Go Back   English Forum Switzerland > Off-Topic > Off-Topic > General off-topic  
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #21  
Old 26.09.2012, 15:49
sashimiso's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: riehen
Posts: 549
Groaned at 58 Times in 30 Posts
Thanked 414 Times in 224 Posts
sashimiso has an excellent reputationsashimiso has an excellent reputationsashimiso has an excellent reputationsashimiso has an excellent reputation
Re: grammar question (English)

Quote:
View Post
I walked past the tram stop.
that is two funny
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 26.09.2012, 15:49
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: grammar question (English)

Quote:
View Post
Many have an excellent on the English language
An excellent what?
Quote:
View Post
but constantly use improper phrases.
What, they keep repeating them without stopping?
Quote:
View Post
I assume because they are so commonly used and no one has corrected them.
No-one.
Quote:
View Post
You would say..
...
Quote:
View Post
Read what I was refering to!
Referring
Quote:
View Post
Horrifyingly, my best friend (an English teacher) constantly writes...
Must get a very tired arm then - what happens when she runs out of ink?
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 26.09.2012, 15:51
Kamarate's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Neuchatel
Posts: 1,914
Groaned at 57 Times in 38 Posts
Thanked 1,619 Times in 685 Posts
Kamarate has a reputation beyond reputeKamarate has a reputation beyond reputeKamarate has a reputation beyond reputeKamarate has a reputation beyond reputeKamarate has a reputation beyond reputeKamarate has a reputation beyond repute
Re: grammar question (English)

I don't understand your point about what I wrote. Would you care to clarify?
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 26.09.2012, 15:58
Chemmie's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Zurich
Posts: 4,144
Groaned at 33 Times in 29 Posts
Thanked 4,951 Times in 2,233 Posts
Chemmie has a reputation beyond reputeChemmie has a reputation beyond reputeChemmie has a reputation beyond reputeChemmie has a reputation beyond reputeChemmie has a reputation beyond reputeChemmie has a reputation beyond repute
Re: grammar question (English)

Quote:
View Post
I don't understand your point about what I wrote. Would you care to clarify?
I would question the correction with "but constantly use improper phrases" as well, sounds more like poor skills in comprehension.

No one is also generally accepted over that hyphenated version.

Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 26.09.2012, 16:00
NotAllThere's Avatar
Modulo 2
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Baselland
Posts: 14,496
Groaned at 280 Times in 239 Posts
Thanked 21,736 Times in 8,817 Posts
NotAllThere has a reputation beyond reputeNotAllThere has a reputation beyond reputeNotAllThere has a reputation beyond reputeNotAllThere has a reputation beyond reputeNotAllThere has a reputation beyond reputeNotAllThere has a reputation beyond repute
Re: grammar question (English)

Quote:
View Post
You are correct. It is plain wrong and sloppy to boot. It is bad enough someone saying it, but writing it...
Bad grammar is one thing, but "could of" shows a level of ignorance I find painful. You don't say "I of a book". "I of been working".
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 26.09.2012, 16:00
Kamarate's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Neuchatel
Posts: 1,914
Groaned at 57 Times in 38 Posts
Thanked 1,619 Times in 685 Posts
Kamarate has a reputation beyond reputeKamarate has a reputation beyond reputeKamarate has a reputation beyond reputeKamarate has a reputation beyond reputeKamarate has a reputation beyond reputeKamarate has a reputation beyond repute
Re: grammar question (English)

Maybe it's my exhaustion due to my arsehole neighbours, but I still don't get it.

EDIT: @ Chemmie
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 26.09.2012, 16:03
Jobsrobertsharpii's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Z-U-R-I-C-H
Posts: 2,335
Groaned at 173 Times in 124 Posts
Thanked 3,384 Times in 1,536 Posts
Jobsrobertsharpii has a reputation beyond reputeJobsrobertsharpii has a reputation beyond reputeJobsrobertsharpii has a reputation beyond reputeJobsrobertsharpii has a reputation beyond reputeJobsrobertsharpii has a reputation beyond reputeJobsrobertsharpii has a reputation beyond repute
Re: grammar question (English)

All your base are belong to us...

Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 26.09.2012, 16:04
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Lenk im Simmental
Posts: 1,123
Groaned at 95 Times in 57 Posts
Thanked 750 Times in 404 Posts
Keith66 has earned the respect of manyKeith66 has earned the respect of manyKeith66 has earned the respect of many
Re: grammar question (English)

Quote:
An excellent what?
What, they keep repeating them without stopping?
No-one.
...
Referring
Must get a very tired arm then - what happens when she runs out of ink?
You are going to have to be so , so careful what you write from now on mate
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 26.09.2012, 16:07
Kamarate's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Neuchatel
Posts: 1,914
Groaned at 57 Times in 38 Posts
Thanked 1,619 Times in 685 Posts
Kamarate has a reputation beyond reputeKamarate has a reputation beyond reputeKamarate has a reputation beyond reputeKamarate has a reputation beyond reputeKamarate has a reputation beyond reputeKamarate has a reputation beyond repute
Re: grammar question (English)

I still don't understand. Is it to do with my use of the word "constantly"? According to the Cambridge Online Dictionary, it means "all the time" or "often".

Link

If you're going to be a pedant, do it correctly.
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 26.09.2012, 16:08
Chemmie's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Zurich
Posts: 4,144
Groaned at 33 Times in 29 Posts
Thanked 4,951 Times in 2,233 Posts
Chemmie has a reputation beyond reputeChemmie has a reputation beyond reputeChemmie has a reputation beyond reputeChemmie has a reputation beyond reputeChemmie has a reputation beyond reputeChemmie has a reputation beyond repute
Re: grammar question (English)

Quote:
View Post
Maybe it's my exhaustion due to my arsehole neighbours, but I still don't get it.

EDIT: @ Chemmie
Sorry, quoting your post wasn't to answer, rather to add similar confusion.

The point Ace was trying to make, is that the word "constantly" can refer to something continuing, without pause. We both used it correctly to describe a recurring event.
Reply With Quote
  #31  
Old 26.09.2012, 16:11
Kamarate's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Neuchatel
Posts: 1,914
Groaned at 57 Times in 38 Posts
Thanked 1,619 Times in 685 Posts
Kamarate has a reputation beyond reputeKamarate has a reputation beyond reputeKamarate has a reputation beyond reputeKamarate has a reputation beyond reputeKamarate has a reputation beyond reputeKamarate has a reputation beyond repute
Re: grammar question (English)

OK, I get your post now. Right, so my previous post stands!
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old 26.09.2012, 16:14
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: grammar question (English)

Quote:
View Post
I don't understand your point about what I wrote. Would you care to clarify?
"Constantly" implies non-stop. You mean consistently, or frequently.

Just an uber-pedant, is all.
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 26.09.2012, 16:15
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Lenk im Simmental
Posts: 1,123
Groaned at 95 Times in 57 Posts
Thanked 750 Times in 404 Posts
Keith66 has earned the respect of manyKeith66 has earned the respect of manyKeith66 has earned the respect of many
Re: grammar question (English)

Constantly can be used to mean either continuously or frequently. It can mean going on all the time or happening again and again.
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 26.09.2012, 16:15
Jazz's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: St. Gallen
Posts: 253
Groaned at 3 Times in 2 Posts
Thanked 54 Times in 28 Posts
Jazz has earned some respectJazz has earned some respect
Re: grammar question (English)

Quote:
View Post
No, it is just indicative of the horrible condition of education in the USA.
nice to see that american bashing never goes out of fashion! Can't say this is unique to them though this time... plenty of brits with bad grammar
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 26.09.2012, 16:18
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Lenk im Simmental
Posts: 1,123
Groaned at 95 Times in 57 Posts
Thanked 750 Times in 404 Posts
Keith66 has earned the respect of manyKeith66 has earned the respect of manyKeith66 has earned the respect of many
Re: grammar question (English)

Quote:
"Constantly" implies non-stop. You mean consistently, or frequently.

