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Well, the Nikon 1.4 has different bokeh to the Canon 1.2, I think the bokeh is more pleasing from the Canon. How is this pixel peeping or being stuck on kit? I'm not a kit talker type.

In my line of work I DO need several thousands of $ in equipment, as I need professional kit and back ups.

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Ah, I thought this was a thread for hobby toggers. As it's now a profi togger thread I'll bail. Thanks for clearing that up.
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Old 11.01.2015, 20:18
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Ah, I thought this was a thread for hobby toggers. As it's now a profi togger thread I'll bail. Thanks for clearing that up.

I didn't see it was for one or the other. Why bail? I don't bite, unless you taste like chocolate
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Re: ****The Photography Discussion Thread****

Well I am hobbyist only. Although I have invested lot of money but I do not earn from the gears .
The best thing which strikes my mind is purchase Canon Cameras and few of their lenase and put them (both Nikon and canon ) on Rent to make some money . lol

Anyone how is Lens Rental Market in Switzerland especially in Zurich ?
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I think we shouldn't start a debate over Nikon Vs Canon .
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surefire way to liven things up!
Please, lets not guys... not really in the spirit of a friendly thread to get into that kind of pointless stuff.

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Ok, I'll get this straight right now. I'm not singling you out, but your comment there is really the reason where I lost the passion for photography.

Too many people talk about kit rather than actual photography. It really doesn't matter whether you have a 1.2 or a 1.4 lens - nobody is going to notice except for you.

Stop with the pixel peeping and concentrate on getting stunning images. Apart from certain specialist areas you don't need several thousand worth of gear and quite frankly you can get stunning images from a phone camera.

I've said enough, and will now crawl back under my rock.
If other people talking rubbish made you lose the passion, then possibly it was never really truly there in the first place? I mean, why would other people talking about kit make you stop doing something you love? I do it for myself.

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Ah, I thought this was a thread for hobby toggers. As it's now a profi togger thread I'll bail. Thanks for clearing that up.
Relax man... I'm purely a hobby togger, and every thread has people posting the occasional bit of silly stuff you don't agree with.

But anyway Slaps, you don't snap at all any more? If so that's a shame, you took some lovely photos.
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Old 11.01.2015, 21:52
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But anyway Slaps, you don't snap at all any more? If so that's a shame, you took some lovely photos.
Yeah well, shit happens.
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Yeah well, shit happens.
Well, I hope things, whatever they are work out for you.
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Re: ****The Photography Discussion Thread****

Anyone considering investing in lenses should check out what is available second hand. If you don't trust eBay, the camera shops here have a great selection of second hand lenses listed on their websites (and they often include a limited guarantee).

If you don't mind being limited to manual focus (or shoot video) you can get some fantastic older primes...
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Well, I am staying in Konstanz this week right on the lake, and spent an hour in the freezing cold taking some lovely long exposure shots with my D750 last night. It's amazing how well the sensor does even at ISO 400/800 with a Shutter speed of 6s, 8s or 10s (depending on ISO) and aperture of 8. The wireless capability means I can put my camera on a wall or rock and use my phone to release the shutter, no tripod required and no hand shake to interfere. I never really played around with long exposures so much on my previous D7000, but the sensor performance of the D750 is really in another league and I can't wait to process the shots in Lightroom on the weekend. Will post a couple on the forum when I'm done.
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Old 13.01.2015, 11:35
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Hah yeah, the first time I stuck a prime on my old D7000 and compared it to the kit lens I was like "Oh. My God.". Couldn't believe the increase in sharpness and the kind of shots you could get in low light indoors and outdoors.

