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Agreed. But sometimes when I look at an amazing image and ask myself why it is so good, it usually conforms to one or more 'rules' of composition.

By the way, I love your photos - they have fantastic atmosphere and feeling.


Absolutely. I was thinking in reference to those particular images.
I mostly shoot black and white as it's where I'm comfortable. One of the reasons why is that the tones and light then form part of the composition. The same is true for colour, but then the colour itself becomes a feature.

It's easier to incorporate the flow of tone and light into the lines of the physical objects in view when working and thinking in monochrome.

A tip here is for digital photographers to turn their view screens to black and white so as not to get distracted by the colour. When you remove the colour, you see the lines more clearly.

The eyes' movement on an image can be manipulated and made to move in accordance with the lines. Lines can be used to keep the viewer locked into the image. This is a deeper level of composition than simply using techniques like rule of thirds. This is the art of composition. An implicit sense of balance lies within us all, whether consciously or unconsciously.

The rules are not to be ignored though, on the contrary they need to be drummed in by rote. Exercise them enough and they become instinctive. We have an internal engine that always runs and learns; It's like an athlete that needs to be trained to build up its own reflex and instinct.

When I shoot square format I get into a 'zone' and it's only on post reflection that I see what my internal spacial engine saw and did for me. I may have deliberately balanced a couple of aspects in the scene, but I can later see how I saw much more without being aware of it. This, I believe is from careful attention and exercise.

I pay very close attention to things like things being perpendicular to the film plane, I like things straight, plumb and perpendicular. If I surrender to these requirements, the rest falls into place.

I guess this is also style. Through our discipline our style emerges.

Many thanks for the compliment by the way.

Here is another picture from the Vitra campus in Weil am Rhein near Basel. Hasselblad with 80mm lens, Fuji Acros film, ISO 100.

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Very nice photo, the light falls perfectly over those chairs.
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I did think of saying the rule of thirds thing but didn't want to sound like the fitness bro in the gym who goes around telling people what they are doing wrong.

I like the idea of the other details being posted with the photo as long as people do not get enamoured by just that. Every light situation is different and I hope we all understand that

The rule of thirds is more a guide vs rule. Some walk around with a grid in their pocket, kind of daft
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Indeed, lets get some photographs on this thread. Here are a couple of pictures from the darkroom. These are of Zug lake, one lovely lunchtime.

This was taken with an old Yashica Mat 124, 6X6 medium format camera. It was printed on expired agfa fiber paper, toned in sepia and cobalt.

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This one was taken with a Hasselblad 500. Printed on Ilford Art 300 paper and toned with sepia and selenium.

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Lovely first image. What is the dark object in the middle?

I'm amazed that there are people still taking the time to work with colour developing/printing! but it seems like the results were well worth it!
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If good equipment is so important for good photographs then surely we should see much better photographs from those individuals with all the gear - unless of course, choosing and buying equipment becomes the hobby itself and the actual photographs are secondary.

I've seen that with loads of other hobbies. I'm always amazed to see For Sale items here for items, including for example, really expensive bicycles where the owner states, in the advert, only used twice. WTF.
If I had a bike like that, I'd be out on it every day and the advert would read, "Used thousands of times".

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Anyway, back to the discussion over who's got the biggest lense...
You've heard the phrase "all the gear and no idea!"?
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Lovely first image. What is the dark object in the middle?

I'm amazed that there are people still taking the time to work with colour developing/printing! but it seems like the results were well worth it!
Thanks Phil. The dark object is a bird sitting on a buoy. This picture is part of a series. The mission was to produce visual Haiku. Simple, minimalist with as few elements as possible.

Less is more.

Here are the other two.

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These are monochrome, black and white. It's the bleaching and toning in sepia and cobalt that gives it the colour. Cobalt only affects dense areas (dark shadows) and the bleach/sepia process tints the highlights. This process is known as split toning.

Just for reference purposes, this is what the original negative would produce if printed in black and white and the final print.

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Had a nice wander up the Uetliberg on Saturday...
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Africa's most southerly Baobab tree. Taken with my Mamiya 7ii, Ilford FP4+ film, liquid emulsion on handmade Japanese Washu paper.

The joys of analog photography :-)

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Thanks Phil. The dark object is a bird sitting on a buoy. This picture is part of a series. The mission was to produce visual Haiku. Simple, minimalist with as few elements as possible.

Less is more.

Here are the other two.

Attachment 94213 Attachment 94214

These are monochrome, black and white. It's the bleaching and toning in sepia and cobalt that gives it the colour. Cobalt only affects dense areas (dark shadows) and the bleach/sepia process tints the highlights. This process is known as split toning.

