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US Tourist Visa: Weird form of discrimination

I am an Indian national living in Switzerland for the last four years and I have applied for US B1/B2 visa (for attending conferences and visiting friends) twice so far- both times with excessive processing times (~ 2 months) making my travel plans tentative until the last minute, with the result of being given ONLY a 1-year visa.

Now here's the crazy part: the second time I applied for the visa, I did it along with my wife (also an Indian national) who wanted to come with me when I travel for my conference. Her 10-year visa arrived within 2 days (giving one day for the shipping, I am guessing the entire processing took a few hours max), mine arrived after 2 months, again with only 1-year validity!

And it is definitely not just me... I have already seen this happening with 3 other (Indian) couples, where the wife gets the same type of visa for 10 years, and the husband gets it only for 1 year, requiring the husband alone to apply for a visa again and again when they both want to travel together in the future.... Has anyone else experienced this? Does anyone have a clue what's the reason behind this weird policy?
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And it is definitely not just me... I have already seen this happening with 3 other (Indian) couples, where the wife gets the same type of visa for 10 years, and the husband gets it only for 1 year, requiring the husband alone to apply for a visa again and again when they both want to travel together in the future.... Has anyone else experienced this? Does anyone have a clue what's the reason behind this weird policy?
But it's not the same kind of Visa, is it?

Not sure what kind you need to vist work-related events, but she must surely have received a tourist/visitor Visa?
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Re: US Tourist Visa: Weird form of discrimination

I think it's all B1/B2 (tourist and business), same for wives and husbands. I'm not Indian, so I wouldn't know, but my male Indian colleague got a 10 year visa when he applied (n=1, I know).
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Re: US Tourist Visa: Weird form of discrimination

I think if you apply for conference meetings then they might give short term visa but if you apply for tourist visa then you get long term one.

Though its same type of visa but the purpose of travel is different. If I understand visa provider properly, why should s/he give 10 years visa for a person going for conference.
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I think if you apply for conference meetings then they might give short term visa but if you apply for tourist visa then you get long term one.
I have ruled out that possibility-

1. I gave the same tourism reasons for applying for the Visa as my wife IN ADDITION to the conference

2. One of the 3 previous cases I mentioned, was where it was the wife who had a conference, the husband was tagging along. Both were Indian nationals, both were PhD students (working in the same discipline in fact).... so pretty much the whole profile was the same. And yet, the wife got 10 years and the husband 1 year! That seems to reinforce the idea that the discrimination is purely along gender lines.

(But even if what you said is true... shouldn't the same rules of consideration apply to a wife who is tagging along with a husband attending a conference?)
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Re: US Tourist Visa: Weird form of discrimination

so, test the theory, next time, apply for a tourist visa without telling them you need to go to a conference...
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But it's not the same kind of Visa, is it?
Nope... same type of visa- B1/B2. And once you get it, you can travel for any tourism or business (i.e. without pay from a US-based company, such as a conference or a meeting etc.) purpose.
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Re: US Tourist Visa: Weird form of discrimination

maybe they think the women will want to come back again for shopping
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so, test the theory, next time, apply for a tourist visa without telling them you need to go to a conference...
Yep, I was planning to apply for a tourist visa the moment the current visa expires. If nothing else, we would know the real reason (I wish they would come out with it honestly, but that would be wishful thinking I know )

... I just hoped to get some insights into the "why" behind this policy from people in the forum
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maybe they think the women will want to come back again for shopping
Hey, even men would shell out money in Vegas and on road trips... all you need to do is just give us a chance
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Re: US Tourist Visa: Weird form of discrimination

Obviously, it is because us evil Americans just want to steal, rape, plunder, kidnap and keep your dazzlingly hot Indian wives hostage for at least ten years while you go about your business in Mumbai. Right?

