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Sorry, but even if there was a doctor viewing this thread, orthopedic or otherwise, no one can have a "hard answer" for you without a physical examination. It's as simple as that.

Aches are one thing, but pain is a symptom of something larger. If you are concerned, the only real way to put your mind at ease is to go see a doctor. Period.
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Good advice, will be interesting if the OP takes the advice and even more interesting if he posted back afterwards.
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I'll ask again,

Would you please, share it with me? Or us?
Hello, I hadn't responded until now because I decided to go out and didn't wake up until about now. I had a long week.

It's not that I don't want to respond to what I am doing, it's just that I don't think you can only one or two of things, like so many people do, like I did when I would read about diets, and in the end it's of no use. Plus people have to be committed to it. And cheating will never make it work.

The first time I did this, which was the only other time, I was only taking a year in advance outlook to be 1 kilo lighter. I was always putting on weight after I got married, and especially after my wife got pregnant. I went on a prescribed diet from a doctor, and failed a week or two into it, adding more weight. I also at one point before the first 27 kilo loss went on the Blood Type diet, which was NY Times best seller, and actually put on 7 pounds.
It's when I relized I do know a lot about health food, metabolism, food nutrition/preparation/and consumption, and why not try something I know about instead of checking the packaging to see how many LDL's, transfats, cholesterol and etc.

The reason, as I said before, I am doing another diet of this size is not because the first one did not work. For it to really work you have to change your attitude, your lifestyle, and hopefully do not get depressed along the way(depression I do not mean about food; about life). I think being overweight has a lot of double negatives to it that make the person even more locked into it. I really believe the more un happy you are about your weight/self, the more weight you will put on. This does have the effect on a few people to get motivated and make a change, but not on most of us.

When I also did that first diet I was still living in an area where high quality food was more affordable, because doing a diet like this can cost a lot of money.
When we moved to Switzerland we could only really afford(as I said before) pork,pasta, and potatoes. I also at first wasn't happy to move here for a variety of reasons, the weather being in a state where it rained almost every single day for about 4 or 5 months didn't help either.
Up until recently I have had a very rough last couple of years on a personal side, which I feel I do not need to discuss here, and have not always been in a situation where the healthiest foods were even an option.
Now that I see I am getting older I want to make the weight change because it won't get any easier and I am concerned about my health.

I wasn't avoiding your questions, but I didn't want to answer them on a one liner that didn't really answer anything and allowed for someone to over analyze it.

I have been told by friends, by doctors, and so on different schemes, different kinds of foods I can and can't eat. But I think we all know what is bad for us.

I don't know where to start.
One, investing in a silicone kitchen brush and some non stick cook wear is helpful. I am always hearing how Olive Oil is the miracle food, and even though it has it's benefits, I think it's biggest benefit is how it is the lesser evil of the other oils. I always see people and other chefs pouring it onto of everything, the fact is it still is real fatty. I think that or a vitamin E concentrated oil lightly brushed onto a pan when cooking is all you need to pan fry a chicken breast or fish.
My amount of oil consumption used to be a bottle of olive oil for about every month/month and half. With the brush I was using the same bottle over the course of a year.

Poach much more now. Simply adding a non oil based bouillon, or squeezed lemon/lime, a bay leaf, salt, dried chiles if you like(sorry if I have offended anyone from the Mexican food thread, dried peppers that are hot), and slowly cook. If you have the time you can keep pieces of fish frozen that aren't too thick, bring the water to a boil, put the fish in, wait for it to return to a boil, then drop the heat down to heat mark 1/2. Not only do you avoid using fat, some of the fat from the fish will be pulled into the water, making it less fatty.

The fact is, is the food has to be tasty otherwise it's torture to eat it. Choosing what to eat is very important as well. If you want to add nutrients, but not lose as much weight, eat more "fatty" fishes like Salmon, Sardines, or Mackerel. The colder the water where the fish comes from, the fish have more fat to keep them warm, they almost always have more natural flavor to them. Warm water fish may have less fat, but they aren't as naturally tasty, so while they are technically less fatty, people find themselves too tempted to add more salt, or butter, or sauce, etc to make up for the lack of taste, and end up making the fish less healthy and cheating on the diet part.