It's just a shame that Nikon don't seem to do a "cheap" equivalent 35mm lens for FX cameras as they do for DX format... the only Nikon AF-S 1.8G I can find is around 550chf!
The 35mm F/2 is a great little lens. Available for CHF320 new, or about CHF200 used on eBay. Great as a slightly wide walk-around lens on FX.

http://www.pc-ostschweiz.ch/product-...parnr=12833201
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The 35mm F/2 is a great little lens. Available for CHF320 new, or about CHF200 used on eBay. Great as a slightly wide walk-around lens on FX.

http://www.pc-ostschweiz.ch/product-...parnr=12833201
I did some research into it too, and,while it's relatively cheap vs the other options, a lot of reviews (both user and professional) I read are from people that are not fully happy with the sharpness at f2/8 or below. I want to get something that is sharp at f/1.8 and below, and the Sigma 35mm 1.4 Art seems to be that lens. I think in the long run (considering a good lens can provide years of faithful service) it's worth investing in something better than the Nikon f2/0, when I have as capable a sensor as is in the D750.
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Re: ****The Photography Discussion Thread****

Why don't you consider Nikon 24-70mm F/2.8G ED ? Its amazingly sharp along its entire focal length even wide open and you will be having a very useful focal length as well . Plus you will be having a flexibility to take lanscapes. For sure , Nikon 24-70mm can shine with D750's sensor .
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Why don't you consider Nikon 24-70mm F/2.8G ED ? Its amazingly sharp along its entire focal length even wide open and you will be having a very useful focal length as well . Plus you will be having a flexibility to take lanscapes. For sure , Nikon 24-70mm can shine with D750's sensor .
I'm not considering it because it is 1500chf, and it is not going to be anywhere near as good in very low light (1.4 vs 2.8 is a big difference), or as optically uniform/sharp (it's a zoom), as the Sigma 35mm 1.4 Art. It is simply a different lens to what i need, and you can't really compare them.

Besides, I already have the 24-120 F4 for my zoom needs, which is a decent lens for walk-around situations, and I don't generally use or need it in the situations I would use a 35mm for.

EDIT - Review from Cameralabs: http://www.cameralabs.com/reviews/Ni.../verdict.shtml

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So seems not a good fit for a lot of primarily 35mm photography...

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Old 13.01.2015, 18:40
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Hi guys,

Shooting with the canon 60D here, great camera that has become a hobby for me. Currently shooting with a 24-105mm and 40mm Pancake lens currently. I had the "nifty fifty 50mm 1.8" and loved the lens so much that I actually sold it and will upgrade to the 50mm 1.4 soon. I recently have been doing some movies so I upgraded my microphone as well to the Rode Stereo VideoMic. Looking forward to this summer to get some great pictures.
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I became so despondent with digital photography that I downgraded my cameras. Pixels this, censors that and bokeh-schmokeh. Listening to people going on about digital photography sounds like people discussing which TV dinner tastes best from which microwave oven.

There is very little love for the image (or indeed the craft). It's mostly a technobabble pissing contest. Good on them I say, into the wind!

This is a lens.



This is a camera



This is a censor (just look at the size of it!)



and this is a photograph (just look at that swirly bokeh!)



And this will really please you, you can even get a Petzval for your Canon or Nikon.



This is my favourite camera. It's all made of cheap plastic and uses that stuff called 'film'. It comes with a roll of black tape to block up the light-leaks. One needs to go into a darkroom and cook with chemicals, silver and light in order to print 'pictures' or 'photographs'. It's loads and loads of fun.

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Very nice post! I will not look up specifics of it at this time as it is very late on my watch. I love the click, click, click convenience of digital so far for me; it will be hard to argue that going back a step to "mechanical" type manual exposure film is is convenient in changing times. I can very easily say that for the last 15 years my photography has been getting better and better with technology. It is probably way to long of a discussion on cameras, lens, technology, film etc to really get down to any "best choice." The the right thing or choice is different for every one.
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I became so despondent with digital photography that I downgraded my cameras. Pixels this, censors that and bokeh-schmokeh. Listening to people going on about digital photography sounds like people discussing which TV dinner tastes best from which microwave oven.

