Hi everyone help and advice please my little girl is ill she is being sick and as diarrhoea also fever the problem i have is when i give her medicine oral or up her bottom she cant keep the medicine inside any advice on what i can do would be very greatful thanks

I dont mean to point out the obvious, but surely she should see a doctor. I hope she makes a speedy recovery.

Everybodys ill from kindergarden the doctor said all i can do is keep her warm and plenty of fluids. Thanks me too.

Yup, you said it...just keep her well hydrated.Even if she's throwing up, she should be given at least spoonfuls of fluid every 10 to 15 mins.If she gets weaker or sicker then of course she might need intravenous hydration in which case you have to go to the hsopital.

I totally agree with you the last thing i want is that she ends up in the hospital. When she was a baby she was in hospital with the same thing but she was to small to understand she had to drink. Now she is old enough to understand she as to drink.

Apart from agreeing with others about the need to go to the doc if she becomes very ill, I use rehydration sachets with all the correct balance of electrolytes for the body in this situation and this can prevent dehydration and aid recovery. I don't know if you can get them in Switzerland but they are excellent. It may be worth asking a pharmacist over there. This simple measure saves lives in Africa and even after the most severe sickness etc my children used to perk up after a couple of these. Good luck and hope she gets better soon.

I presume that she caught the Norovirus ( stomach bug),which causes havoc everywhere currently.

It is vital to try and get her re-hydrated first and foremost.

The following advice is tested by me and my family and it is especially for CHILDREN!

A great remedy against this illness is BIOFLORIN,which you can get without prescription in any pharmacy,the capsules contain a whiteish powder which is made of good stomach bugs .

( i leave it to chemgoddess to explain correctly in detail)

Also important is that the body's electrolyte balance is put right again.

You can achieve that by mixing into 1 liter of water
- 3/4 tblsp salt (3.5 NaCl)
- 1 tsp baking powder (2.5g Natriumbicarbonate)
- 1 cup orangejuice OR 2 squashed bananas(1.5g KCI)
- 4 tblsp sugar ( 20g Glucose)

Mix very well and keep in fridge, give her one spoonfull at a time until she can hold more of it down.Now the Bioflorin is a tasteless white powder,you can open the capsule easily and mix the contents with a little of liquid.

Another option is Coca-Cola with a pinch of salt in it,to make the gas go away,give her a teaspoonfull at a time.

Hope this helps

Another household remedy against diarrhea is finely grated apple, which helps the organism to get water when drinking is discomforting.

I would say THE most important point with a very small child is to watch her constantly .... small children dehydrate very very quickly, and lose their strength.

Yes, Bioflorin is great! There is another great thing they sell in the pharmacies here called HN 25 (from Milupa).

The problem I find with all these electolyte drinks is their taste. The mix of salt and sweet really doesn't work for me. I prefer to drink coke and juice for the sugar and home made chicken broth for the salt.

The sachets you mean are called "GES 45" and you can get them in chemists (Apotheke or Drogerie). Brilliant stuff, we always have it on hand...

Thankyou to all of you for your advice Jade is now fast asleep i gave her salt sticks and coke and it helped alot i hate seeing her so ill. I hope your children dont get this bug

Had two down here with it (and two of us appear immune), although only for one night and no more sickness after that, just tired and ill-looking.
If rehydration salts are a little hard going for you (and sometimes it's hard to keep them down), start off with a little Powerade (blue drink near the Coke in the Coop). Has a lot of the salts and electrolytes, but not so heavily loaded and tastes nice, too.
One thing with dehydration is that sometimes when you're heavily dehydrated, taking a small amount of water can make you feel quite sick at first, but gets better after a bit.

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When my two had the bug, I found that chilled Powerade went down very well and was much preferred to the "boring" GES. Our doctor also recommended broth and plain pasta or rice - whatever grabs their fancy and stays down for more than 2 seconds! Ready made vegetable soup also worked well when they were feeling a little better.
Hope the little one is better already!
Just remebered that the doc did give us something against the "feeling sick", but I decided not to give it because the side effects seemed a bit too scary. It's called Primperan.

I find that when our girl is sick, cold or frozen things make it worse. She does much better with body temperature fluids. Some people tolerate cold stuff better and ice cubes are a good way to get stuff into kids. Not just plain water, you could try diluted apple juice which I understand to be much kinder on the gut than orange for some reason.
Good luck, it's horrible when your children are sick and weak.
Another point I would make, a friend of hers had norovirus for 7 days and then developed a chest infection from laying prone for so long. As a nurse we were taught to prop people up and encourage deep breathing.
The chest infection could have been coincidental mind.

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Thanks to all of you for your kind words and advice Jade is now a little better she still as the runs but the vomiting seems to have stopped im making sure she is drinking enough and she is nibbling on the salt sticks so at least thats something.

That's good news, the stomach isn't inflamed any more. One further point I would make, try not to have too many salt sticks. A stable blood chemistry is vital to good health and too much salt could knock it off kilter and make her feel worse. this is especially important in children. Try some plain boiled white rice. Overcook it to make it a bit more palatable to a littley. (I couldn't eat it myself, but you can normally coax kids into anything)

Thanks good to know, but when she was in the hospital with the same bug thats all the doctors would give her to eat the whole time the doctors told me they where good to replace the salt that she was losing from both ends.

Just spoke to the doctor and he said if Jades not better by tomorrow then i have to ring again. Shes back vomiting again.

Don't know if it's still current advice but as a kid, if I was sick with such a bug our GP's advice was no food whatsoever. Drinking was important (flat coke was good for me but that's just me) but food should be put on hold for the duration.

After the sickness was gone I always craved toast. A sure sign I was on the mend.

Hope the little one is feeling better soon - it's rotten when they are sick, you feel so helpless!