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Old 25.10.2016, 18:35
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Re: Heathrow or Gatwick?

The radar technology exists, it's been around for years, Heathrow was one of the first airports to safely land the BAC 111 tristar. The technology only works if both plane and airport are compatible.

The problems with major upgrades or new airports are with the infrastructure, there are not many existing trains or roads going past Southend.

Adding an extra runway to Heathrow will just increase everyone's misery. I really don't care, I haven't been near the place for nearly 35 years when I sat next to an ugly woman in a skirt who called himself Boy George!

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how is it relevant? if i did, do i become completely right and you would bow to my superior experience?
Nothing so sinister. I'm just interested in your perspective, particularly if you are familiar with the area. When I moved there, I was surprised how heavy the air traffic was to the West whilst the noise over Ashford to the South, was negligible. I used to sit in the beer garden of the Five Bells at Horton and count how many plane lights you could see approaching, and it was usually at least 8.

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Why is this necessary?

Surely with modern radar and computer supported decisions, landing a plane in zero visisbility should be a piece of cake.
You would think so. I've landed at Zurich in a proper pea souper that would have closed any of the London airports down.
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Old 25.10.2016, 19:43
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Nothing so sinister. I'm just interested in your perspective, particularly if you are familiar with the area. When I moved there, I was surprised how heavy the air traffic was to the West whilst the noise over Ashford to the South, was negligible. I used to sit in the beer garden of the Five Bells at Horton and count how many plane lights you could see approaching, and it was usually at least 8.
I lived 1.6km directly in front of the runway 100m from the centre of the runway of city airport so very familiar with airplane noise (especially since there are many turboprops flying there).

My point is that it is common sense that airports have noise and if you want to avoid noise, don't live near an airport and preferably also far, far away from big cities.

It's ridiculous that a few people are holding to ransom the economic future of heathrow/london. They should have built the runway by now already.
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Old 25.10.2016, 19:49
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Re: Heathrow or Gatwick?

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You would think so. I've landed at Zurich in a proper pea souper that would have closed any of the London airports down.[/QUOTE]

That depends on the planes, British Airways can land in ZERO visibility at Heathrow, technology costs money not every airline will pay the price.
FWIW I have known both Geneva & Paris airports closed due to snow, so drove instead.......
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My point is that it is common sense that airports have noise and if you want to avoid noise, don't live near an airport and preferably also far, far away from big cities.

It's ridiculous that a few people are holding to ransom the economic future of heathrow/london. They should have built the runway by now already.
Thank you for the perspective, and for what it's worth, I agree to a large extent. I didn't really realise how bad the air pollution was in Horton and Datchet until I moved to Zurich and my body decided to expel the accumulated gunk.

Still think logistically, Heathrow isn't the best option. I've been hearing that by the time this runway is completed, the UK's capacity will be full again, so whewther we like it or not, we really need to look at the other options again and see this as phase 1 of the expansion. Bearing that in mind, perhaps one of the cheaper, less contentious options should have been done first to save on the expensive legal wrangling that has already begun.

Kay Burley (another Wigan gobby mare ) asked some guy on Sky news this afternoon, if it wouldn't make sense for the H2 trainline to end at Heathrow. She really caught him on the back foot, and he refused to answer.


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That depends on the planes, British Airways can land in ZERO visibility at Heathrow, technology costs money not every airline will pay the price.
FWIW I have known both Geneva & Paris airports closed due to snow, so drove instead.......
My flight was Swiss coming in from Athens last December. I was very impressed with the landing.
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Old 26.10.2016, 12:28
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Surely with modern radar and computer supported decisions, landing a plane in zero visibility should be a piece of cake.
Indeed I believe this is what Kloten has invested in, better technology (Ground Based Augmentation System) and a planned longer runway, to enable more and closer foggy landings.

And is that not why europe is sinking gazillions in Galileo (Euro version of GPS) to enable this kind of automation.

Heathrow... the taffic jams, getting from one terminal to another, the "so called" express that costs as much as a mini cab, - it is a seriously terrible airport compared to nearby rivals (CDG, AMS or FRA)
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