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Re: Circumcision in Switzerland: advice and info please

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Old 18.08.2011, 21:07
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P.S. Most women I've known (and most of them French or Swiss) prefer circumsized.
Well, I don't. I think it looks weird. First time I saw a circumcised guy I was, like, "where's the rest of it?!"
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Old 18.08.2011, 21:09
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P.S. Most women I've known (and most of them French or Swiss) prefer circumsized.
The only advantage I see is it's easier to avoid that, erm, fishy note with a circumcised todger. But in general, I think it's weird to deprive a guy from something that is an incredibly important choice and just decide for him when he's a kid. And I am not bothered whether he's cut or not, not is actually more, erm, versatile.
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Old 18.08.2011, 21:13
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The only advantage I see is it's easier to avoid that, erm, fishy note with a circumcised todger. But in general, I think it's weird to deprive a guy from something that is an incredibly important choice and just decide for him when he's a kid. And I am not bothered whether he's cut or not, not is actually more, erm, versatile.
But then, the fishy note is due to poor hygiene. And if a guy is not able to clean himself correctly 'there' I prefer knowing it to run away fast!
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Old 18.08.2011, 21:13
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I'm with Odile on this one, you can't just ask a question on where to get it done on the forum and not expect people to air their concerns. As has been said how would people react if someone asked Please has anyone had their daughter circumcised- we are looking for recommendations on where to get it done?

It isn't as if men can't have to done later if they so wish- why not leave the choice up to them?


Sadly, we are fighting a practice that has been carried out for centuries. Both my husbands, brothers, brother -in-laws, nephews (with 2 exceptions) have been circumcised, in the UK, US, Iran they are from different religions. Men like their little boys to look like them. Most of us bathe, we have no lack of running water so hygeine is not a factor, the risks associated with circumcision (though low) may have dire consequences.

Personally if I was a man, I would want more sensitivity not less. Being desensitized doesn't make for a better stud as the majority of women do not orgasm through penetration no matter how how long it takes. Porn movies are not reality.
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I'm with Odile on this one, you can't just ask a question on where to get it done on the forum and not expect people to air their concerns. As has been said how would people react if someone asked please has anyone had their daughter cucumcised- we are looking for recommendations on where t get it done?

It isn't as if men can't have to done later if they so wish- why not leave the choice up to them?


Sadly, we are fighting a practice that has been carried out for centuries. Both my husbands, brothers, brother -in-laws, nephews (with 2 exceptions) have been circumcised, in the UK, US, Iran they are from different religions. Men like their little boys to look like them. Most of us bathe, we have no lack of running water so hygeine is not a factor, the risks associated with circumcision (though low) may have dire consequences.

Personally if I was a man, I would want more sensitivity not less. Being desensitized doesn't make for a better stud as the majority of women do not orgasm through penetration no matter how how long it takes. Porn movies are not reality.
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Old 18.08.2011, 21:14
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Re: Circumcision in Switzerland: advice and info please

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Personally if I was a man, I would want more sensitivity not less. Being desensitized doesn't make for a better stud as the majority of women do not orgasm through penetration no matter how how long it takes. Porn movies are not reality.[/QUOTE]

From my own personal experiance I do not agree, being able to control onself is key.
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Old 18.08.2011, 21:16
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Weeks, not years!

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P.S. Most women I've known (and most of them French or Swiss) prefer circumsized.
They probably also told you that size doesn't matter.....






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Old 18.08.2011, 21:27
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Well, I don't. I think it looks weird. First time I saw a circumcised guy I was, like, "where's the rest of it?!"
LOL!!! And the first time that I "encountered" an un-circumcised one, I had to ask "Uh, how do I work it?"

It was like some strange amphibious creature...

I was a bit bummed when I realized it didn't have flippers.
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Old 18.08.2011, 21:50
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Re: Circumcision: right or wrong?

How on earth is it acceptable to suggest that a penises in their natural state are ugly and unattractive? Do you think little boys don't pick up on this? Would we say the same to girls? Worse yet, would anyone dare suggest that we perform routine cosmetic surgery on girls in order to make their genitals more appealing to the opposite sex? What kind of people think this?

