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Old 11.10.2017, 14:51
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Re: Blade Runner 2049 (no spoilers)

I do wonder if I have just missed a huge part of the movie, seen a lot of people saying how deep it is, how many questions it asks and doesn't answer etc etc but no, I think people are so desperate for it to be a good film they are reading way more into it, the 'story' leads you by the hand and treats you like a 3 year old, its not deep, meaningful or cleaver, kinda reminds me of the hype round inception - ermm, no, it wasn't hard to understand at all, are you an idiot??

If you didn't see the plot twist in wonder woman a mile away then maybe bladerunner 2049 is for you.
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Old 12.10.2017, 09:16
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Re: Blade Runner 2049 (no spoilers)

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... it makes little sense in its current form...
(Not sure how your later comment " the 'story' leads you by the hand and treats you like a 3 year old" fits in with that). It's often the case that where the plot is not entirely straightforward, people who find it hard to follow write it off as a "bad film[".

I saw it last night with my wife. We both enjoyed it, though some of the scenes (especially the various fight scenes) were overly long in my opinion. The visuals are stunning. Really really good. It's a pretty intelligent film, with bits of proper sci-fi at places. Gosling's portrayal of his character seemed to me to fit exactly with the nature of the character. There's areas though where the plot, to my mind, is a bit clunky.

Time will tell, but my guess is it won't become a classic like part 1. It's a good film with some interesting ideas that is definitely a sequel of Bladerunner, but it's nowhere near as innovative, and doesn't really have any "all those moments will be lost in time" type moments. At least, none identified so far.

2 hours 43 minutes long.

I've decided to re-read the book.
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Re: Blade Runner 2049 (no spoilers)

OH saw it and he totally liked it.

(and the movie has very good reviews on other platforms btw)


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It's often the case that where the plot is not entirely straightforward, people who find it hard to follow write it off as a "bad film".
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I was told you should have seen the old one with Harrison Ford (rather freshly) otherwise you wouldn't understand much from the plot.
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Old 12.10.2017, 10:42
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It's often the case that where the plot is not entirely straightforward, people who find it hard to follow write it off as a "bad film
kinda insulting don't you think??

I understood the film just fine thanks, I also saw the huge plot holes, the twist etc etc a mile off It's not a hard film to follow in any sense of the word (unless you fall asleep). Once you get over the pretty scenes its just meh.

looking on the reviews on imdb in chronological order its running about 3 bad reviews to every 1 good review (the real reviews not the pre-release 10* best ever film reviews)

maybe it would grow on me if I watched it again, but at nearly 3 hours that aint gonna happen.


I REALLY wanted this to be a good film, I REALLY wanted to like it, but its not a good movie, its bad, and if it wasn't branded blade runner then people wouldn't be wearing rose tinted specs!
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Old 12.10.2017, 11:33
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kinda insulting don't you think??
Yeah. But it was meant as a gentle ribbing, so don't take it to heart.

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Rubbish (and kinda insulting don't you think??). Die hard Blade Runner fans would be the first to raise hell.

I like your use of logic though. "I don't like it, and I'm so right about it being a bad film that anyone who says otherwise is clearly deludeding themselves". Always nice to meet a true believer.
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Old 12.10.2017, 11:53
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Yeah. But it was meant as a gentle ribbing, so don't take it to heart.

Rubbish (and kinda insulting don't you think??). Die hard Blade Runner fans would be the first to raise hell.

I like your use of logic though. "I don't like it, and I'm so right about it being a bad film that anyone who says otherwise is clearly deludeding themselves". Always nice to meet a true believer.
not at all, I am doubting myself that there was something maybe super subtle I missed in the film and just didn't see that a lot of other people are seeing, but reading other peoples reviews suggests I didn't. Maybe its a ridley scott thing, after his oh so subtle meaning of life / circle of life crap in the new aliens only for him to push the same message here as well.

as replicants have learnt emotions, and now holograms have too, I'm just waiting for my romba to tell me it loves me.
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Re: Blade Runner 2049 (no spoilers)

I went to watch this last night and thought the first 2/3 of the film were excellent, but for the last 1/3 it lost some direction in my eyes and the ending was a little unsatisfying.

I don't really get the complaint from the OP about Ryan Gosling not speaking... he speaks as much as he needs to in every scene. He's not a chatterbox, but he certainly isn't a mute either.

The movie atmosphere was suitably dsytopian and the blend of old and new technology was very well done.

The movie, despite the crazy visuals, certainly had an old-skool and very surreal and occasionally disturbing vibe about it, I don't think that there's much else like it out there.

7.5/10 for me, I enjoyed it.
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