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Now, just who gives a flying fart. Why don't you Brits lay off the archaic, incestrual caste system for a minute and stop celebrating people who were born into royalty like they're someone special?
Until the undemocratic system of monarchy is abolished (and it isn't likely to be, at least not within my lifetime), the affairs of the head of state, her heirs and the parents of her heirs, are a matter of public interest.

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Now, just who gives a flying fart. Why don't you Brits lay off the archaic, incestual caste system for a minute and stop celebrating people who were born into royalty like they're someone special?
She wasn't born into royalty. Ordinary but probably quite privileged gal, married a prince, got burned by royal life, turned her new-found celeb status into an influential and effective campaigner, moved mountains, died leaving two kids behind.
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Now, just who gives a flying fart. Why don't you Brits lay off the archaic, incestrual caste system for a minute and stop celebrating people who were born into royalty like they're someone special?
It gives the country an identity & tradition. It's not like we are going to herald fish and chips. I'm not a royalist either but I can see their function. Brings in the tourists. I bought a lovely tray in the Queens shop at Buckingham Palace for my caravan. Gives me a laugh.
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Old 31.08.2017, 13:01
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Re: Where were you when you heard the news?

Lady D's wedding: A busker with a cold (worst thing) in Amsterdam, luckily cozy in a flat that some Dutch let me take over for 5 weeks. (in hindsight I definitely had the better deal).
Lady D's death: No idea
The fall of the Berlin wall: Coincidentally in front of the TV in Adliswil - realizing I'm watching probably the biggest event in history I shall ever see in my life time. And very, very happy. (Then I still thought the Ex-DDR-people would make something of it ).
9/11 - working on a thesis when all of a sudden there was CNN on my tv (CNN is not allowed in my house ). Took me a while to realize why (all channels had switched to it) and what was happening.
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Never understood why we should feel sorry for someone who died while being in a car with an obvious drunk driver who was heavily overspeeding and nobody wearing a seatbelt. Would it been anybody else we'd be "happy" they chose the pillar instead of slamming into another car and perhaps wiping out an innocent family.

Even in the Netherlands a bunch of people felt upset about the accident since they insistent in believing the fairytale of the normal girl next door who became a prinses of a kindness the world has rarely seen before.

I have no clue where i was or what i was doing, I do recall hearing about 9/11 as a fresh memory, with the death of Diana i did not feel anything would change or it would be important, while with 9/11 it was clear things would change and they indeed did.
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Re: Where were you when you heard the news?

No idea where I particularly was, but for many people at my part of the world at the time, the name was probably familiar, if not famous, but didn't particularly mean anything for them. Those people, who're essentially interested, were probably those who're stuck in their colonial nostalgia
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Old 31.08.2017, 13:51
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Well, I am heartless too then

Was living in London at the time and I couldn't get over the madness after she died. People's lives put on hold, holidays cancelled as more and more people flocked to London to cry. I was flabbergasted by the whole thing. I remember heartlessly thinking that the London florists had done extremely well as surely they must've sold out of flowers going by the amount laid at those gates.

Yes, sad thing for sure, a lamb to the slaughter her marriage into the Royal family etc. and I am sure she was a lovely lady and all that.. but..

Brilliant article here from Hilary Mantel 'The Princess Myth'
Make that 3 of us then. I really don't know why all the fuss over her. She was okay, but what she brought to the Royal lifestyle she learnt from the Queen Mum, the Queen, Princess Anne, etc, etc. Yes, she brought her own way of doing it, but she wasn't unique by any means.

All the complaints because the Queen decided to stay at Balmoral to protect the children from the situation were simply crazy. They needed to be out of the spotlight to deal with their grief yet everyone called her heartless because she didn't rush down to London and join in the mass cry-fest.

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Now, just who gives a flying fart. Why don't you Brits lay off the archaic, incestrual caste system for a minute and stop celebrating people who were born into royalty like they're someone special?
Why not? They're more special than any other "celebrities" out there. But if you prefer winners from Big Brother, Britain's Got Talent, Bake Off, etc, etc, for your special people go ahead and worship them. And I take the Royal Family over any President/Prime Minster in the world.

And here we go again:

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-41106099

Florists must be loving this.

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Re: Where were you when you heard the news?

Had just moved back to the US (Indianapolis) after 4 years in London. The news broke on the TV. Wife was very upset.
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Re: Where were you when you heard the news?

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Never understood why we should feel sorry for someone who died while being in a car with an obvious drunk driver who was heavily overspeeding and nobody wearing a seatbelt. Would it been anybody else we'd be "happy" they chose the pillar instead of slamming into another car and perhaps wiping out an innocent family.

Even in the Netherlands a bunch of people felt upset about the accident since they insistent in believing the fairytale of the normal girl next door who became a prinses of a kindness the world has rarely seen before.

I have no clue where i was or what i was doing, I do recall hearing about 9/11 as a fresh memory, with the death of Diana i did not feel anything would change or it would be important, while with 9/11 it was clear things would change and they indeed did.
Hmm, there's some truth here. However, she was quite pretty, kind and shy and very likeable. (I was a teenager so it was very easy to buy into the whole mythology)
However, judging the whole story now, there were some things that maybe were not the most respectable things to do as a princess. But who are we to judge, really.
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Hmm, there's some truth here. However, she was quite pretty, kind and shy and very likeable. (I was a teenager so it was very easy to buy into the whole mythology)
However, judging the whole story now, there were some things that maybe were not the most respectable things to do as a princess. But who are we to judge, really.
Sure, she was easy to identify with for working class people, but the admiration went far above just identifying and liking and took on a level which almost resembled mass-hysteria in my eyes.

