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So anyone have a hard answer to my question?
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Old 31.03.2012, 00:19
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I have heard a few times in the past that if you go on a crash diet and lose too much weight quickly that you can end up heavier than you started in the first place, apparently as soon as you stop or are lax on your diet you pile on the pounds too easily. It was explained to me, and this was by my doctor, that your body doesnt have time to adjust itself on crash diets and therefore the minute you lax it starts restoring the fat levels its used to.
How true I dont know, just passing on what I was told.
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Old 31.03.2012, 00:23
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I have heard a few times in the past that if you go on a crash diet and lose too much weight quickly that you can end up heavier than you started in the first place, apparently as soon as you stop or are lax on your diet you pile on the pounds too easily. It was explained to me, and this was by my doctor, that your body doesnt have time to adjust itself on crash diets and therefore the minute you lax it starts restoring the fat levels its used to.
How true I dont know, just passing on what I was told.
Did you even read my posts? I said this was not a crash diet. I said I have something that works for me. I have said I have done this before. And yet you want to talk about crash diets, even though this thread is about rapid weight loss and it's effects on joints. So please don't read anything else and tell your point of view on the current crisis in Syria cause I am dying to know.
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Old 31.03.2012, 00:29
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Did you even read my posts? I said this was not a crash diet. I said I have something that works for me. I have said I have done this before. And yet you want to talk about crash diets, even though this thread is about rapid weight loss and it's effects on joints. So please don't read anything else and tell your point of view on the current crisis in Syria cause I am dying to know.
Well excuse me!!! I was just passing on some info that although not relevant to your actual original question seemed to fit in with some of the other posts.

Only slightly off topic, when ever I tried giving up smoking I became a really grumpy B'd and my now ex wife actually begged me to start smoking again at one point as I was unbearable, I am very quickly starting to think the same thing happens to people depriving themselves of food, or at least the food their bodies are used to!!!

Have a nice day!
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Did you even read my posts? I said this was not a crash diet. I said I have something that works for me. I have said I have done this before. And yet you want to talk about crash diets, even though this thread is about rapid weight loss and it's effects on joints. So please don't read anything else and tell your point of view on the current crisis in Syria cause I am dying to know.
I'll ask again,

Would you please, share it with me? Or us?
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Old 31.03.2012, 00:37
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No no impact sport started. Plus increasing sports normally adds muscle, and muscle is heavier, there fore more weight. So, no offense, it makes no sense.
Yes. But, it also increases your metabolism so your body burns more calories. And building muscle around the knees should help with the pain.

You don't have to go crazy on the weights, but some weigh bearing on the legs is probably not a bad thing.

Yes. I have to start practicing what I preach.... If I didn't have crazy allergies I'd go buy a bike.
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Well excuse me!!! I was just passing on some info that although not relevant to your actual original question seemed to fit in with some of the other posts.

Only slightly off topic, when ever I tried giving up smoking I became a really grumpy B'd and my now ex wife actually begged me to start smoking again at one point as I was unbearable, I am very quickly starting to think the same thing happens to people depriving themselves of food, or at least the food their bodies are used to!!!

Have a nice day!
I am not bitching at you. I am certainly not un happy because I am fitting into my old clothes, and getting compliments. It certainly offsets all the deep fried madness from last Friday and all the snacking in between. Don't get offended, I just don't know why people have to assume to lose weight I must be doing something health damaging. There are of course tricks in the beginning to use against your body's attempt to catch up to your dietary plan. But that only lasts so long before you get figured out.

I am going more long term then a week or two. I was on the right path before I arrived here, and after some time I had to take some decisions to set things straight. I understand everyone's concern, but I am eating very nutritious foods, and I am full when I need to be. Sometimes I am hungry, but it is only normal. I have another 10 to 15 kilos to lose, so this is not over, nor do I think I will drop another 12 in the next month. But with all my determination I will drop 5.
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Old 31.03.2012, 00:44
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I am not bitching at you. I am certainly not un happy because I am fitting into my old clothes, and getting compliments. It certainly offsets all the deep fried madness from last Friday and all the snacking in between. Don't get offended, I just don't know why people have to assume to lose weight I must be doing something health damaging. There are of course tricks in the beginning to use against your body's attempt to catch up to your dietary plan. But that only lasts so long before you get figured out.

I am going more long term then a week or two. I was on the right path before I arrived here, and after some time I had to take some decisions to set things straight. I understand everyone's concern, but I am eating very nutritious foods, and I am full when I need to be. Sometimes I am hungry, but it is only normal. I have another 10 to 15 kilos to lose, so this is not over, nor do I think I will drop another 12 in the next month. But with all my determination I will drop 5.
Well, good luck with it, cant answer on your original question, but, as somebody in constant battle to lose weight, overall its all gotta be good for you.
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Old 31.03.2012, 00:47
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Well, good luck with it, cant answer on your original question, but, as somebody in constant battle to lose weight, overall its all gotta be good for you.
I don't know why can't thank you, but if I could I would, My knees still hurt and feel like they fly too far out.
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I don't know why can't thank you, but if I could I would, My knees still hurt and feel like they fly too far out.
Like they over extend? I think you need to build the muscle back up.
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Like they over extend? I think you need to build the muscle back up.
When I loose enough fat, otherwise the muscle will push the fat out.
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Old 31.03.2012, 01:22
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Re: Health Question pertaining to weight loss

A friend of mine at work lost 20kg in 3 months and he is in perfect shape and didn't report any problems with bones/joints afterwards.
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When I loose enough fat, otherwise the muscle will push the fat out.
What??