I'm floored that a woman can give birth to a little boy and think "he's great and all, except for that ugly bit of skin at the end of his penis!" and then proceed to put the poor child through a painful, irreversible procedure without ever giving a thought as to what the child might want when they grow old enough to decide on their own.

Edit - For what it's worth, I'm circumcised, and wish I wasn't.
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Old 18.08.2011, 22:00
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Re: Circumcision: right or wrong?

Who is intolerant here? Why should one be tolerant of operating on a child - unless there is a good reason. It is of course an obligation for two of the world's main religions, and as such I try very hard to accept this- but do wonder why the majority of people are totally against female ablation, and yet more tolerant of circumcision?! Certainly not acceptable for vague or cosmetic reasons.
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Old 18.08.2011, 22:10
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Re: Circumcision: right or wrong?

Oh, just argue away, it's no skin off my nose...
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Old 18.08.2011, 22:18
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Old 18.08.2011, 22:22
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Re: Circumcision: right or wrong?

I had a look at the wikipedia article on the prevalence of circumcision, and find the information rather intriguing: why is circumcision big in the United States, Canada and Australia, yet much rarer in the United Kingdom and New Zealand?

It's obviously a cultural matter - but how, exactly?
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Old 18.08.2011, 22:23
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NOOOOOO!!!!!!! I have spent all this time learning to become a plumber for nothing!?!?!?!?
I gave up a high profile career in Pharma to become a pizza delivery boy... and so far not even a sniff
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Old 18.08.2011, 22:25
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Re: Circumcision: right or wrong?

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Who is intolerant here? Why should one be tolerant of operating on a child - unless there is a good reason. It is of course an obligation for two of the world's main religions, and as such I try very hard to accept this- but do wonder why the majority of people are totally against female ablation, and yet more tolerant of circumcision?! Certainly not acceptable for vague or cosmetic reasons.

Okay, sitting on devil's advocate side...

Are the two even the same? According to the things I've heard / read, female ablation means that it is virtually impossible for the majority of females to attain orgasm (which, as I've pointed out elsewhere, has been found to aid in procreation) while I can not recall anywhere that says that circumcised men do not enjoy sex at all, rather that it is possibly simply "less" enjoyable.

The two are not the same.


Meanwhile, having known men in both states, my preference is to leave him uncut but that means a huge responsibility on the part of the parents to teach him to clean himself properly as he reaches an age to do so. I remember a particular little boy constantly messing about with his equipment and when I asked what the problem was, it was obvious that he'd not been taught.
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Strong influence of the Jewish lobby not present in Europe and NZ?
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Re: Circumcision: right or wrong?

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I had a look at the wikipedia article on the prevalence of circumcision, and find the information rather intriguing: why is circumcision big in the United States, Canada and Australia, yet much rarer in the United Kingdom and New Zealand?

It's obviously a cultural matter - but how, exactly?
I believe in the US it was promoted as a means to stop boys from masturbating. Naturally, it's always been a big profit maker for hospitals. At one point they didn't even bother asking the parents.
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I believe in the US it was promoted as a means to stop boys from masturbating. Naturally, it's always been a big profit maker for hospitals. At one point they didn't even bother asking the parents.
So one must conclude, therefore, that Americans, Canadians and Australians are bigger wankers than Brits and Kiwis?

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Tscha! If they're not using the blood of Christian children to make crackers, they're encouraging their parents to have them mutilated.

Next you'll be telling us that they own all the banks and newspapers...
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Old 18.08.2011, 22:32
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Re: Circumcision: right or wrong?

It definitely has nothing to do with a Jewish lobby, there was none to speak of at the time in the US.
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I had a look at the wikipedia article on the prevalence of circumcision, and find the information rather intriguing: why is circumcision big in the United States, Canada and Australia, yet much rarer in the United Kingdom and New Zealand?

It's obviously a cultural matter - but how, exactly?
I thought it was a class distinction- I think most public boarding school boys in the UK have had it done

http://www.circinfo.net/circumcision...stinction.html

Now it's swinging the other way- the educated are deciding that it is outdated and unnecessary, fewer are being circumcised.
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