Just an uber-pedant, is all.
I think you are wrong. It can also mean happening again and again.
Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old 26.09.2012, 16:19
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Lenk im Simmental
Posts: 1,123
Groaned at 95 Times in 57 Posts
Thanked 750 Times in 404 Posts
Keith66 has earned the respect of manyKeith66 has earned the respect of manyKeith66 has earned the respect of many
Re: grammar question (English)

Quote:
View Post
nice to see that american bashing never goes out of fashion! Can't say this is unique to them though this time... plenty of brits with bad grammar
Brits has a capital B
Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old 26.09.2012, 16:19
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: grammar question (English)

Quote:
View Post
Sorry, quoting your post wasn't to answer, rather to add similar confusion.

The point Ace was trying to make, is that the word "constantly" can refer to something continuing, without pause. We both used it correctly to describe a recurring event.
The point I was making, and being deliberately ironic, is that even when correcting, we're not correct. Your implied usage for 'repeating' is not a general dictionary definition of the term, but one that you both feel is used frequently enough to be understood in that context. Which of course it was, as were all of the other things I was "correcting".

Language changes continually (or constantly ), so if we are to pick holes in other people's usage we have to accept that the very 'rules' we're using to do so don't in fact exist outside of our own accepted norms.
Reply With Quote
  #38  
Old 26.09.2012, 16:20
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: grammar question (English)

Quote:
View Post
I think you are wrong. It can also mean happening again and again.
See other post. It can mean whatever anyone wants it to mean, provided that both the speaker and the listener agree on a given definition.
Reply With Quote
  #39  
Old 26.09.2012, 16:26
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Pittsburgh
Posts: 1,983
Groaned at 69 Times in 52 Posts
Thanked 5,074 Times in 1,802 Posts
crazygringo has a reputation beyond reputecrazygringo has a reputation beyond reputecrazygringo has a reputation beyond reputecrazygringo has a reputation beyond reputecrazygringo has a reputation beyond reputecrazygringo has a reputation beyond repute
Re: grammar question (English)

since we're being fetishist about grammar already...

the use of "have" or "had" in formal writing is sloppy to begin with, except perhaps to indicate ownership, and even then there are more expressive ways of indicating the same thing. "would have" or "would have been" are just completely inexcusable, and don't even get me started with "have had". contracting the "have" in phrases like "could have" or "might have" in written English is a completely unpardonable sin (which is where the "of" comes from), to the extent that using "have" in the first place isn't bad enough.

Reply With Quote
  #40  
Old 26.09.2012, 16:31
Chemmie's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Zurich
Posts: 4,144
Groaned at 33 Times in 29 Posts
Thanked 4,951 Times in 2,233 Posts
Chemmie has a reputation beyond reputeChemmie has a reputation beyond reputeChemmie has a reputation beyond reputeChemmie has a reputation beyond reputeChemmie has a reputation beyond reputeChemmie has a reputation beyond repute
Re: grammar question (English)

Quote:
The point I was making, and being deliberately ironic, is that even when correcting, we're not correct. Your implied usage for 'repeating' is not a general dictionary definition of the term, but one that you both feel is used frequently enough to be understood in that context. Which of course it was, as were all of the other things I was "correcting".

Language changes continually (or constantly ), so if we are to pick holes in other people's usage we have to accept that the very 'rules' we're using to do so don't in fact exist outside of our own accepted norms.
I see your point, but I would argue that the usage as 'repeating' IS a general dictionary definition of the term. Specifically, I have only seen one dictionary (in my quick comparative search), which only defines the word as you have. All the other instances refer to the 'repeating' use, commonly as the first definition as well.

But details, detail, details. (Sentence fragment)
Reply With Quote
Reply




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
English grammar question MrVertigo Language corner 38 11.10.2010 02:11
Grammar and pronunciation question kiwiguy08 Language corner 93 10.03.2009 18:58


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 04:31.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2022, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0