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Having no luck with Swiss girls [romance]

I've come to realise that the Swiss girls prefer swiss men over foreign men. It's even worse if your skin is a little dark. All of my foreign friends have said the same thing, the Swiss girls basically ignore them and go for guys who are Swiss. Why is this the case? It's not like that in the UK, the UK girls are very outgoing and very often brown men have a lot of success with the ladies there. Why are the Swiss women so afraid of foreigners?
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Re: Swiss girls don't like foreigners

Hi "IndianInUK",

Oh nooo,you're soo mistaken...

I'm a native Californian through and through.I've had 4 beautiful,smart and very outgoing Swiss girlfriends so far in my life.Never heard of such a thing....Sorry,you see Swiss women that way for real.

(Plus,I'm still trying really hard to find a nice one to marry and to be my first wife my entire life.)


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Re: Swiss girls don't like foreigners

Before you jump to any conclusions do the following. Don't take these points personally as they might or might not apply to you.

1) Dress trendy and smart. No I don't mean like 50 cents
2) Get Fit.
3) Good body hygiene (consult the deodorant thread)
4) I assume you are Indian so watch the Hollywood movie "Guru". Eastern philosophy could be a selling point with some girls
5) Never come across as desperate. Big turn off for girls.
6) Google on how to get laid Take it easy and be chilled out.
7) Be a good listener

Swiss girls are just like girls from around the world. You have to get their attention physically and intellectually.

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Hi "IndianInUK",

Oh nooo,you're soo mistaken...

I'm a native Californian through and through.I've had 4 beautiful,smart and very outgoing Swiss girlfriends so far in my life.Never heard of such a thing....Sorry,you see Swiss women that way for real.

(Plus,I'm still trying really hard to find a nice one to marry and to be my first wife my entire life.)


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Why are you trying so hard mate? It's not like taking a crap that you can try hard. Go with the flow and don't make plans like "wife my entire life". Good luck and I hope you find the right lady that will rock your world.
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Re: Swiss girls don't like foreigners

Then how come many or most Swiss blokes keep saying that the Swiss girls are difficult and that they are the worst in the world? If it's hard enough for them then how can you expect a foreigner to have any luck here?
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Then how come many or most Swiss blokes keep saying that the Swiss girls are difficult and that they are the worst in the world? If it's hard enough for them then how can you expect a foreigner to have any luck here?
You have to look at life from a positive angle. Being a foreigner is a positive and not a negative point. You have the advantage of sticking out from the average Swiss guy because of your colour. Also you being a foreigner is a good conversation starter.

Btw you should not be taking advice from Swiss blokes as they are hardly the most clued up when it comes to girls. You need positivity not negativity. Confidence attracts girls. Look easy girls are easy and difficult girls are difficult irrespective of their nationality. How do you explain lot of Swiss girls marrying foreigners? Also 20+ % of the population is non Swiss so why limit yourself to Swiss girls only?

What are you looking for anyway? One night stands or serious relationship?
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Re: Swiss girls don't like foreigners

My Swiss fiancee dumped me for a bounder of Indian origin.

Do you want her phone number?
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Re: Swiss girls don't like foreigners

I feel your pain...

When I arrived in the UK 15 years ago, I felt fairly much like that - the local women were a complete mystery to me.

I joined a society with a good mix of natives and foreigners - I think that helped the mindset. I then asked some girls out I found interesting, with the mindset that it was about having a good time, anything extra would be nice. I have been married to the 3rd date since 1995.

So, be sure to mix with a group of people who are not hung up about colour - and take it easy, as Rhythmical Remedy wrote.

Enjoy yourself

PS: Should you not update your location?
PPS: There are _very_ outgoing Swiss girls. I met one in Budapest who tested my French: "Voulez vouz coucher avec moi?" - I blushed and declined, I fancied another one.
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Re: Swiss girls don't like foreigners

It is the same the world over - women can spot a chap who's desperate from a mile, sorry, kilometer away.

Let's not have this degenerate into an "all Swiss girls hate foreigners" thread please.
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Re: Having no luck with Swiss girls [romance]

The dude who owned a local Indian restaurant, was from Bengal and had a Swiss wife. So it's possible.
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Re: Having no luck with Swiss girls [romance]

I must say that the statistics on marriages in Switzerland tell a different story - I can't remember the exact number, but it's an astonishingly high percentage of marriages involving a Swiss person to a foreigner.

I've met quite a few swiss girls who prefer foreign men. I'm sure many of the members of this forum have girlfriends or wives who are Swiss.

It's not just Swiss girls, many girls all over the world prefer a man of foreign origin, citing that local men are always "boring" (or a whole list of other complaints).

How many of us guys have suddenly noticed that we get a lot more attention from women as soon as we step outside our home country?

