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Old 26.11.2012, 17:33
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Was it you I beat to vajazzling too? I suspect it was

I have the speed of a cobra today, fuelled by my meat-free borscht lunch

Don't worry about it - the little purple haired one was even slower
'Twas me!
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Old 26.11.2012, 17:36
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Well, roughly - if you use cheap meat for those dishes, which most people would....plus using pork fat, you'd be looking at VERY APPROXIMATELY 10% total fat and of that 8% saturated fat. That is not healthy food
Tell this the Brazialian health authority. They recommend to eat feijoada every day, or at minimum five times a week. http://bvsms.saude.gov.br/bvs/public...o_saudavel.pdf (link in portuguese)
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Old 26.11.2012, 17:44
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Slim doesn't equal fit.
You need quality lean protein for a trim, toned body


You used the word "fitter". Brazilian feijoada is filled with fat, fatty meats and more fat, very little lean meats are used.

BTW, the Brazilian brochure suggests eating feij„o com arroz, not feijoada.
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Old 26.11.2012, 17:48
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You used the word "fitter". Brazilian feijoada is filled with fat, fatty meats and more fat, very little lean meats are used.
A feijoada consists mostly of Black Beans, not meat.
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Old 26.11.2012, 17:50
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BTW, the Brazilian brochure suggests eating feij„o com arroz, not feijoada.
Feijao= Beans
Arroz= Reis

Yes, they recommend to eat every day beans (with rice), or at least five times a week.
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Old 26.11.2012, 17:52
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Re: Food for thoughts

I should do some work.. will respond later... maybe
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Old 26.11.2012, 17:52
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A feijoada consists mostly of Black Beans, not meat.
But that's NOT what the gov't brochure is suggesting. You are mixing up two different things.

Feijoada is a specific dish made with lots of pork and pork fat and black beans (in Brazilian, white beans in Portugal).

The Brazilian gov't is recommending eating beans and rice, all types of beans and varying them through out the week. It is not suggesting eating feijoada 5 day a week.
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Old 26.11.2012, 17:57
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it is quite awful to see how bad this is... in the US, I used to practice at a driving range close to one of these farms and it was criminal...
Are we still talking about turkeys? I accidentally hit a pigeon with a golf ball at the driving range one time and killed it stone dead. Unfortunately it was on the ground at the time, only about 50 yards in front of the tee box. The way I hit a golf ball is the real crime....
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Old 26.11.2012, 18:10
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Re: Food for thoughts

meli23, you need to eat more carrots.
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Old 26.11.2012, 20:36
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meli23, you need to eat more carrots.


Well, not sure what to think about a suggestion to eat rice and beans 5x a day, seriously.
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Old 26.11.2012, 20:49
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But that's NOT what the gov't brochure is suggesting. You are mixing up two different things.
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The Brazilian gov't is recommending eating beans and rice, all types of beans and varying them through out the week. It is not suggesting eating feijoada 5 day a week.
Brazilians are not going to eat Mung beans or Soya beans Ė the everyday staple dish is feijoada.
Ask any Brazilian for 'feijao and rice', and you will get a feijoada.
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Old 26.11.2012, 20:50
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Well, not sure what to think about a suggestion to eat rice and beans 5x a day, seriously.
Yeah, that's what I've said.
Oh my...
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Old 26.11.2012, 20:51
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Was it you I beat to vajazzling too? I suspect it was

I have the speed of a cobra today, fuelled by my meat-free borscht lunch

Don't worry about it - the little purple haired one was even slower
So slow that I only noticed this now. :P is all I have to say. Well, that and I'm a bit jealous about the borscht. I love borscht. Recipe??

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Brazilians are not going to eat Mung beans or Soya beans – the everyday staple dish is feijoada.
Ask any Brazilian for 'feijao and rice', and you will get a feijoada.
Great. So we are now going 'round in circle.
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Old 26.11.2012, 21:59
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Well, that and I'm a bit jealous about the borscht. I love borscht. Recipe??

Serious?
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Old 26.11.2012, 22:05
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Well, not sure what to think about a suggestion to eat rice and beans 5x a day, seriously.
Buy more TP?
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Old 26.11.2012, 22:07
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Buy more TP?
Hahaha, 5x a week, obviously..Sorry. Brainfart.
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Old 26.11.2012, 22:18
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Serious?
Well, yes. I know it's vegan and all but still yummy... no?
Of course, it's not something I have very often. If it had to eat it every week I might not be so thrilled.
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Old 26.11.2012, 22:31
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Well, yes. I know it's vegan and all but still yummy... no?
Of course, it's not something I have very often. If it had to eat it every week I might not be so thrilled.
Its SOOO not vegan normally, just didn't have any meat in the house.

Basically, get some cheap beef (like shin or other slow cook cut) and cook it with an onion in water for a loooooong time until the meat is falling off the bone.

Allow it to cool, skim the fat from the liquid, remove the meat. Pick the meat off the bone and finely chop.

Peel and chop 4 beetroots, 4 carrots, two small onions and one large potato. Bring to the boil and simmer until soft. Add lots of fresh dill and some very finely chopped cabbage and cook for another ten minutes. Add the meat and a slug of red wine vinegar and warm through for five minutes.

Serve with more dill and sour cream and without a white shirt.

For the vegetarian version, ignore the bits above involving anything that used to run around a field. Use vegetable stock

For the vegan version, don't bother coz you can't have sour cream and then its only red soup.


I apologise to any Russians, Ukrainians etc out there. I know it doesn't have a "t" (борщ) and I know that there are a thousand better ways to make it including how your Granny did it. But that's how I make it
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Old 27.11.2012, 14:52
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Its SOOO not vegan normally, just didn't have any meat in the house.
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I apologise to any Russians, Ukrainians etc out there. I know it doesn't have a "t" (борщ) and I know that there are a thousand better ways to make it including how your Granny did it. But that's how I make it

Good call on the beef broth. Didn't think about that.

I don't know Russian/Ukrainian borscht. Only Polish made borscht.
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Its SOOO not vegan normally, just didn't have any meat in the house.

Basically, get some cheap beef (like shin or other slow cook cut) and cook it with an onion in water for a loooooong time until the meat is falling off the bone.

Allow it to cool, skim the fat from the liquid, remove the meat. Pick the meat off the bone and finely chop.

Peel and chop 4 beetroots, 4 carrots, two small onions and one large potato. Bring to the boil and simmer until soft. Add lots of fresh dill and some very finely chopped cabbage and cook for another ten minutes. Add the meat and a slug of red wine vinegar and warm through for five minutes.

Serve with more dill and sour cream and without a white shirt.

For the vegetarian version, ignore the bits above involving anything that used to run around a field. Use vegetable stock

For the vegan version, don't bother coz you can't have sour cream and then its only red soup.


I apologise to any Russians, Ukrainians etc out there. I know it doesn't have a "t" (борщ) and I know that there are a thousand better ways to make it including how your Granny did it. But that's how I make it
I can confirm, the recipe is excellent! My Russian friends cooked it a while ago, I even have some pics somewhere.
Just want to make sure that people understood they should use the liquid left after the meat is boiled.
A "vegan version" just wouldn't do it IMHO. It would be just a vegetable soup, not a borsh.
Btw, there are lots of versions (that are similar) around Eastern Europe, what I find specific for the Russian (and probably Ukrainian too) version is using beetroots.
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