I cannot imagine in for example the Netherlands any girl marrying into the royal family ever getting close to the status she managed to achieve in the U.K. (and outside of it)

Big difference in my eyes is also that the Dutch royal family appears to be more accessible for the normal population, so we don't see them as a distant higher class. (I shook hands with the former Queen when she visited the political leader of the province (no clue about an english word for such function), it was just her car and two policeman on motors, no press, no audience, just a little boy who's father told that the Queen after the official things was likely to pay that guy a visit, so me and my sister went there, and we were the only ones, we could just walk up to her on the pavement, shook hands and she probably said something friendly of which i have no clue anymore.
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Looking back for me it's clear that 31st August 1997 was the specific date that Britain changed for good. The stiff upper lip was gone, never to be seen again. The "keep calm and carry on" cohort was replaced by "me! me! me!" desperation. Diana was the catalyst, Blair the opportunist and now we have the X-Factor generation, all too willing to blub in public. Andy Murray became a national hero when he balled his eyes out on Center Court. It's the same in the face of terrorism, an attack happens and there's a mad scramble of people falling over each other to be the most poingent and distraught. Kids in 20 years will think the words "fortitude" and "stoic" are foreign, when once upon a time they defined the very essence of being British.
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Looking back for me it's clear that 31st August 1997 was the specific date that Britain changed for good. The stiff upper lip was gone, never to be seen again. The "keep calm and carry on" cohort was replaced by "me! me! me!" desperation. Diana was the catalyst, Blair the opportunist and now we have the X-Factor generation, all too willing to blub in public. Andy Murray became a national hero when he balled his eyes out on Center Court. It's the same in the face of terrorism, an attack happens and there's a mad scramble of people falling over each other to be the most poingent and distraught. Kids in 20 years will think the words "fortitude" and "stoic" are foreign, when once upon a time they defined the very essence of being British.
Bloody hell, Richard Littlejohn, is that you??
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Re: Where were you when you heard the news?

Outside Nablus hiking with a Jewish-Arab group. The Arabs were convinced the Mossad killed her because she was pregnant with Dodi fayed's baby. The jews made sure they buckled up on the way home.
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Looking back for me it's clear that 31st August 1997 was the specific date that Britain changed for good. The stiff upper lip was gone, never to be seen again. The "keep calm and carry on" cohort was replaced by "me! me! me!" desperation. Diana was the catalyst, Blair the opportunist and now we have the X-Factor generation, all too willing to blub in public. Andy Murray became a national hero when he balled his eyes out on Center Court. It's the same in the face of terrorism, an attack happens and there's a mad scramble of people falling over each other to be the most poingent and distraught. Kids in 20 years will think the words "fortitude" and "stoic" are foreign, when once upon a time they defined the very essence of being British.

That stiff upper lip still exists.
A quote from Martin Hibbert, paralysed by the Manchester bomb..

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Re: Where were you when you heard the news?

3/4 way through an extended shift pattern (14 days, 12 hour shifts) where the only entertainment was radio and/or TV.

She could have waited a few days.
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Re: Where were you when you heard the news?

On the way to Cyprus with flatmates for a holiday, was flabbergasted when the cabin crew said they would make themselves available to anyone who felt 'affected' by the news.

Am another one who thinks it was (and remains) a surreal experience, akin to mass hypnosis.
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Re: Where were you when you heard the news?

I think I was working on a night shift in an indie media center, while studying and teaching during the day. It went by us, it didn't affect us that much, obviously. I thought - she was a decent person who complicated her life with wrong decisions (marrying that prince person to start with). The whole story of her death looked like a set up.
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Looking back for me it's clear that 31st August 1997 was the specific date that Britain changed for good. The stiff upper lip was gone, never to be seen again. The "keep calm and carry on" cohort was replaced by "me! me! me!" desperation. Diana was the catalyst, Blair the opportunist and now we have the X-Factor generation, all too willing to blub in public. Andy Murray became a national hero when he balled his eyes out on Center Court. It's the same in the face of terrorism, an attack happens and there's a mad scramble of people falling over each other to be the most poingent and distraught. Kids in 20 years will think the words "fortitude" and "stoic" are foreign, when once upon a time they defined the very essence of being British.
Goodness, what a contagious sample of optimism...
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Re: Where were you when you heard the news?

I was at home and turned on Radio 4, to hear James Naughtie, who wasn't usually on at that time, sounding solemn. He then mentioned "the princess". My immediate thought was that something must have happened to Princess Margaret, or perhaps Princess Anne, but it quickly became clear that it was Princess Diana.

This was on CNN last night:
Princess Diana - Chasing a Fairytale CNN Documentary (2017) (Part One)
Princess Diana - Chasing a Fairytale CNN Documentary (2017) (Part Two)

I had remembered that there was a lot of coverage that summer of her involvement with Dodi Fayed, including footage of her zooming around on a jet ski and a photo of her kissing him on his yacht. She had apparently just broken up with a Pakistani heart surgeon, about whom she had been very serious, and her former butler, Paul Burrell, said he thought her public dalliance with Dodi had been an attempt to make the doctor jealous and win him back. It was mentioned at one point that she had tipped off the media about the location of the yacht. She had then been photographed kissing Dodi and it was front page news.
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