You see this is long. There is a lot more that I am doing. But as far as answering the pills question I will say this. This time I am not taking any vitamins only because I didn't get to the store yet. Last time I took B12, Magnesium, Vitamin E and D.
This time like last time, and through out my life I have taken Fucus, or Kelp/Seaweed pills. Or I will eat seaweed, purchased at Asian stores. I love how sea weed tastes because when I was a kid there was an Asian store in our neighborhood and they would sell crispy deep fried sea weed, and it was awesome. It's does speed up your metabolism. AND you can't take the pills for more then 3 weeks at a time, 2 times a day before a meal. Otherwise it gives your body too much something. And I never do.
When I was younger I already had a high metabolism, but like all of us when we get older, normally mid 20's, we might be eating the same, but our rate to metabolize food consumed slows and takes more energy. Adding a natural supplement helps to burn fat naturally. I am not taking 10 of these pills a day, and the ones I have are organic, and as I said before basically green weeds from the ocean floor. But it is healthy. But again, I wouldn't be able to do that alone.

I am doing a lot more things and I can explain those as well, but it's not simply one thing or two. I hope I haven't been too boring.
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To respond o a couple of earlier posters: that percentage idea, is not based on fact. ( though one could presume that a 48kilo adult has less fat to potentially lose than one who weighs 200kg.) Also a person with more fat could also be retaining much more water, which , with a change of diet, could quickly cause a larger initial weight loss. So could a diet containing a lot of roughage, in a person who has been habitually carrying gunge in their gut.
I don't understand what you are saying here.

The percentages I gave were fact.

Making things simple, if someone weighs twice as much as someone else, the extra weight is more than likely to be fat rather than bones or muscle (because I think we can assume that a body builder would probably know that it was the muscle that was making them heavy - it would be a bit obvious).

But I agree, you can loose a few kilos in a day through loss of fluids and dehydration.
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Hello, I hadn't responded until now because I decided to go out and didn't wake up until about now. I had a long week.

It's not that I don't want to respond to what I am doing, it's just that I don't think you can only one or two of things, like so many people do, like I did when I would read about diets, and in the end it's of no use. Plus people have to be committed to it. And cheating will never make it work.

The first time I did this, which was the only other time, I was only taking a year in advance outlook to be 1 kilo lighter. I was always putting on weight after I got married, and especially after my wife got pregnant. I went on a prescribed diet from a doctor, and failed a week or two into it, adding more weight. I also at one point before the first 27 kilo loss went on the Blood Type diet, which was NY Times best seller, and actually put on 7 pounds.
It's when I relized I do know a lot about health food, metabolism, food nutrition/preparation/and consumption, and why not try something I know about instead of checking the packaging to see how many LDL's, transfats, cholesterol and etc.

The reason, as I said before, I am doing another diet of this size is not because the first one did not work. For it to really work you have to change your attitude, your lifestyle, and hopefully do not get depressed along the way(depression I do not mean about food; about life). I think being overweight has a lot of double negatives to it that make the person even more locked into it. I really believe the more un happy you are about your weight/self, the more weight you will put on. This does have the effect on a few people to get motivated and make a change, but not on most of us.

When I also did that first diet I was still living in an area where high quality food was more affordable, because doing a diet like this can cost a lot of money.
When we moved to Switzerland we could only really afford(as I said before) pork,pasta, and potatoes. I also at first wasn't happy to move here for a variety of reasons, the weather being in a state where it rained almost every single day for about 4 or 5 months didn't help either.
Up until recently I have had a very rough last couple of years on a personal side, which I feel I do not need to discuss here, and have not always been in a situation where the healthiest foods were even an option.
Now that I see I am getting older I want to make the weight change because it won't get any easier and I am concerned about my health.

I wasn't avoiding your questions, but I didn't want to answer them on a one liner that didn't really answer anything and allowed for someone to over analyze it.

I have been told by friends, by doctors, and so on different schemes, different kinds of foods I can and can't eat. But I think we all know what is bad for us.

I don't know where to start.
One, investing in a silicone kitchen brush and some non stick cook wear is helpful. I am always hearing how Olive Oil is the miracle food, and even though it has it's benefits, I think it's biggest benefit is how it is the lesser evil of the other oils. I always see people and other chefs pouring it onto of everything, the fact is it still is real fatty. I think that or a vitamin E concentrated oil lightly brushed onto a pan when cooking is all you need to pan fry a chicken breast or fish.
My amount of oil consumption used to be a bottle of olive oil for about every month/month and half. With the brush I was using the same bottle over the course of a year.

