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Old 11.10.2012, 11:56
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What is Representation Allowance?

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I'm working as an SAP Functional Consultant. As part of my job role, I need to configure some Swiss specific statutory parts in system. So, Can some please explain what exactly is Representation Allowance?


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Old 11.10.2012, 12:06
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Re: What is Representation Allowance?

If you don't know, why don't you ask your client or your colleagues? If you're unable to do that because you're afraid of showing ignorance (did you not get proper training?), then try google (a definition of "representation allowance" was the second hit when I tried).

I am a SAP consultant of seventeen years experience. I'm afraid I've not much time for people who purport to be in the profession and can't even find the simplest things out for themselves.
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Old 11.10.2012, 12:07
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Re: What is Representation Allowance?

A representation allowance is a fixed monthly expense allowance instead of claiming back actual expenses. In my company, a sum (~200-300CHF) is generally paid to management-level employees each month to cover small, incidental expenses like tram tickets, coffees, etc under a certain threshold.

The idea is that the fixed allowance removes the burden on the employee of tracking and claiming the expenses, and the employer of having to process the expenses.

From my understanding, a representation allowance differs from salary in that it is non-taxable.
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Old 11.10.2012, 12:16
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A representation allowance is a fixed monthly expense allowance instead of claiming back actual expenses. In my company, a sum (~200-300CHF) is generally paid to management-level employees each month to cover small, incidental expenses like tram tickets, coffees, etc under a certain threshold.

The idea is that the fixed allowance removes the burden on the employee of tracking and claiming the expenses, and the employer of having to process the expenses.

From my understanding, a representation allowance differs from salary in that it is non-taxable.
Exactly.

The exact handling may vary from company to company. In my company there is a catalogue of things you can and cannot claim for. Generally I cannot claim for meals under 50 Francs, bus and tram tickets and train tickets under 50 Francs. I can claim for taxi trips but only if there is no public transport alternative (although as a definition that's a bit washy washy and some people stretch it). It's all a bit complicated and probably varies from company to company so the best thing is if you ask HR or your controller for the details.

Processing the smaller claims often costs more than they're worth, so all in all this is a good system.
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Re: What is Representation Allowance?

Hello NotAllThere,

Hope you are doing good!!
I do know how to configure this in the system based on the client specific requirement. I do not need your help for that. I'm curious to know what exactly is this allowance in theory. Also, I do know about the Social Security and taxation configuration process. So, I believe I'm not ignorant as you, who comment without even thinking what exactly the other guy need.

I cannot simply ask my client as I'm just a configuration consultant.

Also, I checked Google before posting this in this thread. Don't conclude the statements by just seeing that it is second hit. Did you opened it? I checked and I didn't get any relevant answer.

If you know, then answer to the thread. Else, you can skip. That will be good. Don't conclude so fastly.

Please grow up dud!!What's all your 17 years experince for??It's funny.

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A representation allowance is a fixed monthly expense allowance instead of claiming back actual expenses. In my company, a sum (~200-300CHF) is generally paid to management-level employees each month to cover small, incidental expenses like tram tickets, coffees, etc under a certain threshold.

The idea is that the fixed allowance removes the burden on the employee of tracking and claiming the expenses, and the employer of having to process the expenses.

From my understanding, a representation allowance differs from salary in that it is non-taxable.

Hi,

Thanks a lot for the input.
It was really helpful. I understood that it is company specific. But, I got the real intent of this concept.

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Exactly.

The exact handling may vary from company to company. In my company there is a catalogue of things you can and cannot claim for. Generally I cannot claim for meals under 50 Francs, bus and tram tickets and train tickets under 50 Francs. I can claim for taxi trips but only if there is no public transport alternative (although as a definition that's a bit washy washy and some people stretch it). It's all a bit complicated and probably varies from company to company so the best thing is if you ask HR or your controller for the details.

Processing the smaller claims often costs more than they're worth, so all in all this is a good system.

Hello Amogles,

Thanks a lot for immediate additional information.
It is helpful for my understanding towards the concept.

Thanks again,
Gowtham R
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Old 11.10.2012, 12:38
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Also, I checked Google before posting this in this thread. Don't conclude the statements by just seeing that it is second hit. Did you opened it?...
Yes, I did. And it was quite clear.

You could have asked the same question in SCN. But you'd have got pretty much the same answer as I gave you. They're not keen on spoonfeeding there either.
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From my understanding, a representation allowance differs from salary in that it is non-taxable.
It also differs from salary in that it does not count towards
- your 2nd pillar insured salary
- your employer's contribution to such 2nd pillar
- your entitlement in case of unemployment etc.

Despite the above such representation allowance may be financially attractive in case you are living in a high-tax canton and rarely incurring costs which are covered by the allowance.
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Old 11.10.2012, 14:24
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Re: What is Representation Allowance?

So you are a SAP consultant in Germany, workng fo a company that sold to their client that no need for local people, we can do it all from here. And now you want to be spoonfed specific Swiss issues by Swiss consultants working in Switzerland?
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So you are a SAP consultant in Germany, workng fo a company that sold to their client that no need for local people, we can do it all from here. And now you want to be spoonfed specific Swiss issues by Swiss consultants working in Switzerland?
Hello Tilia,

I just wanted to know some theoretical understanding on this concept. I do not need any support on the SAP system technically. I can handle any sort of requriement even though I do not know about the concept as I can understand the system functionality through ABAP. As I'm curious about this country's legislation system, I just asked this question.

So, If this forum is to help people understand the Swiss specific issues, then please contribute.

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Old 12.10.2012, 08:46
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So, If this forum is to help people understand the Swiss specific issues, then please contribute....
Your question hasn't really got much to do with Swiss insurance, has it?
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Your question hasn't really got much to do with Swiss insurance, has it?
Hasn't it? Oh.

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