 02.03.2012, 13:04
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Re: Rape Jokes Are Not Funny

It's pretty simple: rape, gays, Jews, Muslims, suicide, killing, pedophilia, race other than Caucasian, retarded people, and in general fat people---- no jokes.

Everything and everyone else is fair game. Did I miss any?


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Old 02.03.2012, 13:05
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Re: Rape Jokes Are Not Funny

You missed off necrophilia and women.
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Old 02.03.2012, 13:08
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Re: Rape Jokes Are Not Funny

It never ceases to amaze me how some people feel the need to force their values on others. Peg if you or anyone else who finds a rape joke not funny feel free not to read/listen/laugh.

Almost every joke is aimed at something beit death, sexism, a coloured person, an Irish man, a religion or even elephants. If people are more open and exposed to humour that may raise awareness of a particular issue it may just de-stigmatise the taboo's people with beards, purple flowery skirts, or a lack of chest suppose try and foist on others. I laugh at what I think is funny, not what others seem to think I should find funny!

And both I AND my wife both found LD's chloroform post funny, and I also laughed at a cancer joke told to me the other day, and my father died of cancer a couple of years ago.

So lighten up, the world would be a much better place if people looked for the light in things rather than the dark.
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You missed off necrophilia and women.
You can joke about women, they don't get it.











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You missed off necrophilia and women.
Bestiality (Welsh people), Inbreeding (Norwich people), Eating disorders (Anorexia, Bulemia ... etc), Dwarves, Disabled people, Old people (Alzeimers), Tourettes... list goes on and on and on.

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If everyone was going to be PC then we will be simply... well American.
Sorry but I had to fix that for you. The Swiss are definitely not PC.
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Re: Rape Jokes Are Not Funny

The Scots ARE Stingy. Thats not a joke, it's a fact. Give them their independance tommorow I say. And build Hadrians wall back up.
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The Scots ARE Stingy. Thats not a joke, it's a fact. Give them their independance tommorow I say. And build Hadrians wall back up.
That wasn't funny :-)
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That wasn't funny :-)
So I'm not allowed to tell jokes that are offensive AND and that aren't funny ?

Your getting to a very short list!

It's Interesting point about subjectiveness though. It's not only the content of the joke, but the context and environment in which it is made. You wouldnt tell a sexual assault related joke at a work leaving speech, but you might at the bar afterwards having your leaving drinks and everyone's had a few.

I guess there's no real black and white answer in the end, it's all about timing and context. The problem with internet forums, and email in general, is that the context of the people reading it varies. So what would have been a side splitter if told down the pub, is read by someone in the cold light of day at home and they find it (not suprisingly) offensive.

I'd keep heavy jokes like that for verbal delivery and keep your internet forum jokes to a bit of a safety-free zone.

if your stuck, here's one to get you started:

Whats long and sticky ?

A Stick!

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Re: Rape Jokes Are Not Funny

Since we are doing bad taste jokes now in this thread I really want to reply to this thread
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The Scots ARE Stingy. Thats not a joke, it's a fact. Give them their independance tommorow I say. And build Hadrians wall back up.
Aye... and use cheap Polish imported labour to do it

BTW the Scots aren't stingy, they just have very short arms which can't reach their pockets.

OH lordy, that was a Johnny Foriegner and disabled remark... and religion. Can I use my Halb tax on the train to hell?

EDIT - thanks for the groan cdcdoc, was it the ref' to your beard you didn't like.... a light hearted outlook is just pain to some eh!
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Re: Rape Jokes Are Not Funny

Totally with Kamarate on this one, just depends on the audience. If the joke had been made in the Joke section, it would have been fine as people are well aware that they should keep away if some subjects are very offensive for them, for whatever reasons. On an open thread on a different subject, I'd say it makes sense to use common sense and sensitivity.
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Whats long and sticky ?

A Stick!
What's brown and runny?

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My best friend died of cancer, not funny



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