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8 years in jail for what ?

A woman was sent to jail in the UK for pretending to be a man, thus deceiving her female partner.

As this was consensual sex between adults, why send her to jail (and for 8 years no less, rapists get less).

As a marketing manager, she definitely has sales skills.
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A woman was sent to jail in the UK for pretending to be a man, thus deceiving her female partner.

As this was consensual sex between adults, why send her to jail (and for 8 years no less, rapists get less).

As a marketing manager, she definitely has sales skills.
She's been found guilty on three counts of Sexual Assault, not of 'Pretending to be a Man'.
As she was using a prosthetic penis without the knowledge or consent of her partner this presumably is the considered cause of the assaults.
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Re: 8 years in jail for what ?

She must have had the most realistic strap-on ever made, or was it a 'lights off' encounter?

I bet the other woman thought, "Well, he may have bigger moobs than me, but he's certainly got some stamina"

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A woman was sent to jail in the UK for pretending to be a man, thus deceiving her female partner.

As this was consensual sex between adults, why send her to jail (and for 8 years no less, rapists get less).

As a marketing manager, she definitely has sales skills.
The United Kingdom is descending into sexual puritanism, worse than anything the Victorians (who were a pretty randy lot, in reality) could impose.

The country has gone batshit crazy. You can be sent to prison for wearing a strap-on or telling an off-colour joke, but if you're caught burgling for the 50th time, you'll just have to paint the walls of the local youth club and go off on your way.

I hope I never have to return there.
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Old 14.11.2015, 15:37
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Re: 8 years in jail for what ?

The friend convinced the victim to wear a blind fold and then to be serviced by an "unknown man".
After about the 8th assault, the victim took of the mask and found it was her female friend had been raping her.

Both of them are a bit weird, but one was a rapist.
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Old 14.11.2015, 15:40
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Re: 8 years in jail for what ?

It wasn't two consenting adults as one of the adults withheld material information.
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Re: 8 years in jail for what ?

What I'm not understanding: If I go into / consent to a sexual relationship with a stranger I've never personally met nor seen, and then continue to meet this person for sex multiple times, how can it be construed that I was abused?
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What I'm not understanding: If I go into / consent to a sexual relationship with a stranger I've never personally met nor seen, and then continue to meet this person for sex multiple times, how can it be construed that I was abused?

There's a difference between assault and abuse... explained here;
http://www.kemh.health.wa.gov.au/ser...rc/what_is.htm

The woman was convicted of the former, not the latter.
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There's a difference between assault and abuse... explained here;
http://www.kemh.health.wa.gov.au/ser...rc/what_is.htm

The woman was convicted of the former, not the latter.
Hi Anjela, the link is no longer in use - do you have another? Thanks
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Old 14.11.2015, 16:58
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Hi Anjela, the link is no longer in use - do you have another? Thanks
http://www.kemh.health.wa.gov.au/ser...rc/what_is.htm
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It wasn't two consenting adults as one of the adults withheld material information.
You like the person, you like the sex, but you get him/her to jail because you can't accept you own attraction?

This needs to be taken further to get legal clarity within the common law because the law as it stands is no way taking gender deception into account, this was interpreted into the law by a judge.
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Old 14.11.2015, 17:42
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...because the law as it stands is no way taking gender deception into account, this was interpreted into the law by a judge.
That's how English law works.
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That's how English law works.
I understood that it can't stay just by one judge, it has to be taken further and challenged. Only then it can stand. Was I making it more complex than it is? Can just any judge do anything and change the (legal) world? Genuine question.
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Old 14.11.2015, 17:50
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Re: 8 years in jail for what ?

Thank for the link, it states that assault is "Sexual assault can be a violent, unexpected, traumatic and sometimes life threatening event or series of events. "

This case is none of the above, the verdict is wrong.
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A woman was sent to jail in the UK for pretending to be a man, thus deceiving her female partner.

As this was consensual sex between adults, why send her to jail (and for 8 years no less, rapists get less).

As a marketing manager, she definitely has sales skills.
Was this Vibriums girlfriend?
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Re: 8 years in jail for what ?

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She was heard to say 'Never mind the quality, feel the length'
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Thank for the link, it states that assault is "Sexual assault can be a violent, unexpected, traumatic and sometimes life threatening event or series of events. "

This case is none of the above, the verdict is wrong.
The judge has clearly decided otherwise.

At a guess I would think the following aspect of this quote from the link apply.
"Sexual assault can be a violent, unexpected, traumatic and sometimes life threatening event or series of events. Sexual assault is ANY unwanted sexual act or behaviour which is threatening, violent, forced or coercive and to which a person has not given consent or was not able to give consent.
Examples include:
  • Putting a penis, object or other parts of the body into someones mouth, anus or vagina".
The victim was rather nave to have put herself in this situation though, and very lucky she wasn't seriously hurt or worse.
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Old 14.11.2015, 18:18
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Re: 8 years in jail for what ?

The Sexual act WAS wanted and nothing happened without consent. 10 times.
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You like the person, you like the sex, but you get him/her to jail because you can't accept you own attraction?

This needs to be taken further to get legal clarity within the common law because the law as it stands is no way taking gender deception into account, this was interpreted into the law by a judge.
Agree. This also on the same note form yesterday:

http://edition.cnn.com/videos/us/201...ghts-movement/
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......and very lucky she wasn't seriously hurt or worse.
Just how BIG was that prosthetic penis?
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