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Old 24.12.2012, 16:14
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Re: Passport Control by Police Immediately Upon Leaving Aircraft

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This is all news to me - I've never seen or heard of it before.

But what do they get form checking passports at the exit of the plane as opposed to inside the terminal building? Are there instances of people legging it across the tarmac and over the fence?
I guess it makes it easier to pick specific flights before the passenger mingle with those from other flights.

But logistically speaking, it must be easier to ask someone to take a seat in the corner of the immigration lounge than escort them from the apron.
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Old 24.12.2012, 16:22
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This is all news to me - I've never seen or heard of it before.

But what do they get form checking passports at the exit of the plane as opposed to inside the terminal building? Are there instances of people legging it across the tarmac and over the fence?
In the case of Schengen flights, it may be the only check they receive
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Old 24.12.2012, 16:26
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In the case of Schengen flights, it may be the only check they receive
Yep, you're right! I remember flying back from Spain to Basel in the summer and wondering in the terminal building why no one wanted to check my passport.
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Old 24.12.2012, 16:31
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But what do they get form checking passports at the exit of the plane as opposed to inside the terminal building? Are there instances of people legging it across the tarmac and over the fence?
There are many good reasons to do a passport control at the door of the plane, before the passenger enters the terminal building. Most importantly, this is the only time that it is easy to separate and control passengers who have arrived from a specific, high-risk destination -- by the time they mix with other passengers in the terminal building, it's very difficult to carry out the same check. By the time the passenger reaches the border control, it can be virtually impossible to know which flight they were on or which passport they had used to board the aircraft.

These checks are typically targeted at routes where they perceive they get a fair number of asylum seekers or other immigration irregularities. Apparently a proportion of these "lose" their documentation between the plane and the border control so by checking at the plane door they catch them before they get a chance to "lose" their passport. The checks are usually either intelligence-based or targeted at flights with historically high risk of immigration irregularities.

At least in the UK, UKBA does a good job keeping statistics on this to guard against the inevitable claims of ethnic profiling that come up.

In the case of the poster above, let's assume that the flight has come from India (for example) and there's traditionally been a large number of asylum cases from India. In order to speed up the process for everyone, it's highly likely that only those passengers that look like they might be of Indian origin would be stopped. It's not to say that there aren't other (non-Indian) illegal immigrants coming from India, or that all Indians are illegal. It simply means that they can control the vast majority of what they're trying to stop without forcing everyone to stand in the rain longer than necessary.

Similarly, it may only be Indians arriving from India that pose an immigration risk. Indians arriving from North America or Europe may historically always have the proper documentation, so it's not worth controlling all Indians at passport control.

The other reason they typically meet you at the door is to check for passengers who are carrying too much undeclared cash. I've been asked how much cash I was carrying, and even been met with cash-sniffer dogs at various airports. This happens a lot where the flight arrives from cultures that traditionally carry a lot of cash -- in the US, I've seen it with flights that originate in China or Hong Kong -- and yes, it's mostly the Chinese who get pulled over for questioning.
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Old 24.12.2012, 17:15
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Re: Passport Control by Police Immediately Upon Leaving Aircraft

That's a western problem we all have to live with unfortunately. Our "so called God" has a habit of raining on us at frequent intervals just to prove he's the Chief Pisser in the land.
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Re: Passport Control by Police Immediately Upon Leaving Aircraft

Please see the BBC new report (although it is old statistics) where Top 10 nationalities of asylum seekers are mentioned. India doesn't figure amongst the nations in the list.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sta...uk/default.stm

<In the case of the poster abe, let's assume that the flight has come from India (for example) and there's traditionally been a large number of asylum cases from India.>

Furthermore, India is in the official list of Safest Countries. This means there is no great risk of people fleeing from persecution. Asylum seekers from the list of safest countries in majority of cases have their applications rejected. By this I don't say there are no asylum seekers from India ... majority of those who seek asylum from India have their applications rejected (95% as per one BBC report). These minority group of shameless crooks who try to cheat the system bring bad names to themselves and their country of origin.

