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Beginner photography - where to start?

I'm quite interested in getting into photography etc. Currently I just point & shoot

Could anyone give me tips on;

A good entry level SLR camera/lens (but not expensive)
A good website to learn about taking photos/videos
How to learn about editing photos/videos

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Re: Beginner photography - where to start?

What are you interested in shooting?
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A good website to learn about taking photos/videos

How to learn about editing photos/videos



Youtube for both.


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I'm quite interested in getting into photography etc. Currently I just point & shoot

Could anyone give me tips on;

A good entry level SLR camera/lens (but not expensive)
A good website to learn about taking photos/videos
How to learn about editing photos/videos

Thanks
Before we start... what is your budget?
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What are you interested in shooting?
A bit of everything really. Landscapes, sports events, wildlife.

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Before we start... what is your budget?
Hmm. Well I'd like to start with something low cost, a body and basic lens, that I could upgrade by adding better lenses etc in the future. If i get into it I could upgrade the body in the future (but be able to use lenses I've already bought).

Maybe around the £400 mark?
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Re: Beginner photography - where to start?

If we can please ensure we are talking about Swiss Francs that would be a good start... so do you mean 400chf or 600chf (400gbp converted)?
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If we can please ensure we are talking about Swiss Francs that would be a good start... so do you mean 400chf or 600chf (400gbp converted)?
600chf …. sorry I always think in gbp . Also I might get more for my money if I buy in the UK or US when I go there in May? Switzerland being not the cheapest place to buy anything!
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Re: Beginner photography - where to start?

I'd recommend the Nikon D5200 or a Canon 600D with kit lenses. So you'll have more manual control than the entry levels.

For learning photography, I suggest you start with the camera basics first: aperture, shutter speed, f-stop, etc. Youtube is the place to go.
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Re: Beginner photography - where to start?

I find Nikon cameras very user friendly, being a beginner this should help.
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Re: Beginner photography - where to start?

Either of those cameras are good but I would ditch the kit lens, they tend to be quite rubbish. Buy body only then get a lens separately.

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I'd recommend the Nikon D5200 or a Canon 600D with kit lenses. So you'll have more manual control than the entry levels.

For learning photography, I suggest you start with the camera basics first: aperture, shutter speed, f-stop, etc. Youtube is the place to go.
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600chf …. sorry I always think in gbp . Also I might get more for my money if I buy in the UK or US when I go there in May? Switzerland being not the cheapest place to buy anything!
Sigh... I wish people spoke form actual experience instead of assumption and hearsay. Switzerland is cheaper than the UK and any other European country for almost all major electronics and computing items, as you will clearly see if you take an hour to compare prices. In addition, here we get longer warranty.

Anyway, good luck with the search.
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Either of those cameras are good but I would ditch the kit lens, they tend to be quite rubbish. Buy body only then get a lens separately.
What kind of lens would you recommend?
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Either of those cameras are good but I would ditch the kit lens, they tend to be quite rubbish. Buy body only then get a lens separately.
The Nikon 18-105mm kit lens is not "rubbish" at all... why say that?

Review on Photogrpahyblog http://www.photographyblog.com/revie..._ed_vr_review/

Review on ephotozine http://www.ephotozine.com/article/ni...s-review-15049

Review on brtom http://www.bythom.com/Nikkor18-105lensreview.htm

Amazon reviews http://www.amazon.co.uk/product-revi...owViewpoints=1 and http://www.amazon.com/Nikon-18-105mm...RankDescending

It's a great starter lens perfect for a beginner before they get more confident and move on to other things!
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Either of those cameras are good but I would ditch the kit lens, they tend to be quite rubbish. Buy body only then get a lens separately.
I disagree. a 18-55mm kit lens is sharp and is a great way to start with photography, also considering the price-quality ratio. Since the OP isn't decided which field of photography to focus on yet, I think this is a very good option.

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Sigh... I wish people spoke form actual experience instead of assumption and hearsay. Switzerland is cheaper than the UK and any other European country for almost all major electronics and computing items, as you will clearly see if you take an hour to compare prices. In addition, here we get longer warranty.

Anyway, good luck with the search.
I second this. In Finland, electronics are way more expensive compared to here in Switzerland.
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What kind of lens would you recommend?
If you get a Canon, and money is tight, I really recommend the Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II (2514A011)

It's only about 95 CHF and gets rave reviews with good comparisons against lenses costing ten times as much.

Why?

It doesn't have the complicated optics of zoom lenses (and those with image stabilization etc) which are rubbish on the cheaper lenses, and simply awful, as Lou said, on the kit lenses.

Large aperture, which, as you'll learn, means you can take better shots in low light and you'll get a narrow depth of field at 1.8 which will give you nice portraits.

There's no zoom but the images are so sharp, you can zoom and crop in editing.
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If you get a Canon, and money is tight, I really recommend the Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II (2514A011)

It's only about 95 CHF and gets rave reviews with good comparisons against lenses costing ten times as much.

Why?

It doesn't have the complicated optics of zoom lenses (and those with image stabilization etc) which are rubbish on the cheaper lenses, and simply awful, as Lou said, on the kit lenses.

Large aperture, which, as you'll learn, means you can take better shots in low light and you'll get a narrow depth of field at 1.8 which will give you nice portraits.

There's no zoom but the images are so sharp, you can zoom and crop in editing.
The problem with a prime lens, for a beginner, is that it's a prime lens. The OP would have a hard time getting wider shots with it.
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It's only about 95 CHF and gets rave reviews with good comparisons against lenses costing ten times as much.

Why?

It doesn't have the complicated optics of zoom lenses (and those with image stabilization etc) which are rubbish on the cheaper lenses, and simply awful, as Lou said, on the kit lenses.
Sorry to say, but Lou was wrong, and so are you. The Nikon kit lens is not "simply awful", it takes very good photos for the market segment and level it is aimed at, many professional and user reviews confirm this. It's the perfect starter lens, and I have have also had great results with it too for portraits, landscapes and general street photography.

Seems like there is some generalizing going on here, as opposed to actual experience with the lenses that are being criticised.

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The problem with a prime lens, for a beginner, is that it's a prime lens. The OP would have a hard time getting wider shots with it.


I wasn't suggesting this was the only lens that the OP should buy, but it is a good one to have in the bad, and at very low cost for high quality.


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Sorry to say, but Lou was wrong, and so are you. The Nikon kit lens is not "simply awful", it takes very good photos for the market segment and level it is aimed at, many professional and user reviews confirm this. It's the perfect starter lens, and I have have also had great results with it too for portraits, landscapes and general street photography.

Seems like there is some generalizing going on here, as opposed to actual experience with the lenses that are being criticised.
I was referring to the Canon kit lenses, of which I have two different ones with two bodies. I have no experience of the Nikon ones.
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Re: Beginner photography - where to start?

YOU ARE ALL WRONG!

Asking for camera advice on the internet should be banned. Opinions are like arseholes, everybody has one.
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I was referring to the Canon kit lenses, of which I have two different ones with two bodies. I have no experience of the Nikon ones.
Lou wasn't speaking about only Canon, she was speaking generally, and you said she was right without referring only to Canon.

Nikon is better anyway.

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