Because, you know, there aren't enough hot women in America to go around, so we are branching out.
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Re: US Tourist Visa: Weird form of discrimination

If you want to know the number of Indian Citizens who have applied for a B1/B2 visa, the number approved for 10 year visas, versus 1 year visas, and the processing time, you can use the Freedom of Information Act and make a request to the Department of State.

http://foia.state.gov/
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Re: US Tourist Visa: Weird form of discrimination

Do you have family living in the USA?

If so that may be the reason... (you are higher risk)

Not certain if its still relevant, but past experience - ~8 years ago we applied with some friends for B1/B2, all got 10 years except one person got 1 year because she told them that her brother lives in USA. (There was a section of you have relatives living in the US on the application form). But she got the 10 year when she reaplied the second time. I imagine they think you have a higher chance of staying there illegally, finding a job etc if you have family there. (though not your fault really).
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Re: US Tourist Visa: Weird form of discrimination

Perhaps it's not discrimination. Perhaps they just don't want you to have a ten year visa.
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Do you have family living in the USA?

If so that may be the reason... (you are higher risk)]
Interesting proposition... must check with the other cases.
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Perhaps it's not discrimination. Perhaps they just don't want you to have a ten year visa.
Always a possibility with every single case where the reason is unknown.
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Re: US Tourist Visa: Weird form of discrimination

Dear members and all

First of all, I sincerely apologise to post once again here as I already did in Introductions section by mistake. Moreover, I have no idea about members reactions if I change the title so I just let the title as such. Thank you for understanding.

I would like to apply for a US visit visa and the sole purpose of which is to meet relatives.

I wish someone could help me to understand which visa type should I select.


In the Consular Electronic Application Center (CEAC) website, while filling-up the D160 form it shows three options under visa category "B".

1. Business visitor B1
2. Business and Pleasure visitor (Temporary visitor) B1/B2
3. Tourism or Medical Treatment B2

From the above, I have selected the second one B1 / B2.

After duly filling up the D160 form, now I need to schedule my appointment for which I need to pay the visa fee. For this, I have been redirected to https://cgifederal.secure.force.com/ website.

In the above website, it once again gives three options for the visa type under visa category "B".

1. Business visitor B1
2. Business and Pleasure visitor B1/B2
3. Tourism or Medical treatment B2

In the above options, they removed the wording "Temporary visitor" for B1 / B2 so comes the ambiguity.

Should I still select the second option (B1/B2) as I have opted for this one in the D160 or else the third one. It is really confusing and quite annoying. I really hope someone could help in this one.

Thank you in advance and await your valuable reply. Have a nice day.

Greetings
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Re: US Tourist Visa: Weird form of discrimination

Why would you want B1 or B1/B2? You're not doing business in the US.

Select B2.

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Q: What is a visitor related (B-2) visa?

A: Generally, the travel appropriate for a visitor (B-2) visitor visa includes travel for:

Tourism or Family Visits
Medical Reasons (see below for further details)
Participation in Social Events
Armed Forces Dependents
Dependents of Crewmen
Short Course of Study
Amateur Entertainers and Athletes
From here. It's the US embassy in Australia but I'm sure you'll find the same info on other US embassy sites.


Try the Visa wizard here. It also leads to B2.
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How is it confusing. Number 3 - tourism. Why would you think anything else? You're going to see relatives and visit some of the locals sites while you're there I guess so that makes you a tourist.

Number 2 - Business and Pleasure means you're going to do business, but will also be visiting local tourist sites. That's not what you're going to be doing.
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Re: US Tourist Visa: Weird form of discrimination

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Why would you want B1 or B1/B2? You're not doing business in the US.

Select B2.
I stated my travel purpose very clearly that I would like to visit my relatives in the US.

Moreover, I asked the above question because in the D160 form I selected B1 / B2 and already submitted. So, if I select in the appointment website B2, is it still ok? In that case, Should I ask to reopen the D160 to change the visa type from B1 / B2 and resubmit? Please clarify.

Thank you very much for the links.

Await your reply.

Best regards
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