By the way, I was returning from Amman and not from India. After my passport was checked and cleared by the staff at the Lufthansa boarding desk ... I was walking towards the immigration counter. Suddenly a man with european looks, stopped me and the first thing he said was <Give me for my passport>. I gave him my passport, as he wore some kind of official badge over his neck.He asked me in French - do you live in Berne (where my passport was issued). I replied in French that I live in Basel ... He took his own time turning over the pages of my passport and returned to me without saying anything. Later when I was the immigration counter, there was an agent (possibly a local Arab. Believe me or not he greeted me with a smiling face and also wished me - have a nice trip.
Two different worlds!
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Please see the BBC new report (although it is old statistics) where Top 10 nationalities of asylum seekers are mentioned. India doesn't figure amongst the nations in the list.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sta...uk/default.stm

<In the case of the poster abe, let's assume that the flight has come from India (for example) and there's traditionally been a large number of asylum cases from India.>

Furthermore, India is in the official list of Safest Countries. This means there is no great risk of people fleeing from persecution. Asylum seekers from the list of safest countries in majority of cases have their applications rejected. By this I don't say there are no asylum seekers from India ... majority of those who seek asylum from India have their applications rejected (95% as per one BBC report). These minority group of shameless crooks who try to cheat the system bring bad names to themselves and their country of origin.

By the way, I was returning from Amman and not from India. After my passport was checked and cleared by the staff at the Lufthansa boarding desk ... I was walking towards the immigration counter. Suddenly a man with european looks, stopped me and the first thing he said was <Give me for my passport>. I gave him my passport, as he wore some kind of official badge over his neck.He asked me in French - do you live in Berne (where my passport was issued). I replied in French that I live in Basel ... He took his own time turning over the pages of my passport and returned to me without saying anything. Later when I was the immigration counter, there was an agent (possibly a local Arab. Believe me or not he greeted me with a smiling face and also wished me - have a nice trip.
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look, it says EXAMPLE so dont go making a fool of yourself with " its not in the list" .

you also appear to have a big chip on your shoulder - get over it, and if you dont want to be asked for your passport when de planing dont fly its quite simple...

you seem determined to make this a racial issue, why dont you go complain to the police and immigration instead of pissing moaning and bitching on here and see what reply you get from them.
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Old 25.12.2012, 21:14
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Re: Passport Control by Police Immediately Upon Leaving Aircraft

If only people who were being looked for would have it stamped on their foreheads in indelible ink

"I'm the one you are looking for!"

It would just make it so much easier for the rest of us....
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Re: Passport Control by Police Immediately Upon Leaving Aircraft

This is a forum for sharing and expressing views. So I shared my experience and replied / clarified to some posts in a polite language.

If you cannot stand my posts, you have a choice not to read my posts or respond to it. You should learn to disagree in an agreable manner.



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look, it says EXAMPLE so dont go making a fool of yourself with " its not in the list" .

you also appear to have a big chip on your shoulder - get over it, and if you dont want to be asked for your passport when de planing dont fly its quite simple...

you seem determined to make this a racial issue, why dont you go complain to the police and immigration instead of pissing moaning and bitching on here and see what reply you get from them.
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You should learn to disagree in an agreable manner.

You obviously haven't been around here long kiddo! You have been given the kid glove treatment. Everyone has been really nice to you. Don't prod the monster too hard though, might get nasty...

Your profile says that you joined in April 2007, so you have actually been around longer than me, but with only 259 posts you are still pretty much a noob...
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This is a forum for sharing and expressing views. So I shared my experience and replied / clarified to some posts in a polite language.

If you cannot stand my posts, you have a choice not to read my posts or respond to it. You should learn to disagree in an agreable manner.
you should read properly and learn to differentiate between examples and facts as you so clearly are unable to do above.

the point still stands, if you dont like passport checks in the gangway or after disembarking dont fly.

you are also most welcome to put me on your ignore list, in fact i plead with you to do so.

have a nice day.
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Re: Passport Control by Police Immediately Upon Leaving Aircraft

I know this is a really old topic but here are my two cents:

This happens almost all the time on Swiss Flights from South America (Săo Paulo).

My personal take on this, based on a friend's account who work for the Federal Police is that they mostly look for people matching certain traits that are possible victims of people trafficking and sex workers (they, the victims, just don't know it yet).

ofc, this is all on flights arriving from non-schengen (happened to me once from Bangkok too).
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Re: Passport Control by Police Immediately Upon Leaving Aircraft

Possibly it may also have something to do with the obligation of airlines to fly back home people who tried to enter a country without the correct documentation.

It is just so much easier to do that planeside than to do it later by which time it may be difficult to prove by which plane they actually came.

If you cross by a land border it's much simpler. If they don't let you in you just go back and try again the next day in the hope that one day you'll meet a border guard who doesn't notice there is something wrong with your papers.
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