Poach much more now. Simply adding a non oil based bouillon, or squeezed lemon/lime, a bay leaf, salt, dried chiles if you like(sorry if I have offended anyone from the Mexican food thread, dried peppers that are hot), and slowly cook. If you have the time you can keep pieces of fish frozen that aren't too thick, bring the water to a boil, put the fish in, wait for it to return to a boil, then drop the heat down to heat mark 1/2. Not only do you avoid using fat, some of the fat from the fish will be pulled into the water, making it less fatty.

The fact is, is the food has to be tasty otherwise it's torture to eat it. Choosing what to eat is very important as well. If you want to add nutrients, but not lose as much weight, eat more "fatty" fishes like Salmon, Sardines, or Mackerel. The colder the water where the fish comes from, the fish have more fat to keep them warm, they almost always have more natural flavor to them. Warm water fish may have less fat, but they aren't as naturally tasty, so while they are technically less fatty, people find themselves too tempted to add more salt, or butter, or sauce, etc to make up for the lack of taste, and end up making the fish less healthy and cheating on the diet part.

You see this is long. There is a lot more that I am doing. But as far as answering the pills question I will say this. This time I am not taking any vitamins only because I didn't get to the store yet. Last time I took B12, Magnesium, Vitamin E and D.
This time like last time, and through out my life I have taken Fucus, or Kelp/Seaweed pills. Or I will eat seaweed, purchased at Asian stores. I love how sea weed tastes because when I was a kid there was an Asian store in our neighborhood and they would sell crispy deep fried sea weed, and it was awesome. It's does speed up your metabolism. AND you can't take the pills for more then 3 weeks at a time, 2 times a day before a meal. Otherwise it gives your body too much something. And I never do.
When I was younger I already had a high metabolism, but like all of us when we get older, normally mid 20's, we might be eating the same, but our rate to metabolize food consumed slows and takes more energy. Adding a natural supplement helps to burn fat naturally. I am not taking 10 of these pills a day, and the ones I have are organic, and as I said before basically green weeds from the ocean floor. But it is healthy. But again, I wouldn't be able to do that alone.

I am doing a lot more things and I can explain those as well, but it's not simply one thing or two. I hope I haven't been too boring.

For the love of Mike!!

Why don't you just eat less and just fill those empty moments with an apple or some nuts, refuse anything that has been produced in a factory or is in a packet, stick to fresh vegetables, have a small salad every day, push all sweet things to one side, forget about vitamins; trace elements; green weeds; pills; nutrients; silicone kitchen brushes; and all the rest. It's all a lie. Just cut down on the calories by eating natural things that are cheap and easily found.
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Old 31.03.2012, 17:06
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There should be a Health column on here btw.

If some one losses a lot of weight, 12 kilos in less the a month, and intends to lose more, 25 to 40 total, is it possible they could suffer from either short term or LT problems with their knees associated with the legs being used to pushing around a certain weight, and then going at the same rate, and having less to push, there fore, causing pain to the knees over exerting them?
I have a 'knee issue' too, which came partially from twisting my leg last year while skiing, though that healed quite quickly but I did not use the leg that much for quite some time. Then I started walking a lot again and swimming and biking and the muscles started to built up again. As the muscles are now much more tense they are pressing down on the knee and as such I have a pain in my knee.

The simple solution for that case: stretch

If I just stretch the muscles once in a while I do not have that pain anymore, if I forget for a few days then it comes back again.

This might not be the solution for you, it was for my situation thus might be something to look into. (Thanks to Dr. Carmen Grosse the great folks at http://www.orthopaedie-oerlikon.ch/ and http://www.orthoplus.ch/ for this and a lot of other tips!)

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I just have a 5 kilos I want to get rid for being back to my pre-pre- pregnancy shape. And if the guy can lose so much in a month, imagine how fast I could lose that bit!!
As you likely know, those last 5 kilos are always the most difficult, especially if you want to have them gone from an area that is likely to go last.... thus I can only wish you a lot of good luck with it.


