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Old 29.07.2010, 15:41
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Re: Circumcision: right or wrong?

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Studies have shown that there ain't that much pleasure derived from your foreskin either.
My studies have proved otherwise.
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Old 29.07.2010, 15:41
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But you said it was a problem with a fact . . . are we talking empirical content or logic here?
It was in relation to the rest of his rant(s)
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Old 29.07.2010, 15:43
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My studies have proved otherwise.
n=1 doesn't mean much in studies
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Old 29.07.2010, 15:44
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n=1 doesn't mean much in studies
especially when conducted with snail foam in el bulli...outlier fetishes don't tell us much...
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Old 29.07.2010, 15:45
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n=1 doesn't mean much in studies
Plus he would have to be snipped for before and after for a proper study.

We'd also need a women with the same tightness of vagina I'd imagine. Is there a way to measure that?
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Old 29.07.2010, 15:46
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It was in relation to the rest of his rant(s)
So then not a logical fallacy; just an incorrect fact. You've done this before: use term 'illogical fallacy' in reference to just one post rahter than context of the whole thread/argument.
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Old 29.07.2010, 15:50
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So then not a logical fallacy; just an incorrect fact. You've done this before: use term 'illogical fallacy' in reference to just one post rahter than context of the whole thread/argument.
Since I've cleared up that it was in relation to all your rants what is the point of this post?

I did a search for 'porsch1909' + 'logical fallacy' and it only came up with this thread. So I've not done it before. Well not on EF anyway.
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Old 29.07.2010, 15:51
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Plus he would have to be snipped for before and after for a proper study.

We'd also need a women with the same tightness of vagina I'd imagine. Is there a way to measure that?
You mean increase the study population to n=2?
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Old 29.07.2010, 15:55
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You mean increase the study population to n=2?
I'm not even sure why sexual pleasure is an issue since most people wouldn't know the difference!
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Old 29.07.2010, 15:55
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n=1 doesn't mean much in studies
I'm rarely in favour of a phenomenological approach, but as this is a qualitative study and I have a privileged perspective, you'll just have to trust me.
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Old 29.07.2010, 15:56
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I'm not even sure why sexual pleasure is an issue since most people wouldn't know the difference!
What? Between my earlobe and my foreskin? Talk about arse and elbow!
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Old 29.07.2010, 15:57
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Since I've cleared up that it was in relation to all your rants what is the point of this post?

I did a search for 'porsch1909' + 'logical fallacy' and it only came up with this thread. So I've not done it before. Well not on EF anyway.
Well then you just don't make sense.

P.S. Do a better search with wider parameters.

This is fun: both you and Economisto. I will not type so fast next time to leave myself open to errors of percentages. Although I would never compare herpes to breast cancer. The former is a condition you can prevent and avoid. The latter is a bit more difficult and is life-threatening. I had ear infections as a kid but it was never an option to chop it off ( I am not comparing to Soles example which was obviously a specific case); but then that is not the argument anyways; the comparable case would be to chop off everyone's ears cuz there is chance of ear infections as a kid.
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Old 29.07.2010, 15:59
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...the comparable case would be to chop off everyone's ears cuz there is chance of ear infections as a kid.
<sigh> but is there proof that chopping the ear off would help reduce the risk?
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I'm not even sure why sexual pleasure is an issue since most people wouldn't know the difference!
True true. One wouldn't be aware if one had a lobotamy.

I guess if someone chopped out my optic nerves when I was just born, I also wouldn't know the difference as I wouldn't ever know what it would be like to see.
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Old 29.07.2010, 16:00
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<sigh> but is there proof that chopping the ear off would help reduce the risk?
Well my ear can't get infected if it's not there, can it.
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Old 29.07.2010, 16:02
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Well then you just don't make sense.

P.S. Do a better search with wider parameters.

This is fun: both you and Economisto. I will not type so fast next time to leave myself open to errors of percentages. Although I would never compare herpes to breast cancer. The former is a condition you can prevent and avoid. The latter is a bit more difficult and is life-threatening. I had ear infections as a kid but it was never an option to chop it off ( I am not comparing to Soles example which was obviously a specific case); but then that is not the argument anyways; the comparable case would be to chop off everyone's ears cuz there is chance of ear infections as a kid.
Okay. You win. I give up.
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Old 29.07.2010, 16:05
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Okay. You win. I give up.
Look buddy, don't say illogical fallacy when it was an incorrect fact in reponse to your logic. Read my original post; it still stands.
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Re: Circumcision: right or wrong?

I do get the feeling that many medical papers on the subject are written by those with an opinion to support.
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Old 29.07.2010, 16:06
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True true. One wouldn't be aware if one had a lobotamy.

I guess if someone chopped out my optic nerves when I was just born, I also wouldn't know the difference as I wouldn't ever know what it would be like to see.
You're hilarious. If this was an argument between cutting a whole penis of and not then that would be a reasonable comparison.

Someone who is circumcised can still have sex. Can still enjoy sex. Saying someone has more pleasure with a foreskin than without is purely subjective.

You'd need have the same person doing a before and after with the same women, using the same positions, since there are so many different factors in having pleasurable sex. Saying 'I have a foreskin I have better sex LOL' is just so ignorant.
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Old 29.07.2010, 16:07
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Well my ear can't get infected if it's not there, can it.
If you remove the ear lobe, the rest of the ear is still there (and won't function as well).

If you remove the foreskin, the glans/penis is still there. Does the penis function better/worse... well that's up for debate isn't it. Certainly from a reproduction point of view and going for a piss, it seems to work fine whether you are a round head or cavalier.

I ask again, do you have any evidence, that chopping off the ear lobe will reduce the chance of infection?

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I do get the feeling that many medical papers on the subject are written by those with an opinion to support.
I'd agree with that opinion. They've all got research grants to fund, don't you know...
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