Tom 73 and custodian, I groaned at both of you not because of your opinions, what you are totally right to have but because of the no respect and the rudeness you showed about other people's believes.

Once the doctor did circumcision on a guy, and then asked him to wear skirt (of cource for a few days), and he shouted: god damn, did you cut it all?!

To me the only fanaticism is cutting pieces off your children because your imaginary friend told you to.

Well, I've heard guys complain about them and in some cases the doctor seems to have done it with a hacksaw, with pretty nasty scarring... So I still reckon it should only be done if there is a pressing medical issue.

I think it is like everything else, you have to do your research to find a good doctor to do the procedure.

Um. OK, but that's not why and that's not what religion is anyway. For many, religion is tradition - a link to the past and to each other and circumcision can make that tangible.

Just look at the plus and negative aspects a bit more.

Plus: it stops alot of risk of infection.
When done as a baby it doesn't bother you much because you can't walk anyway to feel the pain after surgery.
Many men when older find it tears during sex or masterbation at some point which I'm sure could be very embarressing, and results in circumsition anyway.

Negatives: reducing sensation and causing more friction during sex. Well friction has lube to fix the problem which can also add to the fun anyway. And loss of sensation can mean you last longer during sex which to many an unsatisfied woman could be a dream come true lol.

I would personaly only do it if medicaly needed but I see no wrong in people doing it for tradition or religion as the negatives are not too negative in my opinion.

FGM on the hand is a totaly different subject in my eyes

When I found out I was going to have a baby boy, my husband and I discussed circumcision. I thought we should do it but my husband was totally against it. After much thought and deliberation, I decided not to as well.
When my baby was born, I was really happy with the decision we had made.. I couldn't imagine putting the poor little fella through such pain.
I do however feel that circumcision is neither right nor wrong and would not judge anyone who did decide to do it.

Good point, I agree. I don't condem or look down on parents who did choose to circumcise their sons, but I would not do it to my son unless it was medically necessary.

LOL! Those are good points! They both have their positive and negative points. I just believe in not experiencing unnecessary pain and not putting my kids through unnecessary pain too. At some point if it's needed for medical reasons then okay, but if not don't fix what's not broke. And if a guy is circumcised then that can be worked around as far a sex is concerned, it doesn't have to make a difference in that department.

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Has anyone ever asked the ladies what THEY prefer?

My gf tells me that she prefers a cut d*ck.

I am circumsised and it has never been a problem, actually I never thought about it until this thread kept popping up.

I am sure that 80% of circ. men have never had any problems, physically or emotionally, and that their ladies haven't.

By the way I feel very clean and I would absolutely refuse to have a foreskin if you wanted to give me one.

Damn it I was about to offer you mine

Thank you but ... no

Muppet. What on Earth do you mean by that ridiculous statement ? It affects the person on the end of the knife, and most definitely harms them. The parent is there to protect the child, that includes making decisions on behalf of the child that the child will not regret later on. The child has unknowingly placed a trust in the parent and that trust is abused by the mutilation that is circumcision. The parents cannot possibly know what the child will think when older, and is therefore removed from the decision process. You act in the Childs best interest, not your own. Circumcision is not hereditary, it is not a right of passage and it is not in the Childs own interests unless medically suggested.

It has absolutely nothng to do with girlfriends, at best they are trying to make you feel good about an un-natural situation. Not having a foreskin is against the natural order, no matter how your lady feels about it. Was your girlfriend consulted at the time, did you have her thoughts in mind when you were cut, did she have yours ? No.

Maybe , God forbid, if she has a mastectomy, you can tell her you like girls with one breast...

Woooo! Don't make a big drama out of this.

I asked my husband about his circoncision. First of all, I don't agree with the time he had it, he wasn't a baby nor a toddler anymore and I believe this procedure should be done at the birth not later in life (except for medical reason obviously)

He is happy with the result, he would never want to have his little skin back and it certainly didn't affected him in any way. No anger against his parents, no nightmares about his loss... And on the sexual side, believe me, it is all good! Same for my brother and all guys I know who had it done.

Come on! You compare a few millimeter of skin with a breast? Get some perspective!

We born with our wisdom teeth but still, when they go out we take them out. It is sooo against nature! We have sex and use a condom, it is so against the nature. We get tattoos, we didn't born with it so it is against nature. Do you see any sense in this? No, me either!

So size does matter?

I don't think it's particularly the case that it's against nature. It's that it's without the consent of the child.

Wisdom teeth extraction is generally done to remove pain and is normally only done in adulthood. Condom use is not a modification to the body. No one tattoos kids, do they?

I haven't seen a decent argument for child circumcision vs adult consensual circumcision.

UTH....seriously? The mutilation that is circumcision? There is no solid evidence that circumcision does any harm at all, never mind any more harm than good. If it's for religion purposes, and based on its scientifically accepted neutrality, the connection to the family and a wider community is of overriding importance. I believe therefore, in most cases of circumcision, the child's trust has been rightly rewarded. Circumcision is clearly a right of passage and clearly in the child's best cultural interests.

The irony appears totally lost on you. I and others are the ones providing links to real, credible scientific evidence and you are the one denying the validity of the scientific evidence. With an almost religious fervour, one might add.

The inquisition would be proud of you.

Oh Nil, this could so be taken out of context...

not sure if this was stated earlier but back in the US they used to automatically circumsize for ages...recently, 3-5 years ago or so studies have conculded that there is not evidence that circumsision has any health benefits and is as far as I know no longer done by default.