I am on a 'diet' also kind of (I really can't call it that I guess compared to what some people do) but that mostly involves quite a bit of sports (I walk nearly everywhere, go hiking or for a forest-walk at least twice a week, swim nearly every day for an hour doing 4km+ each time, situps, pushups and quite a bit of stretching now too) and most importantly: regular eating. IMHO one of course has to watch out what one eats, but if the calorie intake is always regular then your body will get used to having that and if it is sufficient for keeping the engine that is your body running it won't start storing fat if you just scare it by not feeding it anymore.
This simple method does not have one losing several kilos per month, but one does have a much more healthy live which will last a lot longer when your brain is used to doing it that way and in the longer term the kilos do go off and generally actually are replaced by muscle which tend to weigh quite a bit more than those blurbs of fat that used to be there.
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All the medical evidence clearly states that losing that much weight so quickly, especially without medical supervision, is dangerous, not only for your knees, but for your heart and all vital organs, and can even lead to death. We are talking about nearly 2 stones in a month here, and that following another 4 stones before that in a short time.
Even with a very high starting weight, this is just not the way to do it, unless your are very closely followed up by a doctor to check kidney function. blood pressure, etc, etc, etc. Please take care.
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All the medical evidence clearly states that losing that much weight so quickly, especially without medical supervision, is dangerous, not only for your knees, but for your heart and all vital organs, and can even lead to death. We are talking about nearly 2 stones in a month here, and that following another 4 stones before that in a short time.
Even with a very high starting weight, this is just not the way to do it, unless your are very closely followed up by a doctor to check kidney function. blood pressure, etc, etc, etc. Please take care.
... I Agree.
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For the love of Mike!!

Why don't you just eat less and just fill those empty moments with an apple or some nuts, refuse anything that has been produced in a factory or is in a packet, stick to fresh vegetables, have a small salad every day, push all sweet things to one side, forget about vitamins; trace elements; green weeds; pills; nutrients; silicone kitchen brushes; and all the rest. It's all a lie. Just cut down on the calories by eating natural things that are cheap and easily found.
This is exactly why I didn't want to get into details of this diet. I asked about weight loss and how it may effect my knees from a diet that is worked for me, and in return I get attacked and called a liar.

Cut down on the calories by eating natural things eh? The fact that I am having a great loss of weight isn't because I have stopped eating. It isn't because I have stopped drinking water. It's not because I am doing something extreme. I have changed my metabolism to work in a direction where it is cutting fat.

I really do not need to hear your ideas on what I should do to lose weight. Fruits and nuts and whatever of the like contain a lot of fat, and consuming fatty foods will not get me to lose weight. Most of the vegetarians I know are over weight. Now vegetarian does not have to mean healthy eaters, but they are. Snacking will not lead me to weight loss.
I really don't know why I asked for help about my muscles, and have to be called a liar.
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I don't understand what you are saying here.

The percentages I gave were fact.

Making things simple, if someone weighs twice as much as someone else, the extra weight is more than likely to be fat rather than bones or muscle (because I think we can assume that a body builder would probably know that it was the muscle that was making them heavy - it would be a bit obvious).

But I agree, you can loose a few kilos in a day through loss of fluids and dehydration.
Perhaps the message that I read that you wrote, was not the message that you wrote and thought would be read.

Yes, of course 12kg is 6% of 200kg, and 12kg is 25% of 48kg. But your comment above that had given me the impression that you were okaying the rapid weight loss in relation to a high starting body weight.... or something.... I forget now..... From what I have read of lab studies, a very gradual weight loss is always better, regardless of starting weight.

And obviously, an adult who weighs only 48kg probably has very little excess weight anyway.
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This is exactly why I didn't want to get into details of this diet. I asked about weight loss and how it may effect my knees from a diet that is worked for me, and in return I get attacked and called a liar.
I have changed my metabolism to work in a direction where it is cutting fat.
I really don't know why I asked for help about my muscles, and have to be called a liar.
OKay, so I am still curious, so please don't get cross and flounce off. ( we have had enough flouncers for one year. )

From the information you have given, you are cooking and eating poached and dry/cooked fish, plus a supplement of a seaweed based supplement. What else? Fish is obvioulsy a high protein food. Are you excluding all fats? What about carbs? (I have known weightlifting body builders who have lived on fish , but also ate rice for carbs, with no fats when trying to reduce fat, but build/keep muscle at the same time. )

You have alluded to another organic supplement. What is it? Or was that also with reference to the seaweed?

