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Re: Can he say 'sure'?

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Old 17.10.2017, 13:27
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I don't care...he did make me think of this

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How is the level of your cognitive dissonance when confronted with "How are you doing?"
Actually - although not your question - I like the English "how are you doing" because it's active. As opposed to the German "wie geht es Dir" which is passive.
Meaning an English speaking person seems to know - at least back then, when the language was invented, we know from EF that is no longer so - that one is creating ones life. A German speaking person seems to think, things are done to him/her all they can do is suffer and wait for better times.
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A new user called a man, posted a post, from Paris.

Capise?

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Actually - although not your question - I like the English "how are you doing" because it's active. As opposed to the German "wie geht es Dir" which is passive.
Meaning an English speaking person seems to know - at least back then, when the language was invented, we know from EF that is no longer so - that one is creating ones life. A German speaking person seems to think, things are done to him/her all they can do is suffer and wait for better times.
Actually, how are you doing - as how are you keeping, etc., makes sense to me. But the doing without the object complement is a bit...not kosher, to my ears, or used to sound off, 20 years ago.

I understand the active agent in it in English, the French "ça va?" is as passive as German. It is weirder, in my mother tongue - "how do you have it to yourself", . Kinda how one has it in control (his life), lol.

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Old 17.10.2017, 15:45
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Re: Can he say 'sure'?

"How do you do?" is even more weird. It just doesn't translate. It means "how are you doing", but I was thought that you can't answer with "fine", but with "How do you do?" as an answer. Weird.
Perhaps it is old-school-English?
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Old 17.10.2017, 15:47
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Is that Check?

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It's just another expression for the affirmative.

Hell, I even used it myself yesterday:
MrsG: Stir fry for tea?
Me: Sure
Well, considering that you say 'tea' when you mean 'dinner', I'm not surprised.

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Old 17.10.2017, 15:55
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"How do you do?" is even more weird. It just doesn't translate. It means "how are you doing", but I was thought that you can't answer with "fine", but with "How do you do?" as an answer. Weird.
Perhaps it is old-school-English?
Very weird indeed. To me it just shows it's a superficial blabla. And they don't want to know. On the other hand, at least they're honest.

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Well, considering that you say 'tea' when you mean 'dinner', I'm not surprised.

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Old 17.10.2017, 16:04
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"How do you do?" is even more weird. It just doesn't translate. It means "how are you doing", but I was thought that you can't answer with "fine", but with "How do you do?" as an answer. Weird.
Perhaps it is old-school-English?
That's Pygmalion. But it is equally strange to have random shop assistants in the US be all chummy and act like our best friends, or academics, for that matter, when it is just a bit meaningless formality.. There are places that, on the other hand, heavy handedly ask how one is just to start citing a list of measures to make you do better than now, and one has to listen and has to thank them. Ugh. And then listen how they are doing, and try to figure out the reciprocal list of "important measures to make one do better".

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Very weird indeed. To me it just shows it's a superficial blabla. And they don't want to know. On the other hand, at least they're honest.
More elaborate the superficial blabla is, harder to learn, for new learners.

Kinda easier to do the thug handshakes I have seen lately all over. Just can't wait for the grown ups to start imitating those. I bet they'll get really creative.
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"How do you do?" is even more weird. It just doesn't translate. It means "how are you doing", but I was thought that you can't answer with "fine", but with "How do you do?" as an answer. Weird.
Perhaps it is old-school-English?
Yes, it's a bit stuffy and old fashioned, and quite formal. I wouldn't use it, preferring "Pleased to meet you" when being introduced to people in a formal setting.

For me, saying "how do you do" is what posh (and/or slightly pretentious) people say.
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Old 17.10.2017, 17:12
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Re: Can he say 'sure'?

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For me, saying "how do you do" is what posh (and/or slightly pretentious) people say.
..or might be used by native English speakers of a certain age who have been away from England for a long time, when they first greet native English speakers of a certain age whom they do not know.
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Old 17.10.2017, 18:02
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Kinda easier to do the thug handshakes I have seen lately all over. Just can't wait for the grown ups to start imitating those. I bet they'll get really creative.
Lately? LOL. Nothing new about that, I've been greeted in this style for a long time now (being an adult for even longer).
The "boys" generously tolerate that I don't get it quite right most times
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Lately? LOL. Nothing new about that, I've been greeted in this style for a long time now (being an adult for even longer).
The "boys" generously tolerate that I don't get it quite right most times
You are not alone.



Nothing new about a thug handshake, indeed, but it seems to be an epidemy now.

Here, you can practice.

https://crew.co/blog/end-awkward-handshakes/

A friend tried to teach me a weird one, a palm spread wide open, the other person as well, you are supposed to tap twice, fast. Yay,
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Could someone please confirm if he could use 'sure' here.
Sure.

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Re: Can he say 'sure'?

I'm not that bad. A third person usually can't tell I'm not doing it quite right because those who greet me this way make sure to cover up for me
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Using only the context the OP has given, I'd say it's an awkward answer. As others have pointed out, adding more words makes it more natural again.

The problem with "sure" is that many German Swiss speakers translate it from "sicher", thus producing the odd-sounding short answer.

Bist du immer noch zu Hause?
Sicher!


Fine in German but not natural in English.
Why awkard? It seems that it's not 100% clear and for this reason I dont understand your "awkard".
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Old 18.10.2017, 16:42
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Using only the context the OP has given, I'd say it's an awkward answer. As others have pointed out, adding more words makes it more natural again.

The problem with "sure" is that many German Swiss speakers translate it from "sicher", thus producing the odd-sounding short answer.

Bist du immer noch zu Hause?
Sicher!


Fine in German but not natural in English.
Funny, in German you would definitely not answer "sicher" to the question whether one still is at home.
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Yes, it's a bit stuffy and old fashioned, and quite formal. I wouldn't use it, preferring "Pleased to meet you" when being introduced to people in a formal setting.

For me, saying "how do you do" is what posh (and/or slightly pretentious) people say.
I grew up with "adoo" as the greeting (never accompanied by a handshake).

I understand that it has been superseded by "yoroit?" over the last half century, though.
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Old 18.10.2017, 17:27
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Hi,
me and my friend are in an argument over the following conversation.

Me: Are u still home?
Friend: Sure.

Is this correct in casual? Can he used the word 'sure' in this case? I believe that's wrong but he thinks that is right. Could someone please confirm if he could use 'sure' here.

Thanks.


'sure' would never be used as a response in this context.
'yeah' would be more appropriate.

'sure' (as a one word answer) is usually used like 'ja, gerne' - it implies willingness, i.e. 'with pleasure'.

just my yankie perspective.
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