I've also heard stories from more than one Swiss women who complained how difficult it was to get the object of their affection into bed. I must say I always chuckle when I hear such stories.

Could skin colour be playing a role? Perhaps. I think we'd all be stupid to ignore the role of this in Swiss society at large (not going to discuss this here, head over to the racism thread if you want to debate that). Could it also play a role in terms of women selecting a mate?

Since men usually have darker skin complexion than women, (even among blacks, black men tend to be darker than black women on average), women have a natural preference towards dark, men a preference for lighter complexion. Therefore the "tall, dark and handsome" man always has the advantage.

That said, cultural issues can also come into play. In the UK for example white women with black men is quite common. I haven't travelled all over the US, but considering the size of the black and white populations, I didn't see as many couples of mixed race as I might have expected.

So to the original poster - I don't know your exact situation, but I'd say try a little harder
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Re: Having no luck with Swiss girls [romance]

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So to the original poster - I don't know your exact situation, but I'd say try a little harder
I'd say stop trying - the minute you do not seem desperate you will have more than enough girls who are interested...
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Re: Having no luck with Swiss girls [romance]

Read the book "girls are from venus and men from mars" as thats quite true.

And as a girl, I can tell you that nothing turns you off more then a keen man....even if its not desperation, your with a group of girls and its perceived as such.

Also, as an Indian girl, I can tell you that the best dressed Indian men I have met are extremely few and far between. Appearance really counts on meeting someone for the first time...hence all the suggestions about confidence in this thread.

I was walking to work today and I bumped into this beautiful beautiful man. Now that I think about it, he was not at all good looking, but the confidence with which he carried himself, smiled (but not too much), dressed immacuately, meant that I was instantly besotted.
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I'd say stop trying - the minute you do not seem desperate you will have more than enough girls who are interested...
or negative attitude gains negative results ... as true in life as it is in business.
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Therefore the "tall, dark and handsome" man always has the advantage.
Could all the discarded blond men please form an orderly queue? Because I prefer tall, blond and cute.
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or negative attitude gains negative results ... as true in life as it is in business.
Well sometimes you get negative because of a bunch of hidden reasons, and it's not even good to force yourself into a different mood.

And I think both men and women come from the same planet and are more similar than what they would think
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It's not just Swiss girls, many girls all over the world prefer a man of foreign origin, citing that local men are always "boring" (or a whole list of other complaints).

How many of us guys have suddenly noticed that we get a lot more attention from women as soon as we step outside our home country?

I've also heard stories from more than one Swiss women who complained how difficult it was to get the object of their affection into bed. I must say I always chuckle when I hear such stories.

Could skin colour be playing a role? Perhaps. I think we'd all be stupid to ignore the role of this in Swiss society at large (not going to discuss this here, head over to the racism thread if you want to debate that). Could it also play a role in terms of women selecting a mate?

Since men usually have darker skin complexion than women, (even among blacks, black men tend to be darker than black women on average), women have a natural preference towards dark, men a preference for lighter complexion. Therefore the "tall, dark and handsome" man always has the advantage.

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A darwinistic angle: Women wants the man with the best genes as father of their children. The best genes are usually the ones different from their own, as that gives a better immune defense. "Tall and handsome" also signals good health, at least not stunted or deformed.

At the other hand, there may be a preference for "slightly but not too different"

Of course, all this is statistics and we know that covers over a lot of variation.

As for dark? I am typically Danish, 1.90m, light complexion, light hair colour, blue eyes. I get checked and nice smiles here, and more so when we are in Portugal. My wife has got used to it
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A darwinistic angle: Women wants the man with the best genes as father of their children. The best genes are usually the ones different from their own, as that gives a better immune defense. "Tall and handsome" also signals good health, at least not stunted or deformed.
I'd also add that having 2 eyes instead of 3 could be a good sign of health.
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Re: Having no luck with Swiss girls [romance]

IndianinUK, ask yourself -- what does a woman (Swiss or not) want in a boyfriend or husband?

I believe the answer is likely to be: someone who is decent, kind and considerate, who has similar values and outlook in life, someone she can talk to and have fun with (whatever her idea of fun is).

If you tend to go for the obviously pretty and 'hot' ones, you have too much competition. Look around you for the nice, friendly and kind ones. They might not be the next Miss Switzerland (or Miss Foreigner) but they have a lot else to offer.

I come from a country where a number of my friends and relatives have gone for darker-skinned men -- and together they have made strong, lasting and loving partnerships. Good luck!
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Re: Having no luck with Swiss girls [romance]

Obviously I am not a Swiss girl, rather a decrepit Brit, my opinion is that you shouldn't be restricting yourself to Swiss women. Surely it doesn't matter what her nationality is as long as she has the qualities you are looking for in a companion?
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