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NHS - No 1 for health care ?

Much as I admire the NHS, frankly it's not a patch on the Swiss system.

http://www.bbc.com/news/health-40608253
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Much as I admire the NHS, frankly it's not a patch on the Swiss system.

http://www.bbc.com/news/health-40608253
There are a lot of medical progress and treatments that come from NHS doctors and funded research.

Plus they seem to keep the thing ticking along despite the best efforts of the government to kill all but the bottom of the barrel funding. That's pretty impressive.
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Old 14.07.2017, 17:06
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Re: NHS - No 1 for health care ?

All looks nice for the NHS until you look at the section called "Outcome" All rather falls down there which is a bit unfortunate when you consider that is actually the main objective of the exercise.

Really slams the US system though, doesn't it.
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Old 14.07.2017, 17:17
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Re: NHS - No 1 for health care ?

I'm with Baboon, the numbers look really nice if you don't mind not being healed or dying while your case is dealt with efficiently and inexpensively.

Mr Hunt's statement

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These outstanding results are a testament to the dedication of NHS staff, who despite pressure on the front line are delivering safer, more compassionate care than ever.
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These numbers are proof that we're doing the right thing by cutting back renumeration and staffing levels - these people are so great that they'll eventually be happy to do it for free.
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Re: NHS - No 1 for health care ?

I think the NHS is outstanding. Bugger all funding, too many chiefs, run invariably by a politician who doesn't have a Scooby, constantly with a target on its collective back... and it does amazing things. With a large, increasingly ageing population. Well deserved top spot if you ask me.
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Old 14.07.2017, 17:25
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Re: NHS - No 1 for health care ?

Do agree with one of the comments below the article about the NHS doing elective surgeries. If people want these for no better reason than to change their looks then they should pay privately for it. And no, I'm not talking about those people so traumatised by their looks for whatever reason in that suggestion. More like this one:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...gar-daddy.html

Not to mention all the tourism treatment abuse.
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This is a crap study carried out by an organisation that has a political agenda in the US, nothing more. Unsurprisingly the results are the same as 3 years ago (UK top, US bottom).

The Euro Health Consumer Index provide a more impartial survey.
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Not to mention all the tourism treatment abuse.
Health tourism costs the NHS about 0.3% of its budget per year. I don't think getting that 0.3% back is going to right all the wrongs of the NHS.
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Re: NHS - No 1 for health care ?

No, but it would help a bit.
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Re: NHS - No 1 for health care ?

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Much as I admire the NHS, frankly it's not a patch on the Swiss system.

http://www.bbc.com/news/health-40608253
Very much dependent on what you are being treated for.
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Very much dependent on what you are being treated for.
Yes, but can say the same for any health system methinks. So far we can't complain about either system - Swiss or UK.
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No, but it would help a bit.
I don't think the effort required to save 0.3% of the budget on so called health tourism would outweigh the benefits.
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Health tourism costs the NHS about 0.3% of its budget per year. I don't think getting that 0.3% back is going to right all the wrongs of the NHS.
A huge proportion of health tourism is UK expats returning 'back home' for NHS treatment and operations they are no longer entitled to.
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Re: NHS - No 1 for health care ?

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A huge proportion of health tourism is UK expats returning 'back home' for NHS treatment and operations they are no longer entitled to.
Do you have stats to back that up? Because that's not included in the 0.3% figure because the way the NHS is set up it's next to impossible to determine how many people do this and doctors have no interest in policing health tourism anyway.
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Re: NHS - No 1 for health care ?

However the government does.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...nt-law-change/

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-st...-a7485226.html
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