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Re: HDR Photography, examples and programs to use

I think you got the wrong end of the stick of what I said - or maybe I didn't make myself clear - Photomatix the free software is known to often cause those heavy grey outlines and shadows and CS3 is known to do a "better" merge job so you don't see the grey, but you still get the different light effects which is I think the whole point of HDR.

The "effect" is still subjective isn't it - I can still say I don't like it?

Not sure this is the place for the whole analogue/digital argument, I do mainly use digital particularly when someone is paying but I still love my film cameras and wish I could afford to use them more often.

As far as software goes - I'm in love with Lightroom and it has made processing hundreds of wedding photos that much less of a pain in the a**e.
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Re: HDR Photography, examples and programs to use

I don't mean to start an argument. Perhaps I came over wrong.

With trasitional photography one had to understand light and chemistry. The digital age and software have given us a very different canvas to paint on with a very different brush.

Purists might turn their noses up at HDR, possibly because they see it as artificial competition or cheating. I liek the effect, it's dramatic and yes, too good to be true.

For me digital photography and software give us a new medium of expression without having to dedicate a life-time to learning a particular discipline.

The digital age goes hand in hand with instant gratification, which is the other side of the traditional coin. I don't think it's possible for digital photography to be compared with traditional. Their paths cross, but they are two different animals.

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Photomatix is "known" for those heavy grey outlines/shadows as seen in the example of the church, and also the outlines on the clouds on the valley shots giving a sometimes surreal effect.

Apparently using Photoshop is a better option - but Photomatix is free and Photoshop CS3 isn't.

Personally I'm not a fan - would rather use old-fashioned graduated ND filters - but I can see the advantages. HDR is a look you either like or don't - I'm in the latter category.

There is tons of this stuff on Flickr as already pointed out.
Hi Sarahw

I work as a photographer in Basel. I do a lot of location photography of offices , halls, sports stadiums, and various buildings etc., and never use extra lighting. Just a solid tripod and long shutter speeds.

I photograph lighting situations and trying to retain detail of my firms' lights while keeping the midtones "real" gives headaches sometimes.

Although I bracket my exposures, there is never (for me anyway) an ideal exposure. There might be details in the shadows on one image with blown out highlights and an opposite situation on another. In the last couple of months I've been experimenting with HDR to try and get detail in all those areas (which is why it was originally developed).

I'm not a fan of the garish colours seen in lots of HDR examples, preferring instead a little contrast boost or showing details in the shadows.

The programme that I'm using "Dynamic Photo HDR" from Mediachance allows the end result to be easily changed. It even allows a fake HDR to be made from only one image.

I'll see if I can dig out some results and post them here.
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Re: HDR Photography, examples, programs to use and discussion

I've been trying to better understand HDR myself, over the past year or so... Here are my thoughts...

HDR is not a sin. Film has a greater capability to capture dynamic range. Eyes capture an even wider dynamic range. The desire for photographers to capture a greater range is natural. The level at which an HDR image appears as un-natural, is up to the user and the tool.

Here are a couple of HDR attempts over the past year... Im still not quite satisfied that Im getting it completely, but Im getting there... With CS3, its tough to get the 'garish' effect, which I personally am not looking for anyhow. Its more about how you handle the curves.



Enjoyed taking a HDR to B&W...



I dont care for this photo, but being able to see the power line as it crossed the sun was a technical success...



This was tough, but getting close...



I was very pleased with this one...

Id love to know if anyone else is having success using CS3 for HDR?

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Re: HDR Photography, examples, programs to use and discussion

Agreed on the dynamic range, the main difference between these two versions of the same shot. Which version you might like more is a matter of taste.
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I dig it J_T!
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Agreed on the dynamic range, the main difference between these two versions of the same shot. Which version you might like more is a matter of taste.
Personally I didn't like the one labeled Neubruck-original, the timbers (especially in the foreground, left side) look green where as the other picture the wood looks more natural. Great subject.. and no tourists..! You must have been there early in the day.
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Re: HDR Photography, examples, programs to use and discussion

I experimented with this pic taken in Spain using a single image. (tripods weren't allowed)

I didn't like too much, the dark arches. My programme made in my opinion, a more "natural" result.

Anybody care to guess where the image was made? Clue: Ernest Hemmingway...
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I experimented with this pic taken in Spain using a single image. (tripods weren't allowed)

I didn't like too much, the dark arches. My programme made in my opinion, a more "natural" result.

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I am really impressed by some of these pictures. However can someone tell me what HDR actually is ? It was not mentioned in the original post...

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While I'm enjoying this thread, can I make a request?

We have limited disk space currently, so if you are going to post a large image , could you a do us a huge favor and host it on another site and link to it rather than uploading it to EF?

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High Dynamic range. A method developed for producing an effect more akin to that seen with the eyes. i.e. details in the shadows and no burnt out highlights.
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OK got it. So assuming that you are making multiple exposure of the scene to provide the material for this one HDR image, how do you create the images at the different exposures ? Does your all-singing-all-dancing camera perform the multiple-exposure for you in quick succession to permit more dynamic images, or do you need to perform a manual over ride ?

What are the criteria for choice of exposure for each image ?

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OK got it. So assuming that you are making multiple exposure of the scene to provide the material for this one HDR image, how do you create the images at the different exposures ? Does your all-singing-all-dancing camera perform the multiple-exposure for you in quick succession to permit more dynamic images, or do you need to perform a manual over ride ?

What are the criteria for choice of exposure for each image ?

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settings on the camera, you can bracket your pics to expose at different exposure & then just click of two or three pics to merge with the software.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_dynamic_range_imaging
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