Do you know what your daily food intake is in terms of calories, per day?
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All the medical evidence clearly states that losing that much weight so quickly, especially without medical supervision, is dangerous, not only for your knees, but for your heart and all vital organs, and can even lead to death. We are talking about nearly 2 stones in a month here, and that following another 4 stones before that in a short time.
Even with a very high starting weight, this is just not the way to do it, unless your are very closely followed up by a doctor to check kidney function. blood pressure, etc, etc, etc. Please take care.
I appreciate that you are concerned. I am consuming 2 to 3 meals a day. I am eating mineral and vitamin rich food. I have increased the amount of walking I do to 20 to 30 minutes a day. I am trying to get more rest. I haven't felt dizzy, nor weak, except in the beginning(not dizzy, only weak). And like I said earlier, I am getting enough fluids. I normally drank a lot of water in the past(the amount one should probably drink daily). With the dry air here especially. But for better body function, I drink about 3 to 4 liters of water a day. It helps to keep me full feeling.

I would like to mention I probably would have lost even more weight if I didn't have an occasional beer and wine as well. This may seem like a full on diet, but it's not as extreme as it may sound. I think part of a well being is to allow one's self a "treat" once in a while. And again I want this to be part of a lifestyle change.

PS, I almost never eat salad, in life in general. Unless I sprinkle it with a little balsamic vinegar and fleur de sel. I mean what's the point of eating leaves if you are going to dump a fatty olive oil or whatever oil/yogurt based dressing on it? Plus salad leaves in general aren't very nutrient based. It's assumed they are, but they only are when they come from soil that has been rotated. And since most land isn't or it's hydroponically grown, it's almost a waste of time.
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OKay, so I am still curious, so please don't get cross and flounce off. ( we have had enough flouncers for one year. )

From the information you have given, you are cooking and eating poached and dry/cooked fish, plus a supplement of a seaweed based supplement. What else? Fish is obvioulsy a high protein food. Are you excluding all fats? What about carbs? (I have known weightlifting body builders who have lived on fish , but also ate rice for carbs, with no fats when trying to reduce fat, but build/keep muscle at the same time. )

You have alluded to another organic supplement. What is it? Or was that also with reference to the seaweed?

Do you know what your daily food intake is in terms of calories, per day?
I'm not upset with you, but when some one posts that what I have written is a lie, well...
The supplement was the Kelp, that's all. I am getting away personally from synthetic vitamins that act as triggers but aren't actually the vitamins they represent. And instead try to get vitamins from food itself.

I do eat white rice with just salt. And yesterday had a heaping bowl of pasta, plain with salt and some dried herbs.

I don't know my actual daily in take of calories. I would guess about 250 from wine when I have it. The only other beverages I am having since being on the diet have been espressos plain, water, and the occasional green or infusion tea-no sugar or anything added, oh yeah and Guinness.

I have had alot of fish. Also calves liver(though I know not to over do it cause if you eat a lot of it, say like a kilo in a week, it can kill you), which is a powerhouse in vitamins. And vegetables that have been boiled, but not over cooked, with only salt added.

Any other questions?
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If some one losses a lot of weight, 12 kilos in less the a month, and intends to lose more, 25 to 40 total, is it possible they could suffer from either short term or LT problems with their knees associated with the legs being used to pushing around a certain weight, and then going at the same rate, and having less to push, there fore, causing pain to the knees over exerting them?
Simply said: This is not how it works and it's not possible. Your knees have to lift what they have to, they don't do "zombie lifts". Or do you bounce like a goat since you lost weight?

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I am always hearing how Olive Oil is the miracle food, and even though it has it's benefits, I think it's biggest benefit is how it is the lesser evil of the other oils. I always see people and other chefs pouring it onto of everything, the fact is it still is real fatty.


I'm always amazed about how less cooks know about nutrition. Olive oil is widely considered to be more healthy than other oils because of antioxidants and monounsaturated fats. True or not, it has nothing to do with gaining less weight.
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Simply said: This is not how it works and it's not possible. Your knees have to lift what they have to, they don't do "zombie lifts". Or do you bounce like a goat since you lost weight?




I'm always amazed about how less cooks know about nutrition. Olive oil is widely considered to be more healthy than other oils because of antioxidants and monounsaturated fats. True or not, it has nothing to do with gaining less weight.
Yeah I know that about olive oil. But consuming oil, especially more then necessary WILL add weight. There are plenty of drinks available to consume if you want anti-oxidant properties and not gain so much on weight. For example the Pomegranate, Cranberry, Blueberry juices I have been drinking, with red wine and green tea. Oil is not necessary for good health in humans. It's a product that is obtained by a mechanical/industrial process. I have had to take nutritional courses, and I am constantly reading health studies on food products.