Okay, you seem convinced that this diet is working ( and that you believe the weight will not go back on afterwarda) Nil has asked twice, and I have asked too; Are you going to share some information regarding what this amazing diet is? Or are you going to keep it all to yourelf? You hint at something "special" that helps in the early days. What? (or are you going to publish a book< so keeping this amazing diet a secret till then.)


To respond o a couple of earlier posters: that percentage idea, is not based on fact. ( though one could presume that a 48kilo adult has less fat to potentially lose than one who weighs 200kg.) Also a person with more fat could also be retaining much more water, which , with a change of diet, could quickly cause a larger initial weight loss. So could a diet containing a lot of roughage, in a person who has been habitually carrying gunge in their gut.

Chappers: my understanding of this is a little different , that often themetabolic rate will slow down, thus conserving energy, over a period od time if eating less that what is needed to sustain the status quo. An increase in exercise during this time is sometimes said to overcome this.

Nil, you don't need to lose weight! :-)
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Re: Health Question pertaining to weight loss

As no-one appears to have a concrete answer to your question about your knees, perhaps a trip to the doctor would be in order? To make sure no damage has been done and to find the answer you are looking for?

As I said before I am glad you have found something that works for you and wish you luck on your weight loss journey.
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If your knees feel like they are moving too far out, it might be the change in your body's proportions. 12kg less is about 25lbs and 100 lbs pressure less on each knee). if the 4lb per pound lost is applied. So it could be a big change in a short time and your body needs to adjust.

Do your knee joints hurt or the muscles around them on your leg? My thought is that with such a rapid weight loss in a short time it could be metabolic, electrolyte, could be felt in the muscles. But I don't know.

My guess is that it's an adjustment to rapidly changing proportions though. But I'm not an expert.
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Did you even read my posts? I said this was not a crash diet. I said I have something that works for me. I have said I have done this before. And yet you want to talk about crash diets, even though this thread is about rapid weight loss and it's effects on joints. So please don't read anything else and tell your point of view on the current crisis in Syria cause I am dying to know.


If you've done it before then it obviously didn't work properly - which means you'll be doing it again.

I'm on a slow weight reduction programme - my own - my answer is eat less, cook only fresh produce, no ice-creams, no crisps, no junk, no fatty meats (fleischkase and the like), very little alcohol and a lot more walking. I allow myself a little chocolate each day but that's it. I've so far, in four months, lost 6kg and have another 6kg to go - but very slowly. Once I'm where I want to be (82kg) I'll stick to my food regime to avoid a 'new start'. I've noticed that my hunger has adjusted and that I enjoy my food more. As a one-time gout sufferer my new lifestyle did bring back some pain in my knees, feet and toes; my doctor told me this was normal in the beginning as the kidneys have to find a new routine (so to speak) for ridding themselves of the uric acid as they are no longer being constantly bombarded with work. And so it is, the pains have gone and I'm as happy as a sandboy.
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What??

Okay, you seem convinced that this diet is working ( and that you believe the weight will not go back on afterwarda) Nil has asked twice, and I have asked too; Are you going to share some information regarding what this amazing diet is? Or are you going to keep it all to yourelf? You hint at something "special" that helps in the early days. What? (or are you going to publish a book< so keeping this amazing diet a secret till then.)

Nil, you don't need to lose weight! :-)
Maybe it is some pills or the like and he doesn't want to say it, which would explain his obstination to ignore my very polite request...

Thanks honey, I just have a 5 kilos I want to get rid for being back to my pre-pre- pregnancy shape. And if the guy can lose so much in a month, imagine how fast I could lose that bit!!
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Old 31.03.2012, 10:11
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If you've done it before then it obviously didn't work properly - which means you'll be doing it again.

I'm on a slow weight reduction programme - my own - my answer is eat less, cook only fresh produce, no ice-creams, no crisps, no junk, no fatty meats (fleischkase and the like), very little alcohol and a lot more walking. I allow myself a little chocolate each day but that's it. I've so far, in four months, lost 6kg and have another 6kg to go - but very slowly. Once I'm where I want to be (82kg) I'll stick to my food regime to avoid a 'new start'. I've noticed that my hunger has adjusted and that I enjoy my food more. As a one-time gout sufferer my new lifestyle did bring back some pain in my knees, feet and toes; my doctor told me this was normal in the beginning as the kidneys have to find a new routine (so to speak) for ridding themselves of the uric acid as they are no longer being constantly bombarded with work. And so it is, the pains have gone and I'm as happy as a sandboy.
+1

Well done Busby on the weight loss, seems you have a sensible plan.

OP, what is your body composition, have you lost just fat or lean mass or both?

If you have lost just lean mass then yeah no surprise your knees are hurting.
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Thanks honey, I just have a 5 kilos I want to get rid for being back to my pre-pre- pregnancy shape. And if the guy can lose so much in a month, imagine how fast I could lose that bit!!
Well done with getting back into shape, it is better to take a bit more time and lose the weight in a healthy way.
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Old 31.03.2012, 10:53
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Re: Health Question pertaining to weight loss

Sorry, but even if there was a doctor viewing this thread, orthopedic or otherwise, no one can have a "hard answer" for you without a physical examination. It's as simple as that.

Aches are one thing, but pain is a symptom of something larger. If you are concerned, the only real way to put your mind at ease is to go see a doctor. Period.
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