Just for reference purposes, this is what the original negative would produce if printed in black and white and the final print.

Attachment 94215 Attachment 94216
very nice. i'd never heard of split toning before. it really makes the image in this case.
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Any photo-enthusiasts here in this forum?

Anyone from Schwyz-Zug area?

Also - any recommendations for second-hand equipement? I am looking into 135mm L from Canon, but not sure if new is the path I want to take
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This may help.

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Thanks!
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Thanks, Medea. Threads merged.
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Well, after much soul-searching I decided to sell all of my beloved Nikon DSLR kit and am very likely going to be going with one of the new Fuji mirrorless, either than X-Pro2 or the upcoming Fuji X-T2.

As much as I loved the images it could produce and how it felt like a natural extension of my hand, I just got tired of the weight and bulk of the DSLR and not being able to take it out with me wherever I went without a bag. The Fuji's on the other hand are very pocketable with one of the small prime lenses, and the picture quality on them is phenomenal, I simply adore the colour renditioning.

Another factor was post-processing... I just spent too many hours editing my RAW images to get them looking how I wanted as I could never get the JPEG's looking exactly how I wanted them. The Fuji's on the other hand seem to have near-perfect JPEG output which will mean less time spent hunched over my PC. I will still shoot with RAW when I want the absolute most control, low light etc, but in everyday conditions I just don't think it's needed.

Yes, the Fuji lenses are still pretty expensive, but seem to be very consistent performers and I can see it getting a hell of a lot of use simply due to the fact I will take it out and about with me so much more than any DSLR. Battery life is obviously weaker but meh who cares, I'll just bung an extra couple of batteries in my pocket.
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I just got tired of the weight and bulk of the DSLR and not being able to take it out with me wherever I went without a bag.
Ugh, feel you on this. Upgraded to a Canon6D last year and I'm not complaining () but man is it a beast. Especially with the battery grip! Finally gave in and bought a chest harness... looks touristy as hell but that way I'm sure to bring it with me

I've heard nothing but rave reviews about the mirrorless Fujis... be sure to report back once you've got one in your hands!
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Ugh, feel you on this. Upgraded to a Canon6D last year and I'm not complaining () but man is it a beast. Especially with the battery grip! Finally gave in and bought a chest harness... looks touristy as hell but that way I'm sure to bring it with me

I've heard nothing but rave reviews about the mirrorless Fujis... be sure to report back once you've got one in your hands!
I'm not fully decided yet so will just see how it plays out over the next couple of months... need to get rid of all my Nikon gear first!
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I'm always amused reading posts like this, so thanks for giving me my morning chuckle.

Digital photography is the present and the future, and the obvious reason it is now increasingly technical, and prompting those kind of discussions, is because the technology behind it is getting increasingly more complex and sophisticated. However, I understand that this may be a little complicated or bewildering for people of the older generations who grew up using film and have been unable to adapt to a digital world... it's bound to leave some people behind. Same with many areas of technology, I guess.

However, saying that the art has gone from photography is pure nonsense, there have never been more stunning images produced, and the technology we have today allows us to be creative and imaginative in ways that the old film cameras could never even begin to tackle. It's awesome.
It's an interesting view, I had a call from a Swiss company in Geneva to shoot a feature film using 35mm film, as they say it always looks better, far less headaches & the kids of today can't do it. It's a bit like saying Oil paintings became outdated by water colours. Who would paint a picture today when you could an iPhone.

It's usually down to highlights & skin tone handling. They look very different, the cost per frame means more THINKING before taking the picture

I don't know if you saw the last Bond film? They shot on film the previous one was shot on Alexa, the best digital camera available. Film looks way better blowing digital out of the water.

Unfortunately I can't do the gig as I will be on my honeymoon.
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Ugh, feel you on this. Upgraded to a Canon6D last year and I'm not complaining () but man is it a beast. Especially with the battery grip! Finally gave in and bought a chest harness... looks touristy as hell but that way I'm sure to bring it with me

I've heard nothing but rave reviews about the mirrorless Fujis... be sure to report back once you've got one in your hands!
Yeah they do get rave reviews and the lenses seem to be decent, if a little pricey. I love the thought of a walking around with an X-T2 and pancake lens, would be a great and high quality stealth option.
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Does anyone know if there are any Swiss-based photography forums (as in, message boards like this)? I had a Google but didn't find any...
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Does anyone know if there are any Swiss-based photography forums (as in, message boards like this)? I had a Google but didn't find any...
Perhaps your googlefoo needs a cleaning. Google "schweizer photographie forum"
 

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