You don't need to be amazed for me. Consuming oil, especially in large quantities certainly will not lower your chances of having a heart attack, and will add fat. Mono or not, it is fat, and it is what I am trying to lose.

Some one consuming what is currently the "science" in health foods, can still be overweight. I am amazed how you believe that I shouldn't cut olive oil. I certainly don't need it to survive.

And back to my knees...
Prior to losing weight I was far less active because I didn't have the energy or the motivation to walk more then I needed to. Since I have lost the weight, I feel that I am pushing(without first thinking about it) my body as hard as I was for the same weight, and kind of jolting faster along because I am carrying less. It's like pushing the gas pedal down on a car that has been loaded up with 8 people, and now is only carrying 4. Plus I am pushing myself more, because I am more motivated then before.

Also, I did not set out to lose a lot of weight in a short period of time, the goal was much more longer term. And, I have read cases of when people dramatically shifted their diets, although this does not mean starving themselves either, that they experienced weight loss of 25 to 30 pounds in a month's time. I am not trying to justify, but I am saying, I feel very healthy and happy, and motivated to continue on.
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I'm not upset with you, but when some one posts that what I have written is a lie, well...
The supplement was the Kelp, that's all. I am getting away personally from synthetic vitamins that act as triggers but aren't actually the vitamins they represent. And instead try to get vitamins from food itself.

I do eat white rice with just salt. And yesterday had a heaping bowl of pasta, plain with salt and some dried herbs.

I don't know my actual daily in take of calories. I would guess about 250 from wine when I have it. The only other beverages I am having since being on the diet have been espressos plain, water, and the occasional green or infusion tea-no sugar or anything added, oh yeah and Guinness.

I have had alot of fish. Also calves liver(though I know not to over do it cause if you eat a lot of it, say like a kilo in a week, it can kill you), which is a powerhouse in vitamins. And vegetables that have been boiled, but not over cooked, with only salt added.

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Instead to boil your veggies, steam them. You'll keep even more vitamins.
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This is exactly why I didn't want to get into details of this diet. I asked about weight loss and how it may effect my knees from a diet that is worked for me, and in return I get attacked and called a liar.

Cut down on the calories by eating natural things eh? The fact that I am having a great loss of weight isn't because I have stopped eating. It isn't because I have stopped drinking water. It's not because I am doing something extreme. I have changed my metabolism to work in a direction where it is cutting fat.

I really do not need to hear your ideas on what I should do to lose weight. Fruits and nuts and whatever of the like contain a lot of fat, and consuming fatty foods will not get me to lose weight. Most of the vegetarians I know are over weight. Now vegetarian does not have to mean healthy eaters, but they are. Snacking will not lead me to weight loss.
I really don't know why I asked for help about my muscles, and have to be called a liar.
I didn't say you were a liar. I said that all this foozle about green weeds and all the rest is a waste of time. All I was saying is eat simply, eat natural foods and cut down on quantities.
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It's all a lie. Just cut down on the calories by eating natural things that are cheap and easily found.
You didn't call me a liar, but said all what I said was a lie. Interesting.

But any case, cutting back is one way to do it, and this way has worked for me.

And again, as I said, I enjoy the taste of sea weed. So it's not foozle for me, but again I wasn't trying to get people to do my diet, people asked me, so I responded. It's something that makes me feel more committed to the process. AND, I already own all that stuff. If it was just as easy as you said I think more people would be doing it. And it can be, but when the results come too slowly people lose motivation.
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Instead to boil your veggies, steam them. You'll keep even more vitamins.
Yeah that can be true. And I do that as well. Thanks though.
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You didn't call me a liar, but said all what I said was a lie. Interesting.

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No, I didn't say all you said was a lie, read it again. You are twisting my words. Never mind - you obviously know what you are doing about losing weight as you have done it before - you said.
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No, I didn't say all you said was a lie, read it again. You are twisting my words. Never mind - you obviously know what you are doing about losing weight as you have done it before - you said.
Look, it was my mistake for posting something personal to me on here. I should expect people who don't know me to pass judgment and complain about things that are not even relevant to what was my original question.

I'll try to avoid such personal threads in the future, and seek the advice of people I personally know.
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