There is very little love for the image (or indeed the craft). It's mostly a technobabble pissing contest. Good on them I say, into the wind!
I'm always amused reading posts like this, so thanks for giving me my morning chuckle.

Digital photography is the present and the future, and the obvious reason it is now increasingly technical, and prompting those kind of discussions, is because the technology behind it is getting increasingly more complex and sophisticated. However, I understand that this may be a little complicated or bewildering for people of the older generations who grew up using film and have been unable to adapt to a digital world... it's bound to leave some people behind. Same with many areas of technology, I guess.

However, saying that the art has gone from photography is pure nonsense, there have never been more stunning images produced, and the technology we have today allows us to be creative and imaginative in ways that the old film cameras could never even begin to tackle. It's awesome.
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I became so despondent with digital photography that I downgraded my cameras. Pixels this, censors that and bokeh-schmokeh. Listening to people going on about digital photography sounds like people discussing which TV dinner tastes best from which microwave oven.
I know what you mean. This thread should probably be called the photography equipment discussion thread. Given that the entire discussion has been on equipment and interestingly, before your post, there wasn't even a single photograph in the thread!

That said, I have to agree with RD that film is dying out and the future is certainly digital (actually, the present) but film should have a few more years - so I hope you enjoy film while you still can!

While we are talking equipment, I will say that the Holga is my favourite camera to use it is direct and extremely tactile. Although people love the quirky personality of the lens, I find it a shame there is not a high quality lens version to allow it to be a general use camera.
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I'm always amused reading posts like this, so thanks for giving me my morning chuckle.

Digital photography is the present and the future, and the obvious reason it is now increasingly technical, and prompting those kind of discussions, is because the technology behind it is getting increasingly more complex and sophisticated. However, I understand that this may be a little complicated or bewildering for people of the older generations who grew up using film and have been unable to adapt to a digital world... it's bound to leave some people behind. Same with many areas of technology, I guess.

However, saying that the art has gone from photography is pure nonsense, there have never been more stunning images produced, and the technology we have today allows us to be creative and imaginative in ways that the old film cameras could never even begin to tackle. It's awesome.
Such hubris! Morning chuckles indeed :-)

I have a Leica M9-P and Summilux lens for sale if you're interested. It'll give your current setup a proper spanking.
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Such hubris! Morning chuckles indeed :-)

I have a Leica M9-P and Summilux lens for sale if you're interested. It'll give your current setup a proper spanking.
I'm sure it also takes great photos.

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I know what you mean. This thread should probably be called the photography equipment discussion thread. Given that the entire discussion has been on equipment and interestingly, before your post, there wasn't even a single photograph in the thread!

That said, I have to agree with RD that film is dying out and the future is certainly digital (actually, the present) but film should have a few more years - so I hope you enjoy film while you still can!

While we are talking equipment, I will say that the Holga is my favourite camera to use it is direct and extremely tactile. Although people love the quirky personality of the lens, I find it a shame there is not a high quality lens version to allow it to be a general use camera.
So what if it has so far been about equipment? That doesn't mean it won't change and evolve later... equipment is also a big part of digital photography, it's natural for people to talk about and it's a new and young thread. It's a general photography thread and we are free to discuss anything we like about the subject, so don't sweat it, and feel free to contribute whenever you like.
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I know what you mean. This thread should probably be called the photography equipment discussion thread. Given that the entire discussion has been on equipment and interestingly, before your post, there wasn't even a single photograph in the thread!
If good equipment is so important for good photographs then surely we should see much better photographs from those individuals with all the gear - unless of course, choosing and buying equipment becomes the hobby itself and the actual photographs are secondary.

I've seen that with loads of other hobbies. I'm always amazed to see For Sale items here for items, including for example, really expensive bicycles where the owner states, in the advert, only used twice. WTF.
If I had a bike like that, I'd be out on it every day and the advert would read, "Used thousands of times".

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Anyway, back to the discussion over who's got the biggest lense...
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